Sorcerer player versus player guide

true though.. haha.. but i hate that set.. -.-

 

lol, it's not that easy to defeat SM like that. What do u thin' if an SM fear fear fear a sorcerer?

 

1. for the man who opened this topic---> you are a noob and you don't have any idea what remove shock skill is.(-Remove shock does not remove stun,knockback,stumble,etc condition from you.
-Remove shock is a skill that increase you resistence to upper alterate states numbered,imediatily after the shock.)
2.for the rest----------------------------------> all classes having all skill is a total mess...i have not time to speack about classes balance.

PS: A gladiator will never beat a sorcer at this time in 1 vs 1 duel.(who has different opinion request duel to Asmolatin.)

 

Know-How: Sorcerer PvP
Source: T3h P0w4rb00k for info, AionArmory for skill names in English

I DON'T PERSONALLY AGRE WITH SOME STUFF IN HERE, AND THE STIGMA SYSTEM IS USELESS FOR THIS SERVER.. BUT I'VE KNOWN MANY OF THESE PLAYERS.. AND THEY'RE ALMOST THE BEST SORCS.. I'VE EVER SEEN.

I KNOW IT'S AN OLD GUIDE.. BUT IT HELPS A LOT

This is a list of how-to-fight different classes for the version 1.2. There are articles for each of the classes. As of right now (June 28, 2009) there are guides for Templar, Gladiator, Sorcerer, and Cleric, others are still in process.

This guide explains how to fight against other classes using tips for General situations.

Look in the Sticky for my other guides.

PC means members of Opposing Factions (Elyos, Asmodians, Balaur)

Note, AionArmory?s Database is from 1.0 so skills from it has lower damage value than the 1.2?s actual values (Korean Powerbook values are higher)

Second, Aions Utility Damage Class, Sorcerer

Sorcerer's PvP

They possess the most diverse skill line out of all the classes in Aion.

They have many skills that shut down enemies as well as ones that deliver tremendous damage.

However, their HP is very low, and their robes provide little defense, will often get killed by attackers.

Despite this weakness, players have brought out secret abilities hidden within the Sorcerer profession, and those players have become the some of the best at PvP.

They have understood their own skills well, seen what their opponents do when confronted with these skills, and have witnessed their reactions as well. They were gracious enough to put these experiences into this manual.


Tips from Player 베베, Server Kidorun, Used to have 쭉빵그녀 as main

Most important thing to have is a complete understanding of the skills you currently possess.
Also, in air battles, use Flame Cage I - Skills - Aion often. Stacks quite often if you consider the Major Flight time scroll?s duration.
Also, don?t forget Summon Cold Air I - Skills - Aion and Grace of Protection, VERY useful.


PS: Cannot find Grace of Prot in AionArmory, (best I got, AionArmory doesn?t have and its complicated to translate) skill lvl 28 minimum 352 mana, 10 min recharge, for 5 seconds, you block all melee attacks and your Stun, Knock back, Stumble, Rotation, and Aerial Thrust resistance values increases by 1000.


PvP Sorcerer's keyboard setting

For a class that has very low HP, many times a Sorcerer?s PvP will be decided within a very short time.

To recover and counter attack requires fast reaction and decisions! For this you need a good keyboard setting and skill placement.


Tips from Player 민영공주, Server Kidorun, Lvl 50, Asmodian

Best to place skills that can be used while moving in keys Q,E,T,G whereas spells that needs casing time can be put on F1-F10 and the number keys. The DP should be placed at CTRL + 1. Consumables you should use your mouse to activate.

Its very hard to have every skill put into the number keys and F1-F10. Because while you are moving, if you want to use an instant cast skill, you need to use your mouse or put your fingers away from your Movement keys. So its best to put those instant cast into Q E T G Middle Mouse Click CAPSLOCK and Shift+.

Summon Cold Air I - Skills - Aion: Q or E, most often used skill! You need to keep moving after you cast this spell. In the abyss, when you meet a pro gosu, you have to run like hell. And when you lose direction because of it, use this spell to find where he is!
Severe Cold I - Skills - Aion: Q or E, or very close to it.
Dimension Door I - Skills - Aion: Scrollwheel mouse click (middle mouse click)
Restraint of Winter I - Skills - Aion: T or G rather than number keys! Its more comfortable that way.
DP skill: You don?t use it often? and you need to be able to use it quick? so CTRL + 1 or 2 would do.


PvP Gear Setting

Tips from Player Mebby, Server Spatalos, Lvl 50, Asmodian

Defensive Gear: To become the top notch 1% player, you must have Abyss gear with HP or Magical Resistance bonus set + Magical Boosting Power bonus set. Using a macro, when you are fighting Glads or Temps you switch to the Magical Boosting set, then when you are done back to the HP set. You should have 8k HP, 1350 Magical Resistance, 1200 Magical Accuracy, 1250 Magical Boosting Power would be good.
Godstones: Out of 1% and 2% damage stones, I think 1% is better.

Tips from Player 중독된 보이, Server 페렌토, Lvl 50, Asmodian

Defensive Gear: HP, Mboost, Concentration and even 1 more socketable gear (Abyss Gear would be good) Speed 22%+ Boots/ ASPD gloves are needed as well.
Weapons: HP, Mboost, MAcc, and/or ASPD+ books. I trust that everyone knows why Sorcs need ASPD +.
Manastones: Magical Resistance seemed best to me.
To avoid being killed by Assassins, you need to avoid their stunning ability. Magical Resistance is helpful against them. I used buffs to get my hp upto 7k, but after experimenting, Magical Resistance was better against Assassins than HP.
GodStones: I?d like to recommend 1% or 2% damage stones. Blind/silence/paralysis ones are too expensive, and compared to dual wielders you cant wait for the godstone effect to kick in. And with the exception of Paralysis, if you Blind/Silence assassins, they can just run and wait for the effect to expire, and too fast to catch them as well.


PvP Stigma

PS: Its not in the guide, I had to find one on the list of comments because this section was somehow excluded? but the comment comes from one of the commenters on most of the sections tho. Also, couldn?t find any list for Asmo.


Tips from Player 프리샤 and Mebby Lvl 50s

The absolutely needed stigmas for Elyos are
Baizel's Wisdom I - Skills - Aion
Curse: Tree I - Skills - Aion
Boon of Strengthening I - Skills - Aion (Elyos) or Boon of Quickness I - Skills - Aion (Asmodian)
Rest can be any of these, depending on your preference
Barrier of Severance I - Skills - Aion
Ice Sheet I - Skills - Aion
Volcanic Explosion (not in AionArmory, stigma version of Volcanic Eruption I - Skills - Aion, with stronger damage. AionArmory?s damage for this skill is misleading, the non-stigma version has at least 3x+ damage, and the stigma has 4x+ damage)


PvP in the Field

Many opinions stated that in ground battles, Assassin?s Ambush I - Skills - Aion was the most annoying of them all.
It has come to a point where ground battles = battle against assassins for Sorcerers.


Tips from Player 마리, Server Jikel, Lvl 50, Elyos

When you fight ground battles, the most fearful class is Assassin. Ambush + Aerial Thrust = wings folded.
Use Robe of Cold I - Skills - Aion when you are up against one. Makes running and fighting easier.
When an assassin uses Ambush on you, just bash on that Dimension Backdoor key!
Well, if it finishes before that, nothing to say? But if the door triggers, he?ll have lost target. Use your snare on him. Once this happens, most assassins will use Contract of Evasion or Focused Evasion (both skills evade magical attacks) once that happens, don?t panic! Use a cheap DOT skill, + another instant cast if he used contract, then use shutdown condition, followed by Aerial Thrust and most sins are done.
If AT fails? then use the usual technique, shutdown condition then burst damage.


PvP in the Abyss

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Sorcs disable the enemy with conditions, then puts large amount of burst firepower to kill. When flight controls are added to this class, they become something like Gunships.

But to become like a gunship, you must get a few things straight.

First is the flight speed and items that give bonuses to flight time.
Flight speed can be increased by gears that give bonus flight speed and Major Flight Speed Increase scrolls.
If you got these, then you already are a Gunship.

Sorcerer vs Templar
One of the most annoying opponents to deal with, the Templars.

Not only do they have lots of HP, they have a skill that can raise magical resistance waaay up (Armor of Interception, look in Templar PvP translation) So its not an opponent you can defeat within a short time.

Time your condition skills with the time that their Armor of Interception would end, then plan ur strategy from there.


Tips from Player Mebby, Server Spatalos, Lvl 50, Asmodian

Watch when that Armor of Interception comes down, then run down snare. The thing that makes Templars different than Glads in this aspect is that they have a skill that can release snare other than using a Greater CC Pot. Its Iron Skin and a skill that prevents anti-Flight magic (referring to Shield of Speed, look into Templar PvP thread). Snare, then use a shutdown condition, then deal damage. After this, you have go unload your instant cast skills then use a shutdown condition again, and repeat.

Tips from Player 프리샤, Server Kasaka, Lvl 50, Elyos

Use Stone Skin?s 4 min duration 2 min recharge time carefully, and Grace of Prot well. When the Templar throws a stunning strike, immediately use Greater CC Pot then get some distance while using Flame Cage I - Skills - Aion and Erosion I - Skills - Aion. You stop running when the Templar?s Armor of Interception runs out, then snare him with Restraint of Winter I - Skills - Aion or normal snare. Then turn on Baizel's Wisdom I - Skills - Aion, and unload Flame of Hell I - Skills - Aion and Volcanic Eruption I - Skills - Aion (note, actual Kor version damage is more than 4 times than this). These do a lot of damage, and if they eat it, it breaks down about half their hp. Then unload your quick and instant cast skills in any order. While they are running, if their Iron Skin has cooled off, turn on your Shock absorption scroll so you don?t get Stunning Strike?d.
For me, once I got 7k hp I could deal with a templar. Before I used to get burned? anyway, using this method I usually win 1 on 1.


Sorc vs Gladiator

You get the feeling that they are a little easier than Templars, but you should watch out for their Aerial Thrust! Just keep your distance.

As usual, use shutdown condition, then unload some burst damage onto them.


Tips from Player Mebby, Server Spatalos, Lvl 50, Asmodian

Once the opponent gets out of snare with a Greater CC pot, make him a tree. Then go upto him and hit him with WinterRestraint. Reason being, if you attack him under tree state, the Tree stigma?s enemy magical defense buff will kick in, doing less dmg. Once you?ve hit him with winter restraint, under this state he cant do much other than throw ranged chain. These attacks shoudn?t hurt unless your Stone Skin is down.
Use boon + Baizel?s Wisdom, Then use Delayed Blast I - Skills - Aion > Lava Tsunami I - Skills - Aion > Flame of Hell I - Skills - Aion > Soul Freeze I - Skills - Aion > Frost I - Skills - Aion > Summon Cold Air I - Skills - Aion. If you even unload your DP skill, it?s a damage amount impossible for Gladiators to survive.

Tips from Player 프리샤, Server Kasaka, Lvl 50, Elyos

Once you?ve used either Winter Restraint or Restraint and force him to use a CC pot, then restraint him with one of the two that you havent used, turn on Baizel?s then unload Flames of Hell and Volcanic Explosion, unless he doesn?t have Armor of Balance. If he doesn?t, turn him into a tree then put him to Aerial Thrust, and go from there.
Their Aerial Thrust is instant, so you should kill them from a distance. You can remove their Ankle Snare I - Items - Aion with Dimension Door I - Skills - Aion, but in Aerial Thrust not really. If you?ve been Ankle snared and cant DDoor, use tree/sleep/Grace of Prot/Barrier of Severance, and go from there.


Sorcerer vs Ranger

Scouts can use Hide, so to Sorcerers they are sworn enemies.

Not only that, Rangers have longer range, so many times rangers gets the first attack opportunity.

To fight rangers who can hide and fire devastating burst damage, using the Chat to your advantage will help a lot.


Tips from Player Mebby, Server Spatalos, Lvl 50, Asmodian

Using Silence, sleep, and hide ability, Rangers can pour explosive damage onto Sorcerers, leaving them wondering why they died. While you are fighting, if you receive criticals it will leave you speechless. If you don?t receive criticals and your 3 second cast skills are recharged, you can fight them fine.
But top notch 1% Rangers use sleep to interrupt the 3 second cast skills, making it mind-boggling to fight them.
If you saw him first, unload your Frost (Severe Cold if you are Asmo) and other skills of same kind. If he saw you first, don?t even look back and press that 3 second cast, or Dimension Door to make him lose target, then deal from there.


Sorcerer vs Assassin

They are called sworn enemies of Sorcerers: Assassins.

Even though Sorcerers skill line lets them defend against them, they are still very dangerous to the low HP class. If you?ve been hit with Ambush I - Skills - Aion and died in one chain, too bad. But if you see room, you must use Dimension Door, put him on shutdown condition then kill him with strong burst.


Tips from Player Mebby, Server Spatalos, Lvl 50, Asmodian

To Sorcerers they are a scary existence. They can use Throw Dagger I - Skills - Aion followed by one-kill chain. Also, the most of the top notch 1% assassins are now acquiring Paralysis Godstones. To avoid getting caught by this skill, two things you can do are raising Magical Resistance or using HP manastones. Once you?ve been stunned in air, you must get away quickly using restraints then go from there.
Use Flame Cage DOT?s to take down their evasion skills, Once they released their restraint with a Greater CC pot, if you can unload a Soul Freeze onto them, it makes the fight easier. While you are fighting during flight, get away using DOT?s and Cold summonings.


Tips from Player 중독된 보이, Server 페렌토, Lvl 50, Asmodian

Using the Chat If you look in the chat tabs theres a tab named Combat. Take that out to another place in ur UI, go into options, click on Combat ? Third, uncheck everything else, make the font colored Red, then click Change
Flight If you are in flight, they cannot use Ambush.


Sorcerer vs Cleric

Tips from Player Mebby, Server Spatalos, Lvl 50, Asmodian

Just make him a tree or silence him. If you are out of range, snare him then make the room. Once they are a tree, you do the combo. The combo that everyone knows that I listed in .vs Gladiator.


Sorcerer vs Chanter

The reason may be that its so easy for Sorcerers to kill Chanters, but there wasn't any good suggestion on how to fight this class. The little amount of suggestion was really generic.

However, to beat them, sorcs should follow the same tactics to beat Clerics.
First skill > Root (Instant cast.. and they can't move to stunlock you) , then Magma eruption + Aether Hold = they're dead.


Sorcerer vs Sorcerer

Same class. It will depend on whose shutdown conditions succeed.

Knowing your class, it will be much easier to spot weaknesses. First sighted will put shutdown first, and deal damage first!


Tips from Player Mebby, Server Spatalos, Lvl 50, Asmodian

If you are fight the same Sorc class, the side who turns the other into a tree will be advantageous. If you can Freeze then Curse Tree, then owned he will be.
If you?ve been caught with no Stone Skin available or low hp, restrain him then run. He will eat Greater CC then come after you. Once you?ve got some def and cooltimes down, fly once he comes close, then DDoor then use Soul Freeze. Or you can just suddenly stop running, use DDoor Freeze then Restraint of winter. Since he used Greater CC on Restraint earlier, he?d be unable to use magic. Then you know what to do.


Sorcerer vs Spiritmaster

Same Mage school, but one of the most annoying opponents.

Especially you must avoid the Flight disabling skill and control disruption skills they possess. Try to hit them unnoticed.


Tips from Player 쏘스, Server Asphel, Lvl 33, 4th Sorcerer character

If you think the opponent is lower lvl, less-experienced, or worse-equipped, then fight.
Freeze (Spiritmaster's first skill to avoid against Sorcs) > Treee > Restraint > Soul Freeze > Burst damage.
If you think it's a fair match or better, don?t do it. Very hard to win.


SOME SKILLS HAVE THEIR OLD NAMES. SINCE IT'S AN OLD GUIDE.
ALL CREDITS TO SoulJudge from ParadiseRO.

 

Remove shock was suppost to remove stun aether holds knockdowns and it dosent here cuz its bug :3

so that means it dosent work properly here <3

 

omg dude thanks so much

 

Remove shocke was never supose to remove alterate states,not even on retail.
Remove shock sopose to be a skill that increase your resistence right after alterate skill is gone.(on retail NO one can remove stun,stumble,aerial,etc from you except cleric's dispel skill.)

 

As a sorc, rangers and SM's are my hardest opponent... :devil:

 

Sorry, man, but you are wrong. At least read more before you post anything. Remove Shock IRemoves all Stun, Knockback, Stumble, Spin, and Aether's Hold conditions and increases Stun, Knock Back, Stumble, Spin, and Aether's Hold Resists by 1000 for 7 sec.
Chain Skill Level 1
If you dont believe what i just paste, check this: http://www.aionarmory.com/spell.aspx?id=1968
And about cleric dispell skill you are also wrong. Spin cannot be removed by dispel.

 

For sorcerer vs. sorcerer.. I don't think that whoever makes the first move wins?

I've come 1 vs 1 with different sorcs and had mostly initiated the last moves yet still win.

The only sorc that did beat me 1 vs 1 is Jellybean.

 

Too much for a retail player

 

uhhhh... lol dnt knw bout your sorcs in asmos.. but i'm sure that it's first draw wins in elyos..

 

Meh i didn't even bother to read the initial post, the reply's we're enough - You can't base a guide on Sorc vs X.
If you want a good indication on doing a ''good'' sorc guide, Is explain binding, spell jumpshotting' Spell kiting, and basic skills such as reactions

Just so you know, SM is the hardest class for a sorc' to beat, A good templar is pretty easy once you know how to handle them, In 1v1 - But that's pretty unlikely you'll find one by himself.

Glad's are a lot harder than temp's, but yet again, when you know your sorc' - they're manageable

I gotta say, i loved the '' The only sorc that beat me 1v1 is jellybean'' - I'm really happy she's good now (If anybody good say hi to herr on my behalf, i'd be grateful )

 

sadly for that sorce assassins have 2 skills to resit spells D=
another weak pont on the guide... as an assassin i dotn even need to stun the sorcerer xD

 

im sorc and i hate duels... cant win duels that much

but on other race? i just charge them head-on (with all buff CD)

i surely die but i make sure some high rank would die too

 

Or you could just pop shadowburst. I know I save mine for temps cause it makes me giggle.

 

my shadowburst is only for a high rank target no matter what class

 

Bwhaha Maybe you're better now?

 

I hate Rangers

By - SORCERERS

 

Yeah most of his "guides" are based on the Sorcerer's opponent just standing still or something like that, like they won't fight back lol.
I should make a temp guide and reveal the templar secrets xD