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The genius and the smart

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  1. Nujabes

    Nujabes Well-Known Member

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    Something I occasionally like to think about. What do you people assume the differences between a person to be known as a genius or a person to be known to be smart?

    For me I see it that a genius person's way of thinking is more genuine than a smart person, they learn from deeply observing the world and seek answers and reasons to what is around them. Whereas the smart person's way of thinking is more secondary such as school studies, commercialised/media and answered theories.

    I also feel that a genius person's intelligence has no boundaries and may be considered living confused because their understand and explanations would be difficult to explain to a ordinary person.They always seek answers throughout their lives that would appear unnecessary to be even answered or which will lead to another question.

    The smart person's intelligence on the other hand will be understood more easily because their intelligence is similar to a ordinary person but is just much more expanded than a ordinary person, but they may reach to a brick wall because they learn what is only necessary for them to sustain.

    I'd like to ask one thing too, would a smart person be more happier than a genius?
    And is it even possible to be considered a genius in this day and age?
     
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    snic Respected Member

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    thats the answer i suppose ^.^
     
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  3. Nujabes

    Nujabes Well-Known Member

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    That was very smart of you.
     
  4. Aijun

    Aijun MS 24/7 wohoo Forum Legend

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    Well, a smart person in my own perspective is someone who endeavours to succeed and thus a determined person is a smart person. Most of us are born equally and we start at the same place. It is solely up to us to direct our future.
    On the other hand, a genius, having met some during my own life time, is someone born with special/unique qualities which no other human beings possess. For example, a mathematic genius is someone who is naturally born to “know” math. I had this classmate in Senior High School, he sat beside me in my AP chemistry Class. Anyone with decent Calculus background would know that doing second derivatives sometimes requires heavy computing skills and therefore we, the normal people, rely on a calculator. However, my classmate, robin, wrote his every test paper without a calculator. What is more irritating, agonizing or even perhaps intriguing is that he used a Pen. Never had once in my life have I seen such an arrogant, supercilious, yet so “smart” person in my life. And for sure, everyone was jealous including me.
    Now he is studying bioengineering in MIT..

    Now, is a smart person happier than a genius?
    A smart person is judged by his achievements, a genius is viewed by many with contempt and scorn. Why? We, as humans, all have the innate skill to be jealous of somebody “better” than us. Therefore, the genius on one hand will often meet obstacles in daily life, on the other, the smart person will get along with others or even getting praised for his hard work.
    I don’t know what I am saying now… need to eat breakfast.
     
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    Oh, what a delightful thread! ^_^
    Back in primary (last year), people would judge me as a 'Smart Genius' Im not being up myself, but Im telling the truth.
    What i type here are all from experiences ive had being the 'smart' one in primary
    I find that not all Smart people and not all Geniuses are happy. Mostly depending on their personality.
    If a Smart one chooses to be 'happy' he/she will be considered/judged Outgoing or a Teachers Pet.
    A Genius will be happy whenever he/she wants to, but will be considered a freak/weird, because of their great level of Intelligence turning into a great level of Ecstatic moments = ohkayy, wtf is with this person o_O"

    A Genius is a legend. A Smart one is just a Substitute.
    Funny how everybody stereotypes the Smart and Geniuses, geeks and nerds. I call it 'Not-being-a-Lazy-Ass-and-getting-good-grades-so-i-dont-frikkin-piss-my-parents-off.'

    I agree with you, Geniuses have a wise way of explaining theories and explanations. Though their explanation is more complicated and more advanced, they have a spectacular way of thinking.
    Smarties on the other hand, tend to simplify their explanations. And are more 'active' and 'Outgoing'. The majority of smart people like to cooperate and contribute more than the 'geniuses' do. Geniuses are rather independant and more serious, or i could be Stereotyping them. Truth is, Smart people are more of a showoff then Geniuses. Geniuses have already been through all that 'smart' stuff so they dont give a damn. I think a good example is: A young adolescent going through puberty growing into an Adult. ^^ ~

    A genius can be anyone: Albert Einstein, Thomas Edison, a really stupid and idiotic assface ..
    ^ Thats what people who have not yet met them irl think of them. A genius is someone who you believe is 'the one'. Whether your idol or inspiration, Stereotyping some random or a Known 'Genius'.

    Smart people who think other smart people are smart must have a reason why they think they are smart in order to think of themselves as smart
    My opinion is: it doesnt really matter if youre a genius or a smartie, its how people judge you that matters.

    It might not make sense but hey, its 2 in the morning! =="
    I could of written craploads more but eh, Exaggeration might take place xD
     
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    Too many paragraph writers.. >_>
     
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    You loovvee it fagface ^_^ ~
     
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    Technically a Genius doesn't mean someone who is able to perform and know everything he likes to. A genius exist in different form:

    1. Cognitive part
    - A child/person is considered a genius if he possesses an extraordinary quantity of information and unusual retentiveness ; advance comprehension at an early age.
    2. Affective part
    -A child/person is considered a genius if he possesses a keen sense of humor; Idealism and a sense of justice that appears at an early age.
    3. Physical Domain
    -Those who excel in sports naturally
    4. Intuitive
    -Possesses creativity in all areas
    etc. etc.

    A smart person on the other hand is someone that is eager to learn and have the dedication to learn something new.
     
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    Nujabes Well-Known Member

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    Interesting comments, keep it coming people.
     
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    So any comment on mine?
     
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    Nujabes Well-Known Member

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    That was the comment I found very interesting to read actually. Hope to see more as in-depth.
     
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    Intelligence is in all different types of forms. There are those who are good at subjects, but lack common sense. There are those who are very intelligible, but could care less about subjects. I've met "geniuses" who are particularly skilled in certain subjects, but are lacking information for other skills. I myself lack mathmatical skills, but am rather gifted in creativity and languistics. A true genius to me is someone who is well-rounded, including street smarts - common sense - etc.
     
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    I get straight A's in all weighted courses (6.0 on a 5.0 weighted scale for GPA this semester), got a 36 on my ACT, and highest SAT was 2300. yet people tend to call me stupid. I think that is what you're referring to.... D:
     
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    No offense Ryan, but at times you do lack common sense <3
     
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    It's as you say, a smart person is just that. They're a common simple type of smart, not quite a bad thing, but they're understood more easily. A genius a lot of times, can be considered a psycho, or a crazy type of person at the same time, because the things they do might seem weird for the 'average' person. Sometimes, natural born talent people consider 'genius', which they're using the word in a way to show vast or complete knowledge of said thing, such as a 'musical genius'.

    In our day and age, kids born with these talents are the first to be considered a type of genius, instead of those who study for years. Those kind of people are just considered 'smart' or 'dedicated' to there field of interest.


    Also, +rep for thought provoking thread and your sig is funny to me lol.
     
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    Go die. It was meant to be sarcastic in which you were supposed to respond, "my post didn't include you"
     
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    Imo, it shouldn't matter how other people judge you. It's how you judge yourself. :p
     
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    Someone that is smart is someone that is well rounded, someone that has a great deal of natural understanding about things (or common sense), and learns easily. They also usually have have great communication skills, and can usually teach whatever they know. In general, they're just very knowledgeable all around.

    A genius however, can also be considered dumb, to be honest. Geniuses know above and beyond what any ordinary person would know. They can explain amazing things you've never even heard of, solve things only machines could solve, and do all of this fast as it just comes to their mind instantly. The thing that makes a genius "dumb", is that they commonly know so much above the common level of knowledge that they lose the ability to articulate that with others, they lose sight of the common grounds and common sense, everything is equations for them and their communication skills almost always lack in every way. They can give the world great things, but their immense knowledge is just as much a fallacy in making them dumb to normal society as it is a gift.

    At least thats my perspective on the matter. I also think a lot of people misuse the word frequently, but thats a lot harder to explain and I probably couldn't find the right words for it if I tried.
     
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    geniuses dont need to study, their understanding of facts/concepts is grasped easily, while smart people are just ordinary people who study their butts off.
     
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    Very nice concepts there people. ;D

    XD thank you. I don't know who's doing that, did it 4 times and the exact words that came in my head are the same words I used in the sig, lol.
     
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