Poll: Remove Crafting Restrictions?

crafting is actually the easiest thing on here,
and i can say that since i have

every craft maxed . :>

next thing we know, there will be threads to make crafting proc rates 100 percent.

 

Well to that I say, the person who did it before still has to log around characters, while the newer ones will get to do it all on just the one character. Just a minor inconvenience, yes, but still quite the nuisance when things have to be ran to the account warehouse.

Ash is getting at, it's more of a challenge to have to level up multiple characters to explore the world of crafting. The more pain you go through to craft that item, the more accomplished you feel when your finally rewarded with what you were after.. it's a game afterall, shouldn't you feel rewarded for doing some things instead of gamesharking it?

 

If people get bored so quickly on Gamez, then keep the crafting how it is is for the best. They will need to make a new character if they want a new master in another profession. By removing the caps - it would make it too easy.

I dont understand how they get bored anyways Ciuf. I've been playing Aion for a over a year now and I never get bored - even on the high rates servers I've played. I can always find something to do in game.

 

i dont understand.. u said this will made the game too easy..? .. there's no Big difference to remove restrictions in crafting or level atleast level 35 or 40 char just to make another master skills coz leveling even at level 55 is so easy.. what i mean is.. it doesn't make sense at all if we will make another char just to master another crafting skills,why dont we put all master skills in 1 character..? if we talk about "chalenge" in this game well.. it already is... Gathering essence,aether,crafting etc etc.. is already a chalenged for us..

 

to ur first point, u can still level the crafting on 1 char and make ur own life easier if u choose to. u just agreed that it is just an inconvenient annoyance and u dont wanna have to do it urself. dunno, just feels like the "if i cant do it, nobody can" approach

to ur 2nd point, u "explore the world of crafting" in the exact same way on 1 char as ud do if ur forced to relog. u still go through the exact same process. as to "accomplishments", most people here r here to pvp, not to craft. they just buy things (mats or the finished product) and craft afk from the material merchant supplies they bought up. just stating the reality

 

Well if i define staying afk in Pande as something to do then yes it's not boring.

 

i never knew buying materials and afking till they are made was a challenge.

 

lol a lot of the people as u accurately stated keep the damn thing at the minimum level (right after ascension or just port urself by a traded scroll as lvl 1) and keep the char in the crafting hall. theres no "exploring", there is no "factor that keeps them interested in gamez" there. even people who said no agreed its just annoying to need to relog to craft. there is nothing that makes them enjoy doing it

 

good job contradicting urself. just shows how crafting makes people "interested" in this server. buy up mats and afk craft, VERY interesting

 

So it's fair that if they implement it, the person who had leveled the craft before on multiple characters, if they want to take advantage of it, should have to level all over again? Not to say crafting is really time consuming, but neither is making another character to 20. You don't even need 55 to start crafting, take advantage of the boosted exp rates and level your craft while your still low level, to well... level. It's not a if I can't do it approach, just more logical to the way Gamez is going more retail to 'how it should be'

Also, your correct. It's the same thing regardless of your character, and people do feel accomplished when they get their high level craft made for themselves, even if it's just a personal sense of accomplishment. So yea, most people aren't here to craft. That doesn't mean people should get any handicaps because of it. There is more to Aion than PvP afterall.

 

find my post where i said crafting keeps people interested in the server.

 

as long as u keep high rates, it will never be like retail and "how it should be" and no the rates will never be dropped. neither will we ever have a working economy like retail does so yeah good luck with the "how it should be", id rather face reality

yes there is more to aion than pvp, i didnt say remove crafting altogether. they can still craft just the same. people feel accomplished by getting the level and design to be able to make something, not because they had to make 4 bloody chars and relog a couple of dozen times to do it.

 

sorry got ur name mixed up. adieu, ally, ashtar, everybody starting with A and Against it (well at least u dont think itll make a difference)

 

The rates will never be dropped correct, but I'm sure people also said stigmas would never be implemented and look where we're at now. If you were to go with 'reality' then Gamez should add custom mods in, just as 'nifty skins' or whatever, things that would balance the economy out if you put a price on said nifty things to be extremely high. They wouldn't do that though, it's best if Gamez stay away from to many modifications like that, to keep NCSoft from breathing down their necks any harder. Freefly itself is already pushing it.

 

look at how much freefly we had, look at how much we have now, cant exactly call it freefly anymore

people said we wont have stigmas coz as far as i can see, the majority of players said no and so did the majority of gms. the fact that they decided to do whatever they like is their problem.

u cant compare the rates to stigmas since stigmas affect everybody while rates screw over only newcomers. besides, if u took away high rates, guess where everybody would go, infinite. no lagg, no buggs, no crashes, updates tested properly unlike here. ud take away the last thing that makes this server unique

in any case, removing a cap is hardly a "major modification". they were fine with autolearn stigmas which was a much more drastic change and nobody complained bout that. the choice to change that lies with evilset (or carl), not with ncsoft

 

I'm just getting at legalities with NCSoft, gamez is 'emulating' Aion with it's own custom rates, anything else (even having a userCP) is a bad thing. But Carl knows how to deal with most of it and chooses his words wisely so it's all fine and dandy ;p

Now, I never said they would lower rates, just using it as a comparison. Also stigmas effect newcomers just as much because they lose out on those skills now while leveling ;o

Finally, it's not a major modification, really it's just a slight change of code tbh, wouldn't take but a moment or two of time to put really. Like I said before I personally don't care either way.. just playing devils advocate.

 

the point being that ncsoft never complained bout having all stigmas, why should they complain bout having all crafting skills (which doesnt even affect the gameplay unlike stigmas)

i just said its not comparable. also never said that newcomers dont get affected by stigmas, what i did say was that stigmas affect newcomers as well as old players while low rates would only affect new comers (lvl 55 geared chars couldnt care less)

id need a valid reason to change my mind, so far i dont have 1

 

i vote yes!!!!XD

Its not bad to master all things^_^v



But i guess that day would never come.........

 

*points to the title of the thread* kinda the purpose here. they SHOULD do it if most people agree, but yeah knowing them, doubt itll change anything. we will see

EDIT: lol? wtf did crimson just get banned for?

 

Well good luck in your quest then, but you should know how it'll end regardless. Also yes NCSoft does care, they just need more to work with before they step forward and try to take Gamez down, I'd suggest not giving them more.