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[Guide] Gladiator

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  1. Lakhane

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    Gladiators

    Gladiators are one of the most creative classes in the game, not only do they have the ability to wield a spear, sword, dagger, and greatsword, but also the bow, mace, and shield. Gladiators come in handy, they are able to tank when needed to, they have huge burst damages when wielding the spear, and are able to use AoEs (Area of Effect). Gladiators are much-like templars but do not have the same kind of healing skills as templars, though gladiators do get some healing stigmas/skills.

    Gladiators rely on knockdown and for them to be in close-combat with a person, but when it comes down to chasing a person that likes to run away, they can pull out their bow and shoot.

    Spear - Mainly used for pvp (burst)

    Mace (Dual Wield) - Although damage godstones do not work, a mace with magic boost (dual wield) and adding a 1880 damage godstone will tremendously help when it comes to DPS in PvE.

    Dagger & Sword - Since damage godstones do not work, swords are the best two-handed weapons for pve. (Since this server stacks attack and attack speed with dagger & sword, best for this combo instead of sword sword). Best in PvE.

    Bow - Best for chasing someone when it comes to PvP.

    Shield - Gladiators rarely use shields, but is good when you need to tank and mitigate damage, mostly used (if use) in PvE.

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    Side Note --

    When this server fixes their accuracy & block rate, you should buy a new spear and armor pieces with accuracy socketed in them so that you hit at least 2100 accuracy. Only reason why accuracy becomes important is because it bypasses a templar's block, making it INCREDIBLY easier killing them and harder for them to kill you.
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    [Manastone]

    [Attack + Crit]
    Socket crit until you hit the soft cap, or get a number near the soft cap (can always use scrolls\food). Then go full attack.

    [Full Attack]
    Since you can hit up to 140 crit with food and scrolls, you can go full attack and just keep that 14% crit chance. Highly do not recommend this.

    [Attack + Crit + Accuracy]
    Socket accuracy until you hit 2100 (remember this is a seperate set only for pvping against a templar), have your other pieces help your crit hit or get near the soft cap then stack full attack.

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    [Stigmas]

    *Gladiators have a wide variety of stigmas for different occasions.

    Severe Precision Cut Build - Highy do NOT recommend this build for air PvP as it is a PvE build. Severe precision cut and precision cut's casting is glitched and hopefully gets fixed. If a target is farther than 7m away, it shouldn't hit them. This is a rather 'ok' build for ground pvp though. But if you want it for ground pvp, replace draining blow with Ankle Snare.


    [Normal Stigmas]

    • Crippling Cut
    • Severe Weakening Blow
    • Unwavering Devotion / Advanced Dual Wielding
    • Draining Blow / Ankle Snare
    • Lockdown

    [Advanced Stigmas]

    • Precision Cut
    • Berserking
    • Severe Precision Cut


    Korean Hybrid Build - Recommend for PvP

    [Normal Stigmas]

    • Ankle Snare
    • Improved Stamina
    • Unwavering Devotion
    • Advanced Dual-Wielding


    [Advanced Stigmas]
    • Sharp Strike
    • Slaughter
    • Berserking


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    (I really need to update and put a little bit more effort into this guide, sorry if it isn't that great)
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    [Gladiators]
    Against gladiators, it's all about who gets the most knockdowns and burst. I recommend starting off at a long range and use cleave and it's chain skills. Do your best to keep yourself from getting picked off and get your knockdowns straight and try to chain your knockdowns.

    [Templars]
    Templars shouldn't be that hard if they are using a greatsword, if they are, it's best to use your attack set instead of your accuracy set. Use accuracy if they're wielding a shield. Templars have effective healing skills, so be ready to chain kb them (won't work if they have unwavering) when you think they're going to cast it (best to think that they're going to pop it when they're 50%). If they pop iron skin, ankle snare them, get away, don't bother attacking them as your attacks will get reduced by 50%.

    [Sorcerers]
    Sorcerers are one of the most hardest classes to kill as a gladiator due to the fact that you will get slept, slowed, and kited. My best advice to you is to unwavering devotion to avoid stuns, knockbacks, and aether hold and pot yourself or skill yourself out of slows. Use your ankle snare on them, as it is a magic-based attack, illusion should NOT affect this skill.

    [Spiritmasters]
    Spiritmasters are also one of the most hardest classes to kill as a gladiator as you will get chain-feared and dotted to death. Just as I told you about sorcerers, use unwavering devotion to resist any stuns, knockbacks as possible. Also do your best to pot yourself out of those dots and slows.

    [Ranger]
    Since rangers will not have as much burst-fire as they did in the previous patch, they will not be able to kill you that easily from now on. Though, do note that they can resist ankle snare if they have focused evasion up. Keep unwavering devotion up as you do not want to get stunned. Do your best to keep that ranger as close as possible to you. Rangers are squishy and so you should have no problem killing them. Do they sleep you and sandstorm trap? Pot out of it. If rangers go into hide 1, trace them as they're not completely hidden for a few seconds and click on yourself and spam those aoes.

    [Assassin]
    Assassins have trouble killing gladiators as they have unwavering devotion. Make sure to keep unwavering devotion up so that they can't ariel lock or stun lock you to death. Also, keep in mind that they have blinding burst, pot out of it as quickly as you can. Also, they have advanced hide, but for gladiators, nothing different as to rangers as seeds of detection are not confirmed to be working yet. So just aoe where you think they will be and you should knock them out of hide. They have a total of 5 magic resist skills so ankle snare will probably not work on them unless they don't pop it. Be careful when timing your ankle snare.

    [Clerics]
    Clerics are not very easy to kill as they have a short-cooldown on root and they can heal themselves as well as dot, range stun, and summon noble energys on you. Ankle snare will be hard to pull of as clerics can easily dispel it. Keep in mind that you need to keep yourself as close as to the cleric and stun lock them as fast as possible. Unwavering devotion isn't a must, but it helps against that one range stun that they have.

    [Chanters]
    Chanters are also a stun-lock class just like sins, and they have healing abilities. They, in fact, do not have dispel so you will be to easily ankle snare them. Keep unwavering devotion up as you do not want to get caught in a chanter's stun lock. Do your best keeping the chanter knocked down and you shouldn't have problems killing the chanter.
     
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  2. cutetanks

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    how about hp stones o_O which me and love use?....
     
  3. Lakhane

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    HP stones are not recommended once the stigma system comes out due to the fact that gladiators already have enough HP and they need their crit, accuracy, and attack as high as possible. Since gladiators mitigate damage a little less than templars, your health shouldn't be a problem.
     
  4. Patar

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    Not lookin' forward to this 1.9 update...I'm horrible with having multiple sets of gear and individual builds >_>;

    but this guide will come in handy, man. THANKS!!!!
     
  5. Daisuko

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    Sir, no offense, but you don't know gladiators.

    Chanters are fairly easy to defeat. Barely above assassins. Anything is honestly fair game for chanters. Use a bow at range, use a shield set and reduce their damage to virtually nothing, or simply DPS them to death with a 2h weapon.
     
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    so whats the best mana socket for glad,HP or atack=?
     
  7. Daisuko

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    Crit + HP or Crit + M.resist.


    Crit + M.resist is best, but harder to obtain.
     
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    What happens when they add glacial shard? Attack gets added ON TOP of your normal damage. So you will only be doing 150-200 damage more each skill while you could get over 2k hp (without buffs). Retail did not have players fully geared like this server does. HP seems like a better choice tbh.
     
  9. Daisuko

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    You're right, I parry spells all the time <3

    Also, good luck with that. 25m casting range, you need to get across 22m in under 1.5 seconds and you WILL at least be under the effects of slow or root. Heck, you might even just be slept or tree'd and then hit with it the instant you're out.
     
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    Thread stickied, very useful.
     
  11. Sheytane

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    I don't get it, since when can glads parry spells?

    As you can't rangedance here, if the sorc starts casing Light/shadowburst on a glad, he's 100% dead.

    When they add Glacial Shard, which means 2.0 skills will be available, gladiators will have an additional skill that increases their hp by 30% or 50%..
    HP stones might be a good choice tbh.



    If you have 24 manastones slots, and socket em all with +85 hp, it will result with a +2040HP, which will save you from a hit or a hit and a half? :p
    HP stones won't help here since everyone is insane equipped and do insane amount of damage :p


    lolwut?
     
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  12. Daisuko

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    Well, he's only 100% dead if he's not stacking HP or magic resist. then he's only 40~90% chance to be dead.

    Also, your own logic works against you. :p With all the "insane damage" everyone does, why would you bother gaining an additional 120 damage per hit, when you could have an 2040 additional hp?


    However....

    QFT.
     
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    Sheytane Well-Known Member

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    120 damage per hit, I assume you're talking about stacking +att stones?
    Emm good question, I don't see any of them really helpful.. so the heck I just go with attack x)
    A glad with HP.. idk, would look just wrong imo.. but might work :D

    And as Magic Resist doesn't work? lolwut my cleric is full mres and barely resists anything :p

    And no, HP won't save you, at 1.9 or 2.0 or whenever the Light/Shadowburst II comes.. gg surviving a 17k dmg spell
     
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    Was fixed on crystal i think. I have noticed I resist a lot more stuff. And most of the good glads do stack hp if you have yet to notice. I am sorry but you hung out with that idiot cirduh for a bit too long I feel :wink:
     
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    magic resist works, but not quite as well as it SHOULD.

    I had 50 spells cast on me with 21% resist chance and only 17% of them resisted.

    Resist works as intended, I just probably have bad luck :p It works, in the very least.

    And also, on a cleric with the best gear you could get you'd have over 2000 magic resist, stacking magic resist. Which would obviously resist a lot of spells.
     
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    hold on lemme log on my cleric and see how much I have

    ELUL, the mres status isn't ever there QQ
    if you have a sorc/sm or whatever we could try on Gamez if it works,
    Full anuhart, tahabata warhammer & shield, everything mres +12

    Well, just don't take yourself as an example of a good HP stacking glad, since you're horrible.. no offence ;d

    I'm a glad on retail, I know exactly what I'm talking about >:]
    and no, I don't give a crap about with Cirdnoob says
     
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    Hence why I said that AP Armor > all.

    even just 30 AP golds stacking HP... you'd have over 13k hp.

    17k x 84% (full 30 AP gear) = 14,280 damage. That's assuming it hits for 17k, which would surprise me.

    with improved stamina and chanter buffs you should have ~16k hp.

    You PROBABLY wouldn't survive it, but that's if it does hit for 17k.

    ---------- Post added at 06:02 AM ---------- Previous post was at 06:01 AM ----------

    That doesn't include your acc's :p

    I'm just going to go out on a limb here and assume you have full DP acc's, including the dragon flame chain helm.

    that would give you 1,670 magic resist if you have all 30 slots +12 m.resist

    each 10 magic resist you have higher than your opponent's acc would give you +1% resist, and most players have 1400+ magic acc.

    You likely have 25% magic resist chance against the average player, but you might only see ~19% resist chance if it's actually bugged.
     
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    glad vs. sorc
    even you dont get 1-hitt'd w/ that sort of 17k damage..or saying that you'll survive on the 1st attck; w/ 1k-3khp remaining.you're just good as dead.
    stacking hp manastones,on 1.9-2.0 stigma working,it doesn't make a diff if you're up against a sorc.

    for hp users,on glad - its sooo lame.i dont even know if you can reach the soft cap for crits,low dps average def.using hp may give you a 5%to survive,however,lowers you chances to kill another player.thus,giving him enough chance to put you down..w/c also would take back your 5% chance,and making it back to 0% additional chance for hp users ( glad ).w/ nuke items available on this server ( not like retail,w/c you guys kept bubbling around ) if you're not a templar or a cleric or sm ot sorcs ( optional ) and stacks all of your socket w/ hp.go back to retail..stop QQ'ng and think like Mr. know it all. retail and this server has two diff configuration.ever wonder why you quit/stop playing on retail ? and happen to be landing on private server/s ? left behind ?=.=

    there are ppl i know of who plays here..and still playing retail for some time,bt for some other reason -
     
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    Give suggestions as to what to edit and I'll consider it.
     
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    i didn't agree on the 1st ( pulls out a bow for range enemy ~_~" ),im gladiator,but NEVER would i do that.not for pvp or pve - i wont sore my eye reading the nxt things in line,when at 1st u'd already made me say no no...glad on bow @_@
     

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