1.9-2.0 Stigmas System is needed?

using phone so this is short. i agree the advanced skills would ruin pvp and i think something should be changed. but i do not think ppl with current skills should have those wiped nor would i support an account wipe to fix the issue. all in all, in 1.9 stigma skills for toons w/o them should be gotten normally and normal skills should be autolearned.

 

you will see hpw every char like scouts will cry because mages and glads will be super mega OP

 

gah...

-sigh-

Look, scouts are SCOUTS. What i mean is they can hide. Even a ranger can outlast the wintry armor. This means that the rangers can silence and rain arrows, AND the sins can stunlock before the sorc can do anything. Same goes for the SMs.

As for glads, sins can hide out the duration of UD. this means that a sin can proceed to stunlock the glad until he's dead. As for rangers, it will be harder to kite glads but not impossible to beat.

Classes... NONE of them are "super mega OP." Of course, providing that the person playing the disadvantaged class has some degree of skill and creativity. The sole purpose of being a scout is to be more creative, since they are not especially offensively strong... or defensively.

 

Now this man I must agree with. Great supporting evidence which definately got me to agree.

 

Remove shock stun goes bye bye sin is dead

 

With some classes having so many bugged stigma skills, it is unfair for certain classes with almost all working skills to have all the advanced stigmas at their disposal. Having to choose a stigma tree path would enable a more balanced PvP, and that players would actually learn their classes better.

I play an sm on this server and the pet tree stigma skills and other skills are so totally bugged and useless against players (even fear is semi bugged). That being said, I've been PvPing with only one stigma tree branch that mostly works (the PvP branch) and still manage to kill most of the players that i come across.

With the autolearn of 2.0 stigma skills, certain classes with working stigma skills that are already OP will be more OP. And classes with already bugged skills will have even more bugged skills (e.g. I would imagine that a SM's pet sleep stigma skill would be bugged since all of the pet skills against players are bugged) and not to mention having to deal with classes that have mostly working skills.

 

Lol nothing you said there indicates that you understand the skills of 1.9/2.0 and how those classes are played.

Wintry armor only effects those within like 5m or something close, so melee like temp, glad, sin, and chanter.

Stunlocks don't exist in 1.9 due to Remove Shock.

Sins can't just "go straight into hide" after a glad or temp pops UD. UD will be up for 90% of every battle, but that's not why glads will be ridiculous.

Rangers can't kite anyone almost, mostly due to the fact that slows don't actually work in the air on Gamez atm.

Classes, some of them WILL be SUPER MEGA OP, but you can't understand that because you need to understand the class and their advanced stigmas of 2.0 [L55] first, which you clearly don't.

 

just 2 reasons:
1/ having all the advance stigma skills available is AGAINST how the game designed. it was NOT suppose to work that way and WONT ever be.
2/ every pvp that last 2-5 second is RIDICULOUS.

 

Let me set you straight, knowitall

Now first off the guy was talking about SCOUTS and idk where u got this but chanters nor temps are scouts (maybe YOU need to check what i replied to)

Wintry armor I "if the enemy is within a 5m radius and attacks you, you reflect 1000 damage back for 30s" SINS AND RANGERS CAN OUTHIDE A 30S BUFF. AND if the sorc doesnt use wintry right away he's screwed anyway, because he gets no other chances. Also i dont think you're ever looked at remove shock, or EVEN thought about this, so again lemme show you.

remove shock "removes all stun, stumble, KD, aether's hold, spin and increases all the defenses by 1k for 7s"

okay this is not an end all be all skill, sorry to tell you, because any stun (and probably other disables) moves will STILL cancel casts so please, dont try to call me ignorant before you check it for yourself. OH BOY WHATS THAT ITS CALLED STIGMA SILENCE I, AND GUESS WHAT ITS A 30S SILENCE FOR SINS, which you CANT remove with remove shock

And, you clearly have NEVER EVER EVER EVER met a good kiter, so go talk to Reavo and tell him to show you how to properly kite, and you'll see that a ranger need not slow to kite. Please, talk to him because he took 9k of my hp before i had a chance to do shit. Talk to Oplayistic and tell him that he wont be able to beat a sorc after 1.9, and he'll laugh at you and call you stupid. If I clearly have not read the stig system, them you OBVIOUSLY haven't met any good pvp fighters.

Now, Mr. 1.9 Stigma master, TELL ME where i have gone wrong, because it seems like I shut down your argument airtight. Now go double check your stigma planner, or perhaps learn the names of skilled scouts in aion and talk to them.

And please the next reply to my argument, make your case stronger than that flimsy half assed excuse to prove me wrong, and MAYBE, just MAYBE i wont be able to make you look like an idiot

 

I lol'd.

Let me break this down for you.

If a sorc uses wintry armor when a sin is just in the vicinity he is beyond noob.

If a sin tries to run from a sorc, good luck.

Kiting in Gamez is not kiting at all. It's running and shooting, with no slows working in the air. l2play a not bugged aion.

You say it's not an end-all be-all skill, yet you hardly understand the implications of it. Why don't you spend a little time getting past *omg too grindy* lv 25 in actual Aion before you try talking about a skill you clearly know nothing about.

Sure, he will be able to beat a sorc in 1.9 due to broken game mechanics, every 1 minute 30 seconds. Great. What happens when they get fixed?

I rofl so hard at how you "shut down my argument airtight" by using bugs as excuses for why these things will happen.

Also, if a ranger has to kite in 1.9 with L55 stigmas, he's doin it wrong.

Seriously. Your whole argument is based on the fallacy that these bugs will never get fixed. It's ridiculous.

 

My argument is based on how the game mechanics work NOW. Simply because 1.9 is coming, does not mean the skills which haven't been working properly will be fixed, let alone the game mechanics. I'm not going to take the time to explain it to you, again, since we're getting way offtopic. Also I dont give a flying crap about the retail aion, thats why I'm here, and I base my argument on how things work HERE, NOT retail aion

 

You're right, but if you expect things to be as you say, then you are saying that it would only be good to keep lv55 stigmas if all the bugs stay, which is a ridiculous claim.

Seriously, your argument is asking gamez to not move forward and instead balance the game around bugs.

No.

 

Just wait for Greater Healing Potions to be fixed then ill show rangers who is OP

 

Yea seriously. Even now the game has to much freaking dps flying around. Its insane how fast people die. PvP is all twitch and not much about combos. This will only further be enhanced if every stigma is allowed come level 55.

 

Rangers have like 2 skills that can be potted out of.. slow and root, slow doesn't even work with flight, only with ground pvp. Greater Healing Potions would do nothing to hinder rangers at all.

 

wait till insigs are gone or fixed

^^^ someone already said that, just repeating it lol

 

wait 'till im done w/ these freaking studies,ill kill yah all xD rawr !

 

Quoted for truth.

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I believe auto learn should be aloud but only for class skills and no stigmas of any sort. I have seen many other private servers use this function for that purpose alone. This is the first i have come across that pretty much allows every class to have every stigma which is quite mind boggling to figure out the capabilities of each individual class.

 

You are kidding me right?....MAybe silence arrow? omg wtf? -.-

 

+1. Fuck that arrow in the ass.