Violating Privacy or Good Idea??? You Tell Me.

Im one of those people who will observe a person in a bar or walking the mall etc... before deciding if i should approach them and say "hi" or if they say hi to me, i can choose to say "hi" back or ignore them. Im a very observant person. Its a good thing i am cause if i wasnt then my husband would get use lost and not know where to go half the time. He's not a observant person.

@Cakebaker - Word stealer lol.. gees.. I was gonna say something along those line but you beat me to it.

 

1. dont have facebook yay me, at least some privacy
2. thats retarded since having ur login = can post as u and pretty much ruin ur life
3. why do they wanna see ur pictures? some of them can be very personal >.> be a good friend and give them a link to a porn site
4. MAYBE let them do it during ur interview or only with u present (so they dont get ur login permanently, or change ur pass to let them see and then change it to something else)
5. creates a whole lot of paranoia for other people since somebody else besides ur friend can be watching ur pics together or private messages
6. people will start to be very careful bout what they say or what info they choose to add to their profiles
7. expect the facebook account number to rise dramatically as people create their REAL profile (a name that cant be identified with u) and a profile for the company to see

in any case this is just retarded, can go watch ur privacy go out the window

note: dont use the same password for all ur accounts, giving them ur facebook one gives them access to virtually all ur accounts anywhere

 

I think one thing is to be observant and the other is to deny opportunities just because "the salt on the food"??? Thats plain retarded.
You have the right to be as you like, as long you are inside the borderlines that define aceptable patterns of conduct in society.
By the same token, if you gonna ask for personal information like accounts or anything, it must be with the consent of the person whos info is being asked... Otherwise, sorry I demand you and put you in jail.

 

No. It's called privacy for a reason.

 

yah the only thing remains thy will ask for ur key so thy can go and check ur porn stack what type xD

what ever and when ever this is not acceptable at all and who is asking for this is sick person

 

Lol yeah, I all my passwords are 1. Hotmail, hentaikey, gamez, mu, crystal, gamez.

 

Too bad he was probably one of the most successful businessmen in history. Just because you don't understand the shrewd and ruthless ideas doesn't mean you can call them retarded. Business is a dog eat dog world. You have to be smart and cunning to succeed. You have no idea how much a business can actually learn about you, I do think needing FB accounts and PW might be over the top, but that line of thought is not wrong. The government probably knows every internet site you've ever used, you're favorite people to call, etc.

Watch Enemy of the State, its an old movie. Back then, everything was accurate, its SO much worse now.

Also, you can get fired for anything these days EXCEPT for racial or sexual reasons. Some guy in Chicago got fired from a car dealership for wearing a Green Bay Packers tie AFTER the NFC game. And he said it was because his grandma had recently passed away and was a huge Packers fan. Like I said, businesses are a machine, and no matter what you say, you can't clog capitalism. You either join the flow or not, but from their perspective, it makes perfect sense to understand who an employee REALLY IS.

 

AAA i see... that justifies it. And I assume you say that in your vast experience in the work force... right? how many people you have to fire until now?? how many people have you hired?? how many people people you had under your own supervision??

Work and business IS a machine, but abuse of your laboral rights are issues punished by the law. I wont deny that maybe in high very high levels of money and high responsability jobs, it might happen that privacy line get blurs due to corporation issues.

But everything else is crap.

 

Laboral rights? Union membership is declining at increasing levels. I'm sure for some factory job it doesn't matter, but when you are giving someone a job that includes working with others, a management position, or a position where wise ethical decisions are needed, learning who a person is much smarter than hiring someone with a decent curriculum vitae without any idea. It doesn't really matter though, facebook passwords aren't needed.

Look at how colleges look through applications. More and more, colleges are viewing students' facebook pages. Underage drinking, drugs, etc., can get you screwed over. Specific recruiting types, like for D1 sports, makes colleges work even harder to figure out who a prospect really is. If you like it or not, its how the world works now. Its not depriving anyone of a natural right, privacy is some made up figment of your imagination. You have no privacy. Businesses are just using their resources wisely.

 

It's one thing for them to look you up if you don't set your privacy settings, but if they ask for my password so they can actually log in as me, then I'll literally tell them to F*** off. I don't care if it's my dream job or not, if they're that paranoid and suspicious then I wouldn't want to work for those companies in the first place. Also they should worry about whether or not a potential employee can do the job well, not what they do in their free time.

 

It's not about paranoia. It's about quality, professionalism, respect and dependability. ( Just woke up but not sure if those are the words I am thinking of :S) If I was a business owner of a company or boss of a law enforcement job, I wouldn't want to hire some schmuck who is gonna take his job as joke. They want to make sure they are hiring someone worth the money. No one wants to spend money on a someone who can potentially be a lost cause. Especially in this day in age where money is a precious thing to have not everyone has the luxury to make enough or spend enough of it.

And in all honesty, I don't think they are entirely looking at how you have fun, but more so you choices while having fun such as, calling a taxi cab driver instead of driving home drunk. Since I'm sure they

 

Asking for my personal facebook account? And pass? No way. Even if im applying for a suer-hero job.

My personal details are personal and i will not give em away to some company. Actually when i apply for a job i just let they know my skills, my value and just my address and phone, and one selected email account just for comunication. They dont need to know anything else.

I dunno how privacy policies are at USA, but here at Spain its a very serious matter, and even big companies take care to do not break the rules against this law.

 

Mmh, I agree that a proper background check should be needed and if they were considering you for a goverment/law job. Instead of asking for password tho easiest way would be to ask someone on Facebook to provide you with message history and whatever not. That way you're not "invading" privacy by actually using someones account to check them up since, what stops "your boss" or whoever does the interview or background check from abusing your account and changing password?

Besides if needed you could also check someones criminal record. -.-


EDIT: What's with the huge space between my "post" n my signature?

 

Then you need to make professional and good quality selection process, not asking for personal details.

Just think about this. What do you want for your company? A good professional with a nice curriculum, good experience and skills, productive and formal. Who cares if this guy used to watch cartoons, climb mountains or whatever he does? Its his free time. You hire he for X hours a day, thats all. Out of this time the company have no rights about this person.

Thats my point of view

 

They have no right to investigate my social networks.... What if im one of the best professionals, but i like to mess around at social networks? Im less professional because this? Of course no...
There are other ways to know if someone will fit the job. Like references, contrasted experience, recomendation letters, asking the last boss.... but not investigating his/her personal time.

 

Actually performing a criminal background check does not violate your rates, as criminal information is public information in the United States.

 

Suzuri I agree with you but some details like this can help avoid bank robbers from working in a bank for instance... Known thing that happen here in sweden not along time ago is that ppl found out that the founder n principal of an elementary school was actually a "former" pedofil n with former I meant he had gotten out of jail lol... Now he's back in jail though...

EDIT: As Vaardan stated it doesn't violate your rights, so lets say you have a criminal record wouldn't that allow for a message history from facebook to be given out to an employer?

 

I can see them looking at your profile (if its made public) so they can get a better idea of who you are and what type of person you are.
But as far as asking for you account information and password I think that is way out of line. To me that is like them asking my permission to come into my house go threw my personal paperwork, emails, drawers, etc... Just to find anything to keep from hiring you. With the economy the way it is employers pretty much have the pick of the litter. Therefore a lot more people are willing to have their privacy invaded to be eligible for the job. Now I can see parents of a minor upon proving they are the parents/guardian should be able to get into their child's profile, etc... Just to see what they are doing if they suspect them of doing wrong.

 

Agreed, now what I meant is that it would only really apply to those with a criminal record. At least that's what I've been trying to imply lol.

Also not getting a hold of the passsword for your account but asking Facebook for your message history.

 

Maybe its ok to know some details for some jobs, and i mean details as criminal ones. They do it already for some, you cant join police enforces if you got a criminal profile, and you can be banned for some other public jobs. I also think that sexual criminals must be tracked by the administration.

But there is no way for a company to ask about my personal life in order to hire me. They can propose all the test they want on the selection process. Technica, psycological, medic, etc. And the results also of all this test must be subject to strict secret.

But agan, what i do on my free time only matters to me, as long as i dont breack the law.