Religion

Religion, particularly, Christianity.

Christianity, itself, represented the evolution, development, and growth of man kind.

Why so?

As you may or may not know, long ago, even today, Churches play a paramount importantce in our society. In the past they served as the "holy" government to ensure peace, freedom and justice. Today, they serve to be the holy temples for us followers to prey and confess to Jesus Christ/our lord.

A brief historical background.

In 900 A.D when the first Anglo Saxons invaded the so called "European" countries, these Anglos where pagans(meaning non-religions), within their society at that time, the only "law" which governed these people were the mere crude idea of blood for blood. For example: I steal your food or something the like, if I were caught, then my life is at the stake of whom I stole the food from or on another occasion, say I kill someone in your family, your family has the right to kill anyone in my family. Sad, but true, these were the first Anglo Saxons -the first Cauasaians. So on, as time proceeds, these Anglos were soon influenced by religion-Christianity, they were not so much blinded by the fact that god is almighty, but by the fact that they needed some re-assurance, some comfort, some hope. As we all know 1000 years ago, people life comes and goes like a snap. Thus, people cherished their lives, but also wanted to seek "after-life". In the end, Christianity became the dominate in the dveleopement of the entire Europe(the white people we know today-side note: screw the asains never bothered to look into chinese history please accept my humblest apologies).

It is evident that people became "religious" because they were aiming for something. Nevertheless there are the many true follower of Christ back then as well. Priest, pastor, and nuns were the only ones who knew/learned to read and write, and thus they were crucial to each society because they, and only they, have to ability to record events and stories. Moreover, this is exactly one more reason why Christianity becamse the central power of Europe from the 100 Years War to the Romantic Ages. (FYI, in those time periods, an Arch Bishop holds more power than all Kings).

More or less, the developement of the entire European countries depended on the Churches, which held much more power than we know today, back then they had political power, armed force and limitless reasources-all being belongs to our Lord and thus belongs to the Churches-their ideal or whatnot back then.

Blah blah blah, fast forward, and here we are 21st century. What is religion to us? What is Chrisitianity today? And more importantly is there a God?

Having stated my opinions to my contemporaries during University years, I often found my classmates speechless and rather "perplexed" after giving them my explanation on the questions above.

1. Many people doubt the legitimacy of the Holy Bible.

In my perspective, i find it rather "ironic" when people holds doubt to history. Wait wait!! What! History?
Yes, i said History. But WHY? If you have ever read any part of the New testment, people can easily the context in the Holy Bible explains and portarys much of the Middle Ages societies. It holds records of many event-which are proved to have existed, people's belief, people's thought and people's doings were all there in the Holy Bible. Moreover, literature itself is also much related to the Holy Bible because as we can see such as Sir Gawin and the green knight and other epics they all have connections with the Holy Bible. -------Having said this, then would it not be logical to say that much of our history, the making of man kind are recoreded in the Holy Bible? Then, to doubt the legitmacy of the Bible is to doubt history, to doubt history is to doubt the man and to doubt man is to what? To doubt the very existence of our world. Ironic? isn it. So next time when some one ask you is Holy Bible real... what would you say?

2. The end of the world... everyone wants to hears this.

As a Christian myself, I have a few words which i want to utter out though it may/may not be distrubing for all of you here.

Last sunday during service, btother william said:

"We fear the end, yet as the followers of christ we are not blind, unlike others, we hold the script of this movie(the world), and we can clearly see how it will end"

When the holy kingdom descends, the earth will tremple like the coming of a new born.

Wait WTF does that mean, let me explain.

Well, to put it simple, when a new born is coming out the intensity increases, the mother's breather fastens, and everything becomes more rapid but also with more power.

Isnt this is what is happening to our world right now? The war in middle east, the earthquake in SiChuan, Haiti and now Japan(Tsunami). As you can see these natural disasters are now occuring at places where are MORE populated. These disasters are more intense and the consquence are more dire.

Now the questions when will the kingdom descend......




Lost track of wat else i have to say, ill keep writing trm.

Blah 6AM ill write more when i wake up.


Anyhow, please feel free to leave comments on your perspectives.

 

Yes, religion.
A topic that has the highest chance of a flame war, trolls running loose and so on..

Though I didn't really understand what did you want to discuss in particular,
because Christianity itself can be a very wide topic.

 

as Muslim i love Christianity coz its the closest religion to Islam and that for sure after studying the Gospel


so love for all humanity

 

u know that Christianity is divided into 3 parts as well?

 

every Religion have too many sects even within sects there r some deferences for sure every buddy knows that brings so clashes

but in the end its bless from god coz we have free will

 

@Aijun
Sleep Well.

btw , I got a few Questions. (Off-topic questions maybe , but related to this one)

Why do you say "ur father , Jesus Christ".

What's your religion?

I may be called a "Christian" but i only talk to God/about God when I'm about to Insult/Blame him for something Bad that happened LOL (or when i'm about to ask for help.. sometimes)


He shouldn't have created us from the very beginning... worst mistake ever Xd

I'm not an Atheist tho , i believe in god , i just don't follow any religion

Religions I.M.O Just put some Limits to your life and make it hard.

Don't Do this , Don't to that , no this is wrong , god loves u(yes right , that's why our world ended up like that) , god wants you to do this , god doesn't like this , god says this is wrong , bla bla bla

It's REALLY Annoying!

And there are sooo many religions around... each one says that the others are wrong and they are the right ones. People follow just what makes them feel more comfortable and safe. (churches say if u don't believe u will go to hell , and if u believe u will go to heaven , and if u're a good christian god will grant you many things and your life will be nice bla bla)
A true waste of time! I grew up in a religious - christian family that "loved" god and followed what the holy bible said step by step

And how did they end up? Divorced and having a f***ed up life , no money , etc

And when i say many religions , I don't mean "I'm Christian , You're Muslim"
I mean We BOTH Are christians but you're catholic for example and i'm Orthodox
Are we supposed to follow the religion our country follows? Or our instict that says "this religion is wrong and this religion is right" ?

Everything that's "BAD" such as killing , stealing , etc is already forbidden by the laws of each country , a religion is not needed at all , don't you think?

And @ what u said (Churches helped in our evolution etc)

Churches partially helped our "evolution" but also doomed us forever.
And the way some churches ended up like nowadays is just ridiculous.

Example? Orthodox Church has Some "High-Ranked" Priests or whatever.
Those people are wearing clothes full of f***ing gold while there are people starving around them.

Our Damn Church in Greece has soo much money that can solve the whole country's economy problems...
They're NOT helping our evolution , they are only holding us back. (and they're taking money from the stupid people who go to church and give their "contribution" to help the church)

And do not forget that Religions are what causes some crazy people even in our days to cut theirselves off and crucify theirselves etc


ps: Don't reply here and say "And that's why i'm a muslim!" or some sh*t like that because the true followers of your religion , are supposed to kill every christian and you know that very well deep in your thoughts , even if your first reaction is denying it. (and if not every , then most of them)
Expecially the ones that worship Statues/Images such as Orthodox/Catholic people.
You know i'm right and you are forcing yourself to deny it >.>

And buddhists are the same ^^ "Statue Worshippers"
Which I.M.O is ridiculous... it's like cutting a rock off a cliff and saying this is ur God.


EDIT:

@ellacafe
Only a retard would flame here.
Everyone is supposed to Accept the others' opinions here , otherwise he can get the f*** out of this thread.

@Kisra
Don't hate/flame me before u think well about what i said! I don't hate any religion , i just don't like them and i'm saying my opinion about them ^^

@Snic

Wew 3 parts only? You mean 30 maybe?...
Congratulations for becoming an Aion Master by the way!

Based on my Religion(And every other religion i think), I'll be rotting in hell soon haha.

 

i believe in the right of freedom of speech but notice u just talked about the ppl running the Religion not the core of it

some time we have to make deference there is man made and there is god made

btw my sect forbid the killing of any human there is Hadeth (saying from Muhammad) we follow which is [ if u kill one human its like u killed the whole world]

 

That's exactly what i said Kisra

There are diffirent kinds of religions

as you said , it is forbidden to kill people - whoever does it , is wrong based on ur beliefs

but you , because you don't do it , you are also wrong in the eyes of those who believe they should do it.


Got my point?

The same happens with christians man.. I am NOT talking about muslims only , don't think that... because it may sound like it. And to be honest , my mother is a muslim because she is from syria. And her new husband is too. My opinion? Muslims are helpful and treat u like a brother , christians are damn b4st4rds who would just watch you die slowly anytime. I do not know if that has to do with the religion or not , that's just my point of view.


for me , there is no religion i like

some christians would kill each other , they just don't do it cause it's against the country's laws.

WE decide which religion is right and which is not , by following our "instict" or our Intelligence or whatever it could be.


And there is no "Right Religion"
Every religion changed something or follows a part of it's books/scripts etc

These tomes/documents or whatever they are called , were created ages ago and noone can guarantee us that what is written in our current books is exactly like what was written in the original ones.

Plus churches translate each thing with their own way.
Example: Some religion says that the Pictures orthodox people worship count as statues , so they are statue worshippers (worshipping a statue is forbidden in the Holy Bible i know)
The orthodox people say "it's not a statue , it's just a picture and we don't worship it"
Though they kiss it and shit like that
That's worshipping , and yes it IS a damn statue in my opinion.

 

for sure petro there will be always deferences coz we have free will

this kind of stuff comes coz god blessed humanity with free will so what we can do now is as what god did by blessing his creation to have the free will so as human we should practice this and let other have this freedom that god blessed us all with but some ppl cant resist controlling others and here comes the man made that prevent other ppl to have free will

i hope u got my point

 

Yeah i got ur point , and i agree completely with you ^^

God blesses us and helps us in our troubles always , no matter what our religion is
I believe that personally , and i thank god for that
But in my case , my life is f***ed up and god is not helping me much lol. (Of course since i'm insulting god so many times and since i'm doing so many bad things , i'm not expecting something.)
He gave us the freedom of choice but the problem is most of us DON'T KNOW what to choose
some others chose something already and they believe it's the right thing , no1 can guarantee you it is though.

Anyway , i've got to eat now
Have a good Day!
God bless u all.

 

man try to be positive as much as u can it will help
am not going to say god testing you but am going to say look always at the positive side

 

I think that no matter in what religion you are in, you believe in, or have faith in. I think anything, as long it helps you move along day by day, you should embrace it. And no one should tell you that you are wrong about it.


Lastly diversity is what make life great after all, many religions means many ways of thinking. Is just we must be clear that there is line in between believers and fanatics, and thats were problems arise.

No man should be above any other in terms of beliefs and way of thinking, is just nobody should impose their thinking to others. Thats the beauty of freewill.

 

updated with some more history stuff and some answer which some of you may be looking for.

P.S. I am totally bored..

 

Uhhh, numerous portions of the Bible, the "Young Earth" idea and creationism, are disproved by scientific ideas today. Most of your "benefits" about the churches are false, nation states developed due to certain other factors. Sure religion was a big part, but religion is also the cause of numerous injustices in the world, from crusades to imperialism.

And what is "going on in the world right now" is NOT the end of the world. This is nothing compared to the early 20th century with the two world wars. Please, its not even CLOSE to the destruction there, ie atomic bomb.

 

Agree, I hate all the people that think that they know everything, as well as the world's end and divine signs of it. A good example is from Aijun's post (And I quote):

Seriously, we are all not blind, we just see everything different. He does NOT hold the "script of the movie", as well as he can't clearly see how it will end.

As long as you believe in something just to move on, I kind of agree with you. If you don't believe in the same thing that I do, we may both be wrong or not, but we sure have different views of the world.