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Is it just me or are rangers alittle OP in the abyss

Discussion in 'Old Threads' started by Swiftshott, Jul 24, 2010.

  1. Swiftshott

    Swiftshott New Member

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    you don't know how to read. I play a ranger and I am saying it is easy to kill if i didn't know how to play I would be saying they suck please before you decide to post something to in a thread please read it.
     
  2. kathiki

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    They are seriously overpowered.

    1) hide skill -> you just wander around not being able to be seen then all you just do is fire up the 0 sec cast combos even when flying or moving

    2) silence 6 sec root/slow sleep, just this combo and find myself unable to do anything

    i am all +25 resists by the way

    game is really badly designed in terms of resists v abilities or it is a serverside problem

    but ...... name ONE game that has been designed with a pvp that is not unbalanced
     
  3. RedRobin

    RedRobin Getting there

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    well I just raped you in abyss so i'm not sure what you mean by you are OP..
     
  4. Ald

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    1) Rarely do i get to sneak up on someone without an asmo ranger around with his eye up. And only a few skills can we use while moving, one of which doesn't work.

    2) Slow doesn't work in the air.

    I still don't think magic resist is working correctly because my sleep has not been resisted yet.
     
  5. kathiki

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    it is not just your sleep,

    the worst of all is that your silence lasts long enough to fire up all your other 0 sec cast abilities.........

    basically a game that has a macro to fire up skills is the one that is destroying pvp...

    i usually check my logs when fighting asmo rangers not because i want to check if they are hacking but to see everyting that in the period of this nice silence /stun session the antistun skill lights up but it never works..... it lights up but no matter how many times you press the button it simply won;t work......

    take the server side lag when someone is using a macro or when someone is spamming his abilities .... plus the silence stun sleep and you fire up 3-4 times more abilities than the other classes....

    have not checked yet if the anti stun does not fire up because it is regarded as a magic skill, maybe silence does not allow you to use it.......

    this happens only with archers...

    the op mentioned in the thread is not in mass pvp..... mass pvp is simply a matter of a good pc/server-isp lag and most important of all reflexes and good use of abilities............... second comes zerg ... the mass numbers of players and coordinated attacks

    but the hide skill for those classes that do not have see hide is deadly.......

    one more thing that i have experienced.... someone hits you but hisd name does not appear on your aggro list...... this of course does not always happen.... soemtimes you get the name of the person hitting you on the aggro list , therefore you can react....... most times you do not.... server side lag?

    For me what is even more badly designed in the game is how rangers and assassins use potions/scrolls mid-flight without breaking their hide/invisibility....... hide should also eat up on their mana.....

    i also noticed that one asmo general was constantly using the same macro with the exact same dps...... so i do not know if parry or resistance manastones even work .........
     
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  6. Vian

    Vian Getting there

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    You must have been fighting noob sins then. Cuz sins eat rangers alive anywhere.

    @poster above: Sins do break their hide when they use pots.
     
  7. Swiftshott

    Swiftshott New Member

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    I do believe you are mistaken i have been playing my sin for the past 4 days maybe you killed someone else and if you did congrats on the AP everyone needs a little AP
     
  8. Assumptio

    Assumptio Banned

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    @ OP

    Rangers have always been the most OP class in the game. I'd go into more detail, but I don't feel like regurgitating my old posts.

    So i'll just say this: If you want this game to be fun, play something else. If you're happy with no talent ez mode, continue to play your ranger.
     
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    Bryne Pactum Angelorum Forum Legend

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    -Moving to the Correct Section- tut..tut...
     
  10. kathiki

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    2010.07.27 19:44:49 : Scoopy has inflicted 386 damage on you by using Entangling Shot IV.
    2010.07.27 19:44:51 : Scoopy has inflicted 1,636 damage on you by using Shackle Arrow II.
    2010.07.27 19:44:53 : Scoopy is in the boost Physical Attack state because Scoopy used Devotion I.
    2010.07.27 19:44:54 : Scoopy changed his Atk Range by using Bestial Fury I.
    2010.07.27 19:44:55 : You gave yourself a defense shield by using Immortal Shroud I.
    2010.07.27 19:44:57 : You inflicted 864 damage on Scoopy by using Slashing Wind II.

    2010.07.27 19:44:57 : You blocked Scoopy's attack.
    2010.07.27 19:44:57 : You blocked Scoopy's attack with the protective shield effect.
    2010.07.27 19:44:57 : Scoopy has inflicted 0 damage on you by using Lethal Arrow II.


    (3 attacks in o seconds)

    2010.07.27 19:44:57 : You are no longer immobilized.

    2010.07.27 19:44:58 : You blocked Scoopy's attack with the protective shield effect.

    2010.07.27 19:44:58 : Scoopy has inflicted 0
    damage on you by using
    Silence Arrow VI.
    2010.07.27 19:44:59 : You blocked Scoopy's attack with the protective shield effect.
    2010.07.27 19:44:59 : Scoopy has inflicted 0 damage on you by using Deadly Arrow I.
    2010.07.27 19:45:00 : You blocked Scoopy's attack with the protective shield effect.
    2010.07.27 19:45:00 : Scoopy has inflicted 0 damage on you by using Stunning Shot IV.
    2010.07.27 19:45:00 : You are no longer stunned.
    2010.07.27 19:45:01 : You blocked Scoopy's attack with the protective shield effect.
    2010.07.27 19:45:01 : Scoopy has inflicted 0 damage on you by using Rupture Arrow III.
    2010.07.27 19:45:01 : Scoopy has knocked you back by using Rupture Arrow III.
    2010.07.27 19:45:02 : You blocked Scoopy's attack with the protective shield effect.
    2010.07.27 19:45:02 : Critical Hit! You received 191 damage from Scoopy.
    2010.07.27 19:45:03 : Scoopy has inflicted 1,320 damage on you by using Arrow Storm II.
    2010.07.27 19:45:03 : You are no longer staggering.
    2010.07.27 19:45:04 : Scoopy has inflicted 905 damage on you by using Heart Shot II.
    2010.07.27 19:45:05 : Automatic Announce: Can't Teleport or Pass Level 9? Complete the necessary Quest First !
    2010.07.27 19:45:05 : Your movement speed is restored to normal.
    2010.07.27 19:45:06 : Critical Hit! You received 628 damage from Scoopy.
    2010.07.27 19:45:06 :
    You are no longer silenced.

    2010.07.27 19:45:06 : Scoopy has inflicted 1,111 damage on you by using Explosive Arrow IV.
    2010.07.27 19:45:07 : You recovered 2,210 HP by using Flash of Recovery V.

    2010.07.27 19:45:07 : Critical Hit! You received 689 damage from Scoopy.
    2010.07.27 19:45:07 : Scoopy has inflicted 1,478 damage on you by using Agonizing Arrow I.

    2 skills in one sec again?

    2010.07.27 19:45:09 : Scoopy has inflicted 1,082 damage on you by using Lightning Arrow I.
    2010.07.27 19:45:10 : You are no longer stunned.
    2010.07.27 19:45:10 : Critical Hit! You received 572 damage from Scoopy.
    2010.07.27 19:45:10 : Scoopy has inflicted 658 damage on you by using Gale Arrow IV.
    2010.07.27 19:45:11 : The target is too far away.
    2010.07.27 19:45:11 : Critical Hit! You received 644 damage from Scoopy.


    all this time i got the antistun skill to light up 3 or four times...... since i know how i die all this time of pvp sessions with rangers all i do is place my mouse on the anti stun icon so when it lights up i spam on it.................... SPAM

    see any indication of it working?

    i got one chance to stun this guy which obviously did not work even though i got the skill to work ...... he was not stunned

    just as i mentioned in the post before.........

    combine server lag with these 0 sec casting skills on a macro and you are just on the loose....

    so either this server has some very bad coding or the game has really overpowered your abilites...
     
  11. Prestige

    Prestige Well-Known Member

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    You're just a noob. Have you guys ever fought an abyss equipped Temp/Glad yet? Or run into a sorc that can 1 hit ko with Lightburst II with now, increased casting spd with scroll/buffs?

    Every class has their own advantages and you just have to find out different strategies with your own class to counter each and every class.
     
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  12. RetRy

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    lol, i never got killed by a ranger (im a chanter)
     
  13. kathiki

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    maybe YOU VETERAN players can then explain how you get past the silence/stun/knockback/stuggering/sleep 0 sec cast of a ranger............

    i have full anuhart with magic resistance and none helps with SOME rangers............ not all...... another set is full parry, same experience

    so if this a matter of a lvl 55 abyss gear that only donators can get, then i am really sorry for the server........... not for rangers.


    so back to the original post............. rangers have how many abilities with 0 sec cast time firing arrows THAT CAN BE USED while flying AND WHILE MOVING ?.... that can also be used immediately when coming out of HIDE in one single macro as this guy has been using.... an awesome macro indeed..... and all i see when flying behind a ranger who is on the verge of dying, is him disappearing by using hide.... yeah right!

    clerics have had 4 broken abilities so far, plus the fact that the antistun is not working ) plus our noble summon does not work in the air, plus the fact that silence does not break upon hit so we cannot heal or use any spells which are are all 3 sec cast.............


    so yeah you are op in abyss....... but just as i have experienced these few days and mentioned above, if most of this is a matter of lvl 55 abyss gear then this is all crap..............

    if i were a noob i would not be going through chat logs every sinlge fight to see how macros work in terms of damage and all, or would not be trying different gear and such............. noobs are those who totally dismiss a point without validating their own.............
     
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    1) If magic resist was working you'd be resisting sleep and silence.

    2) Entangling Shot, Arrow Strike, Gale Arrow, and Heart Shot are the only skills that can be used while moving. E-shot doesn't work in the air. Arrow strike is rarely used because it's in a chain we rarely use at 55. Heart Shot you can blame on not having a stigma system like we'd actually like.

    3) The only macro i use is one for dropping wings and setting Trap of Slowing in the air. If a ranger is using a macro to fire off skills then chances are he's using something illegal that i hear glads are using also.

    I don't have lvl 55 gear or weapon and i manage fine. You have to also understand that Aion isn't a 1vs.1 PVP game. Some classes are meant to shine over others. Best bet is to go hunting in groups. Once the alliance system if fixed, then we'll really see what group PVP is supposed to be like.
     
  15. SamFiss

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    Every class could be called OP here because they have so many stigma skills :whistling:
    Oh and rangers are easy kill for me as a chanter :>
     
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