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Which orb is better?

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  1. Rome

    Rome ソロモン・ヨアズ・アブラハム Forum Legend

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    NHDE Orb
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    MCD Orb (im not talking about tome but orb)

    does anybody knows ? cause i wan't to fuse my abg jewel with my NHDE but my legionmate said MCD Orb is better and if its better anybody has ?
     
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    honestly i prefer masta just coz of the extra spell crit
     
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    MCD orb xD more MB
     
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    yeah but i get MB from manastones, there r no mage crit manastones ^^ also if u look at the mb difference its pretty tiny :p spell crit is like 50 percent more dmg, how much does mb give u? like 10 dmg? xD
     
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    None. Get Sema/Padma/Yammenes.

    If you fuse it with ABG you get 19% atkspd + 20% cast speed.

    MCD orb = 16% cast speed ; if you fuse it with your ABG you will lose your 20% cast speed from abg if you'll use MCD for base stats, hence you'd end up with a sucky weap.

    Idk about NHDE, but I figure it's like MCD. So no. Just get an atkspd jewel.

    Do the maths.
     
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    does atk speed really do anything for mages? dont find it significant
     
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    if tome, MCD tome + ABG is perfect
    if orb, masta + ABG is perfect
     
  8. Rome

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    sorry to dissapoint you but we use Casting speed not Attacking speed its useless and NHDE is not like MCD it has no casting speed but if i fuse it with Abg i will get the casting speed from abg + the magic crit bonus from NHDE

    does anybody has the website where ican compare items ?
     
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    yeah i also go for masta + abg orbs

    btw the advantage of slow atk speed (slow after cast animation) is that u get a lot of ur next skill already done be4 ur last 1 breaks sleep/root/tree etc :p

    aiondatabase, aion.yg, aionarmory, the 3 most common websites

    here r the 2 i just looked up

    masta
    http://www.aiondatabase.com/item/100500712/enraged-mastarius's-jewel

    sema
    http://www.aiondatabase.com/item/100500706/sematariux's-jewel
     
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    but now i use ABG + taha, more mb, and cheap than
     
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    Rome ソロモン・ヨアズ・アブラハム Forum Legend

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    i'll go for Masta + abg i'll look for vielle cause vielle's orb is sexy
     
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    well not really coz abg has lower base stats than masta (we use masta as primary during masta + abg), also get more hp and other stuff (along with base attack and whatnot)

    but yeah i agree it is cheaper :p

    never liked vielle xD atm i use...tahabata remodel :p might remodel to sema later. i just love the dragons ^^
     
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    i sell vielle orb +15 6 slot, so cute
     
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    pro sorc not need more stat to kill someone, i ussually use Masta tome + Taha tome and i can kill anyone if i not lag and my skill isnot in cd
     
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    thats kinda the biggest issue :p and yeah i agree most of these debates s pointless coz the actual stat difference is generally around what, 20? xD its ridiculously low

    im talking bout theoretical right now though :p
     
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    I like atkspd. It makes me cast faster by lessening my animation.

    Also, if you fuse masta/vielle + ABG, ABG Cast speed (20% ) Will be ignored and the cast speed of the masta (20% ) will be used.

    Hence with that weap fuse, you get all the stats + pvp attack bonus + 20% cast speed.

    But if you use sema/yammenes/padma, you get

    stats + pvp attack bonus + 20% cast speed + 19% atkspd.

    I hope you get my drift here.
     
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    yeah and im against faster animations :p i enjoy the delay on some skills like glacial/flame spray etc coz people r rooted/slept etc for longer and im already casting my next skill. that means that by the time they can move, they r hit by more skills than that ^^ they also deal more dmg than delay skills that way, but u can use that too
     
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    really, maybe u need use tome, orb is melee atk, tome is better than. Sema tome ( selling)
     
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    LOL that was funny :p "u need to use this coz im selling it" ^^

    the only real difference between them is tomes have lower mb but higher accuracy, thats bout it. sorc never use auto attacks anyways coz they fail so why bother :p we r a skill based class
     
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    if tome, MCD+ABG is super perfect, but if orb, masta +ABG is better because u had more HP, more magic crit, and some stat, althougt cast speed will be ignored in ABG orb, but sema orb is not had good stat so much, less mb, less ma, less HP, less magic crit.... etc.
    and why u need Atk speed, ??? sorc dont need atk speed, how many dame???? and u really cast faster????? idont think so
     

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