What's going on?

in that case

4. why fight against oppression that u dont feel? that doesnt bother u in any way?

besides, not a valid argument coz this isnt the gamez scenario

 

Either way, the means is still there, and smartik still hasn't given me a good counter-argument. Also, whether it was the tool or the oppression itself isn't what we're arguing here >.>

People who don't feel it aren't fighting against it, your question is invalid -.- Those who're fed up DO fight it (in this case they'd be the savage) >.>

It doesn't have to be an exact gamez scenario to have parallels

 

<.< just pointing it out

 

the "savage" wasnt on drugs xD

i believe the bold part pretty much sums up my argument. saying its invalid then rephrasing my statement is equivalent to contradicting urself

plz do point out the parallels coz im not really seeing them

 

No one here is on drugs... sigh.. you really have trouble seeing this.

The bold part proves that those who're unaware do not give a shit, (thats a parallel to the book) People who know whats been going on DO give a shit (thats another parallel).

1. World controller (cough): Remember how Mond knew what was going on but simply oppressed people? His reason was happiness, our Mustafa's reason is money.
2. Large population lacking ability to communicate properly (do I really need to expand on this one?)
3. Making examples out of people, this was the purpose of the reservations in the book... (do I need to tell you how many people have been made into examples here?)

Seriously if you don't get this I'll just give up... cause you either refuse to see this, or I dunno...

back to my ORIGINAL point, people don't need to know that they're being oppressed in order to BE oppressed

 

ur not seeing the obvious fault in this

the fact that they r unaware is coz theres nothing to be aware of (coz unlike in the book, there is nothing supressing their feelings here)

i do agree on a part of the population being unable to communicate properly though but most of us speak english and those that care use translators

 

everyone who doesn t aggree with smartik is a troll...
but if u keep ur mouth and ot express ur disagreement u have the priviledge of smartik calling u just observer

 

Most are unaware just because they dont give a damn

 

misrepresenting people to prove ur point, so commonly done these days.

no i dont do this and i havent called demetrea a troll coz she had justification for what shes saying

the troll trio is known all over the forums for this, not just by me. the reason was more than obvious in the thread itself where the only argument they could come up with were personal insults

if they dont give a damn, it means its not important enough to them to "fight a revolution" over. isnt that the answer u were looking for? i believe it is

 

FYI i didnt agree with smartik or demetrea. They were just going on a useless argument. I posted things against both of them and in favour of them

 

exactly why i chose the word observer. u refused to take sides so i think its pretty justified thanks to ur neutrality

 

I kinda explained this on the thread that got deleted, and you ignored just to get in the troll fight ;o Soooooooo i aint explaining it again for the time being.

 

i believe that theres no need to fight a revolution when its not a problem people care about. as u said, they dont give a damn

if they dont give a damn, why bother fighting? leave them to it, less stress for all of us

 

And always server DELAY! Host is CRAP! CRAP CRAP CRAP! ALWAYS Facking delay/

 

In 1933 the world had exactly your point of view they could halt easily oppression then but the didn t
Wanna know where that point of view ended?
Check history books 1939-1945

As Bertolt brecht said



...then the came for me and there wasn anyone left...
there s your answer why we care

 

So, just cuz they dont care they should be left there to rot on that enviroment?

 

people like to link dramatic historic events but its not even related

this drama was between 2 staff members. none of us r staff members here

if its about bugged server, all of us r affected the same way

if its about carl not being around, all of us r affected the same way

there is no categoric elimination u speak of here, its either all of us or none of us

if they dont care, theres no need for a change. coz the result of the change will be them not caring just as much (unless they end up raging after the change)

 

That s exactly what Brecht refers to u just fail to see the point.

 

You do realize this is just turning in circles ryt

 

"grass is actually blue, u just dont see it"

same idea. quoting an important person doesnt mean the argumant applies in every case u want it to

i do actually. if the vast majority of people dont call for change (and keep calling) then there is no need for one

at the beginning when people were raging, there were what, maybe 30 of them that actually cared? now there r how many? like 4 of u? most just went back to gaming, that hardly shows a need