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Racism and Homophobia: Equally Wrong?

Discussion in 'Old Threads' started by Frenemy, Apr 9, 2011.

  1. Ashtar

    Ashtar Enraged Ashtarius Forum Legend

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    It's not right to stereotype a whole group based on one experience. You will always find rude people no matter what "group" they fall into.
     
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  2. Tsukuyomi

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    Ashtar, I totally agree with you.

    I'm not gay, and fully respect the choices of others. Do what you think should be done. It's your life
     
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  3. Nujabes

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    There can never be a good reason for becoming a racist, but I will not deny that minatory of people are more comfortable with their own kind due to lack of understanding of another race. I don't have an issue of gay people at all but I have no interest of becoming one.

    But there is truly one thing I honestly hate and is something I call 'man-*****es'. When a man tries too damn hard to behave like a women and I mean doing it in a dramatic way. Overly done make up, dressing like a women, over reacting to small situations, rude as ****, putting his hands on his lips while pressing his hip out. Ugh, disgusting. I won't even consider those kinds of people gay, I've met quite a lot of gay people and they're simply real about themselves but these 'other' kinds are just the opposite. A women trapped in a man's body and is at war with themselves. Man is free to do as he or she pleases, so I've chosen to no longer take no mind into these kinds of people as I have extreme intolerance for that sort of level of human behaviour, and that person should be grateful that I am only doing just that.
     
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  4. Deadlychants

    Deadlychants Rainbow kittens Forum Legend

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    Both are wrong. If I had to say which one feels worse to me I would say it's racism because it's something that hate, and eventually violence can take place with--and it has before. If you're homophobic, then you're simply scared of homosexuals and choose to avoid them.

    If you're name calling, gay bashing, or doing any other kind of unethical action towards the gay community then it's something else. It's not homophobia.

    Agreed. There's douchebags in every group. Be it asian, white, black, gay, straight, you name it. You can't judge a group by the actions of one person, otherwise the world would be much more disappointing then what it seems now.
     
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  5. Tsuuki

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    I think both are wrong, however homophobia is a phobia afterall. If your saying terrible words towards gay people, like Deadlychants said, then it's no longer homophobia, that's just hating someone for who they want to be. I have gay friends and to be honest, they're probably the most fun people i've met. Funny, kind, and respectful.

    Both are just as wrong really, because it's hating someone for who they are or what they want to be.
     
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    dont be a drag just be a queen!
     
  7. regiix3

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    no lady gaga please:
    physically both are wrong
    logically, racism is only a state pointed out to someone regarding skin colour, race etc. in a very taunting way, which is fking stupid all i can say. If you dont like how a person is, or what they look like, too bad for you.
    ofc, homophobia, i have it, partly related to sexual relationships and actions yeaah? im traumatised with that, so basically, i really am paranoid and scared of these stuff. But if your gossiping or awkwardly looking at gays on the street, idk, kissing, it could affect them, they might think its alright, but what youre doing, you could be making them look like freaks.
    *And i never said any of these were right :>

    (no racism intended) Why did michael jackson make himself go white? I think he was perfect the way he was D:
     
  8. The Ablazed

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    Cuz he had a disease? o_O
     
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    Both are wrong, it's just, the battle for "civil rights" has been going on for centuries while the gay rights movement is just recent. So different races are accepted more than different sexualities. There is no reason to hate anyone for being different. It just proves how insecure you yourself are.
     
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    serious ? O_O
    never knew x{
     
  11. Deadlychants

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    lol.. he had a skin disease. xD Regi you're so funny
     
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    idk, i never get updated or downgraded with news.
    i doubt i was even born when the news was out @____@"
     
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    Both are wrong... I the end everyone is a human being with the same rights as the person next to you, deserves the same respect, consideration, and treatment. Regarding Homophobia or personal choices about sexuality... nobody and I mean NOBODY, has the right to judge the choices a person does to look for his/her true identity. they dont loss their condition as a human being just because of that.

    When you fall into being racist, or an homophobic, just because a personal opinion disregarding the human condition... you are low.
     
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    Gods both :[
     
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    Nothing is wrong about judging (giving an opinion) about another individual and you do actually have the right to speak what's on your mind. The fact that I'm even giving an opinion means that I've acknowledge their existence, whether it was a positive or negative opinion.

    I would understand them better than a person who fears to give judgement on another because they assume it is 'low', I have giving acknowledgement, the other have just 'accepted' and 'ignored' their very existence, that is low and if you have some understanding of another person means you have an opinion of what they're to you. So you're part of the game that you may consider low.

    It's wrong when you compromise their free will into becoming what they feel best for them, but to give an opinion? That's the just reality of everything we do.
     
  16. Xalgoth

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    Racism? ****ING STUPID
    Homophobia? ****ING STUPID
    Won't spare mercy on either group of haters.
    Nuff' said.
     
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    Your Illusion of free will is noted in what you say. Free will is a concept and an idea not an actual reality. There is few things that constitute a racist opinion's on a said person as being right. If they have a stronger will then yours then they are right.
    Face it your reality is influenced by everyone's will and reality. You might live in your own reality where you are always right but once you snap out of it and into the collective reality you are subjected to other's will. Only those whose will is strong have influence on the masses.
    That's why we see people who look and act the same all around us today. There is no individuality because these people are watching reality TV shows pain by the very corporations they buy from to brainwash their little asses.
    There is no free will there is only Strong Will and the Collective's Will.
     
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    This post reminds me of a poem I wrote.
     
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    Well didn't really think it out whenever I speak philosophically I never think I just type or say. Most people are confused by what I say thinking it's one big paradox but If I took the time to explain out what I think and Believe about everything only then would it make sense. Or not. To be honest I'm never sure of what really does make sense.
     
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    I just stand by the Assassin's Creed main quote: Nothing is true, everything is permitted. It's the only thing that make sense.
     

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