Loading...
  1. Dismiss Notice
  2. Dismiss Notice
  3. Dismiss Notice
  4. If this is your first visit, you may have to register before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below.

Religion or atheism?

Discussion in 'Old Threads' started by Dranzell, Feb 20, 2011.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. cozolinofly

    cozolinofly Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 16, 2010
    Messages:
    1,982
    Likes Received:
    824
    Trophy Points:
    363
    How the Universe was created?
     
  2. Autumn

    Autumn Banned

    Joined:
    Jun 28, 2010
    Messages:
    1,630
    Likes Received:
    563
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Yes. How the universe was created. Fourth day. Creation of stars, sun, and constellations.
     
  3. Xalamander

    Xalamander Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 31, 2010
    Messages:
    1,777
    Likes Received:
    201
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Location:
    Home
  4. konichi

    konichi Century Old Artifact

    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2010
    Messages:
    1,022
    Likes Received:
    269
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Seriously it all depends on one's belief. Me being a believer of God doesn't make me something more superior than others so as those who are non believers. All I know is believing to him wouldn't hurt and if it's something that makes me happy having God as someone who I believe as creator of all things. Least, we should just respect everyone's beliefs. I do think both can co-exist at the same thing having faith in God and of course believing in science.
     
    2 people like this.
  5. Dioxis

    Dioxis Getting there

    Joined:
    Feb 14, 2011
    Messages:
    61
    Likes Received:
    11
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Well, i am not here to arque, i do belive in God. If u think that everything is made by itself? well take a look in Kur'an or idk other sacred books, in Kur'an (muslims book if someone dont know ) there, most of stuffs that scientists nowadays discover ( not rly nowadays, but like 200-300 years ago ) it was there, in Kur'an 1431 years ago or smthin like that...u cannot say that ppl wrote it , bcoz then they would know these stuffs 1.5k years ago, wtich they discovered 200-300 years ago. Or if u dont wanna take a look on this by religion, here is example :

    take a look at chain , there allways has to be first '' piece '' of it , on witch everything continiues, so , there has to be something, or someone that created all this. Name it Allah, Jesus or witch ever u want, but there is that being, that created everything.

    Greetings, Celeby, Squeezy ;)
     
  6. Hebihime

    Hebihime Boa Forum Legend

    Joined:
    Aug 12, 2010
    Messages:
    1,644
    Likes Received:
    804
    Trophy Points:
    333
    Location:
    Jakarta
    the six-period interpreted varies, from six days, six periods, up to six stages.
    I m not good on how to express what I mean, But I do believe in my God, As a muslim, I'm still learning my religion and my Al-Qur'an, and it's too early for me to answer or explain anything in Al-Qur'an.
     
    1 person likes this.
  7. Earkiss

    Earkiss Getting there

    Joined:
    Mar 4, 2011
    Messages:
    54
    Likes Received:
    5
    Trophy Points:
    0
    how could you say u dont believed in god if most of the time you utter his name everytime you get upset of something you dont want to happen? like you run out beer in the frige , your boyfriend/girlfriend screw you and you dog pissed on your bed lol^^
     
  8. Autumn

    Autumn Banned

    Joined:
    Jun 28, 2010
    Messages:
    1,630
    Likes Received:
    563
    Trophy Points:
    0
    This is still the order in which it all happened according to every religion that includes Genesis in their book. The order listed is wrong in all of them. Therefore, the book is wrong. Therefore the religions it's based on are, in their very core, wrong.

    I won't tell you there is no god. I'm not foolish enough to sit and say with absolute certainty that there isn't, because there might be. Might be lots of em. But this part of the scripture is proven wrong. With absolute certainty it is most definitely false. Such a crack in the greatest miracle described destroys any credibility it has.

    Faith in a god and heaven and all is great. Taking everything in those books as absolute truth, not so much. Especially the part where no matter how good you are as a person, if you don't believe in the deity described, you are tortured for all eternity in hellfire. Infinite punishment for a finite crime. Your god is evil. The most horrifying evil ever described in any tale. The Bible and the Quran is truly written in the devil's tongue.
     
  9. redlinx30

    redlinx30 Proficient

    Joined:
    Oct 30, 2010
    Messages:
    103
    Likes Received:
    8
    Trophy Points:
    0
    GOD is My Strength and Wisdom
     
  10. cozolinofly

    cozolinofly Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 16, 2010
    Messages:
    1,982
    Likes Received:
    824
    Trophy Points:
    363
    well like i said .. What we cant understand we reject,hate,destroy but of course is your opinion:p
     
  11. Autumn

    Autumn Banned

    Joined:
    Jun 28, 2010
    Messages:
    1,630
    Likes Received:
    563
    Trophy Points:
    0
    A man sneaks into your home. He murders your two daughters in their beds and escapes. No name, no face, no piece of paper listing a reason or motive. Do you understand why he did it? Do you accept that? Are you not infuriated by his actions? Does lack of understanding mean something is right and ok?
     
  12. cozolinofly

    cozolinofly Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 16, 2010
    Messages:
    1,982
    Likes Received:
    824
    Trophy Points:
    363
    Our understanding is limited(i will find no answer to his actions but this will not make me lose my faith in HIM )...and until i die and i will see the thruth nobody will make me believe otherwise.Btw i am not a Fanatic who will sell his house etc etc in the name of GOD
     
    1 person likes this.
  13. Autumn

    Autumn Banned

    Joined:
    Jun 28, 2010
    Messages:
    1,630
    Likes Received:
    563
    Trophy Points:
    0
    You will find no answer to his actions, and yet you will see the truth? You don't understand and yet you will cast all reason to the dirt before you will allow yourself to understand? You see the blue sky above your head and call it green.
     
  14. chin

    chin haters be hatin'

    Joined:
    Aug 9, 2010
    Messages:
    1,476
    Likes Received:
    438
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Location:
    under your bed <:
    i believe in God but i think religion is man made. lol
     
    1 person likes this.
  15. cozolinofly

    cozolinofly Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 16, 2010
    Messages:
    1,982
    Likes Received:
    824
    Trophy Points:
    363
    i said after i die i will find others question:He exist or not: ... and stop now (need to play poker)
     
  16. cozolinofly

    cozolinofly Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 16, 2010
    Messages:
    1,982
    Likes Received:
    824
    Trophy Points:
    363
    funny:))>>
     
  17. chin

    chin haters be hatin'

    Joined:
    Aug 9, 2010
    Messages:
    1,476
    Likes Received:
    438
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Location:
    under your bed <:
    hey cozo <3 remember mew still? haha i k r......... its a complicated world. believing that makes it less complicated so yeah.
     
    1 person likes this.
  18. konichi

    konichi Century Old Artifact

    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2010
    Messages:
    1,022
    Likes Received:
    269
    Trophy Points:
    0
    As much as I want to agree to some of the opinions of the atheist here, attacking one's belief just to justify your point is rude. It's simple, if you don't believe in it then don't, there's no point insisting your philosophical and logical fallacies to someone just to challenge ones faith. You guys said respect the opinion of others but then you are presenting arguments not opinions and those two are completely different. Judging a religion as wrong just because a few verses from the bible which can be interpreted in many ways and also written by man is just plainly wrong. You are committing a "Converse Accident". Also about comparing bible verses vs science take note that most of the scientific outputs about dinosaurs and such are still theories and most of the time these studies are being challenged by other scientist. Like for example there are still uncertainties and new discoveries on the first human settlers on earth etc. etc.
     
    Last edited: Apr 18, 2011
    2 people like this.
  19. Hebihime

    Hebihime Boa Forum Legend

    Joined:
    Aug 12, 2010
    Messages:
    1,644
    Likes Received:
    804
    Trophy Points:
    333
    Location:
    Jakarta
    it's all about interpretation,
    if you want the answer of your questions you need to ask someone that really understood his religion and dig it up really deeply.
    and trust me, it's not that easy to make a conclusion of God and religion. just For an example, many ppl think Alqur'an is written in Arab Language, but you can try to learn arab language or ask arabian ppl, it's really different. It's written in Arab, but it's not, somehow different. May be the same thing happens to bible or others, idk.
    Like I said before I'm not good on how to express and explain what I mean. and yah, my english is kinda crappy too :D. For me, we are just human, God's creature. and I do respect everyone with/without religion.
    this video made me think How "nothing" I am.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEheh1BH34Q
     
  20. Autumn

    Autumn Banned

    Joined:
    Jun 28, 2010
    Messages:
    1,630
    Likes Received:
    563
    Trophy Points:
    0
    I'm not an atheist. An atheist will explain why there is no god. I'm fine with the possibility that there are gods. I even hope there are, if only for confirmation that life doesn't end with the death of our body. But if the major religions are right, that's a very, very scary concept. With that cleared..

    What do you want me to say? Any presented opinion is an attack on opinions that it differs from. It's better to say what you really think rather than skirt around the issue in an attempt to be politically correct. I word my arguments they way I do with an intent. I am trying to offend. If you aren't passionate about your beliefs, your beliefs are fragile. If I can evoke emotion in forcing a defense, it will make you truly think about what I said, and what you will say in response.

    If I said I didn't think belief in the moral system that the religious texts of christians, jews, and muslims presented is an immoral choice, I'd be lying. Lying is, if I recall correctly, a sin.
     
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.

Share This Page