Assasin wild idea.

As mentioned before mboost is useless here because runes damage isn't increased by mboost. I tried this on retail and it isn't bad - except you don't have enough macc to make it actually compare to a full attack build.

I've read that some sins slot macc so they could stun more, but from my experiences changing a couple pieces of armor to macc really makes no noticeable difference. Base macc for a sin using an ABG weapon is 1,095. Most people in games have ~1,500+ mres meaning you'd need to slot ~400macc (or almost all your gear) before you start noticing a really big difference (and don't even think about chain classes that stack mres). This costs a lot of attack.

We have oath of accuracy (on a crappy 5 min cd...) when we need macc.

 

true^^ and also i tested mboost
and not... the demage keeps the same...

 

free bumpz

 

thats why skills like ambush and counter atack are not magical in retail...
no matter if the guy have 600000000000000000 m resist he ll be stuned with ambush and counter atk...

 

On retail, the stun part of ambush/counter is based off macc, while the damage is based off accuracy. I could never stun a full mres cleric with either of those skills (in 1.9 - pvp was dead by 2.0 so I can't really comment about that).

 

i have like 10 friends that play in retail
7 said thats not magical... 3 said that dont know...

 

your friends are wrong. stun is based on m.acc vs m.res in retail for any skills that stun for sins.

 

are u 100 % sure?

 

Offtopic but can u answer me? Someone told me that in official as higher m resist u have u ll earn lower dmg and no like here that or u ll resist it or u ll earn all dmg!!!..... (sorry for my eng, hope u get what i wanna say)!!

 

I have a level 55 sin with 18 months experience and 8.2k kills on retail. I was in the top legion in Zikel and just recently canceled my subscription because pve sucks.

Your friends are wrong. I'm 100 percent sure.

 

Mres does not lower the damage you take at all, it allows you to resist. So you can resist a spell and take no damage or you take full damage from the hit. The damage doesn't scale, it's all or nothing.

against an assassin it is a bit different because some of our skills have damage portions and stun portions. If you have high mres you will "resist" (though it won't say that) the stun but still take the damage.

 

100% correct information.

Pain rune, stun - Is magical attack and can be resisted.
Throw dagger, stun - Is magical attack and can be resisted.
Spiral slash, stun - Is magical attack and can be resisted.
Ambush, stun - Is magical attack and can be resisted.
Binding rune, Aether hold - Is magical attack and can be resisted.

Counter attack, stun - Isn't magical attack and can't be resisted with MR.
Whirlwind Slash, spin - Isn't magical attack and can't be resisted with MR.

Those were all assassins skills. Stuns in general (including other classes) count as magical attacks and can be resisted with MR. Knockbacks and knockdowns are physical attacks and can't be resisted with MR.

Your MR vs Opponents Macc = the chance to resist, 100 resist = 10%

Example: Cleric has 1500 MR. Assassin attacking him has 1000 Macc.

1500 - 1000 = 500 -> 50% chance to resist

http://forums.eu.aiononline.com/eu/showthread.php?t=4040

 

yep - I wasn't sure about counter attack as most of the classes that trigger an evasion don't have high mag res, or they are a chanter with enhancement mantra so I don't know if I'm not stunning because of their mres or their mantra.

I agree with your math on the chance to resist, as it is what I found when researching it. The thing is in game I don't know if this holds up. I remember fighting clerics with 1.8k mag res when I had 1k mag acc - which means they should resist 80% of the time, or I should stun 20% of the time. However after ~10 duels I still never had a stun land (from a rune or ambush, I never had my evasion triggered). Maybe I just have bad luck.

 

you are making those skills sound pure mag acc based. When those three on retail are dodged they do not go to the MR/MA check.

 

is not me.. is a post in retail forum... check the link...