Is this really true about "Middle East" traditional culture/religion?

Subject: Osama Bin Laden & Many others (Armed Groups/Individuals) in same way
Reference: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-13358730

He born as Muslim, grew in/as a very conservative family/environment and at all; he fought (according to him/his supporters) for his religion and killed hundreds in his actions direct or indirect ways at all.

So according to him, he was in jihad which is mentioned as "holy action" according to Islamic literature.

And he has got 5 wives, at least 20 kids, no respect to mother nature/environment nor human being, a true and powerful consumer (trash generator) and a well known terrorist.

According to his abnormal life conditions, can we say clearly "this is the way of a true Muslim and every single Muslim should go in jihad way like him?" or Is this *just* psychopathic?

Nothing offensive here against any religion, I just wanted to learn about "what is really true in a Muslim's point of view about world order."

I wonder "Why this man was feeling NEED to perform terrorism in the way of his believing?" Is his believing ordering that? or He's just an idiot?

If someone with experience/knowledge about his issue will answer, I'll be glad to read... Please analyze my questions and read all carefully before write flammable words. This is just a "serious discussion" about actual world.

 

In the book of muslims, its written that muslims shouild conquer the world . While they are doing this they should kill all the non-beleivers cus they are guilty for NOT beleiving to something horrible.

I am working at Kingdom of Saudi Arabia and i`ve visited nearly all of the muslim countries.. In my opinion the references which i gave is explaining enough..

there was a Vid made by BCN Media one sentence was explaining a lot to me just want to share..

Here are some ref.s you can find much more ^^
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7OYRknGgEc&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64r-iWoTsX8&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZjbJnZUJTYU&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPI3KlDs8pA

im not against any relegion, nor i am a Beleiver.. But if there is something wrong let us see ^^

Best regards.

 

The ignorance in this thread is laughable at... ;o

 

Isn't it weird enough while whole world is discussing this case which is already on every single news channel on TV network but nobody here has even a single word to talk about it.

It seems nobody wants touch fire...

 

It's simple, people stereotype and need a scapegoat. It's pathetic considering America's history of intolerance. It's like saying all Christians are overtly preachy and idiotic cause of one sect of evangelical Christians.

It's a sect of Muslims who interpret the Koran in a different way than most do. And terrorism has a lot to do with Israel and the Middle East. It's not all about religion.

 

It's not a case which can be related with an only a sect of Muslims. Why I've asked that general and wide-scale; because:

1- Pedophilia is a life-norm in Afghanistan/Bangladesh/and some more (I watched on National Geographic and NTV, beside a lot of written materials those result of various kind of research)
Ref-1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEYuajmVgNM
Ref-2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMmr0rDKuP0

2- Terrorism is very wide explainable term and "according to who" part is playing a vital role. But since the known 1300-1400 years of Islamic history is fulfilled with "no peace" at all. This is "not a sect" CakeBaker. Since the prophet's times, to Umayyad, to Ottoman Empire and after all; currently today. Just tell me a country is Muslim and meanwhile support world peace. But Christianity and Judaism; there were sects, and they've learnt a lot from their experiences while building their "TODAY" (i.e. Inquisition period)

3- I'm not calling "all Muslims are terrorists" since it's "impossible" and "stupid" to do it. But if you analyze my "WHYs" you can see what exactly I meant.

 

i lol'd at this opinion, How could you say that? can you tell us which part of Quran teaching a muslim like that. :w00t:

as Cakebreaker said It's a sect of Muslims who interpret the Quran in a different way,
I'm a muslim, and We fight against those ppl who use our religion as their justification. I'm so bad on expressing what I mean, Many ppl are afraid of Muslims because they do not understand about Islam and the terrorists who actually. They are still confused who exactly their enemy is.

 

Dear Uthi.. i am not going to use the same way you used about my post. I am respecting you as a PERSON and i think you dont know enough..

I have traveled more then 16 countries in the world as part of my job. Nowadays im at Kingdom of Saudi Arabia which you can call the CAPITOL of islam.

I have researched enough about all the religions. i think you should also research at least the religion which you are believing.

Here are some points about islam.

Enjoy it.. ( hope you can LOL again after that ^^)

al-Baqarah 191
al-Baqarah 171
al-Araf 179
Tevbe 28
Furkan 44
Hucurat 49/1-49/2-49/3
Kehf 80(Special!!!!)
Azhab 6

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Unstable parts

1)Hicr 30/31/32...39
2)Isra 61/62/63/64

part 1 and part 2 is telling the same story with different issues i think muslims god a little confused

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World is NOT eliptic up to quran
Muslims god thinks the world is plain so if you will go to the WEST enough you will see the place where the sun is sinking

Ref: Quran / Kehf 86

 

sure, i'm still loling at that, that's what i was talking about, just like those terorists, some ppl failed to read/interpret a whole Quran, they took some parts or sentences and ignore the explanation of terms and conditions, and they made it as their justification.
Even you travelled a whole world doesnt mean you know exactly, for me, My religion is from God, and we re just human, his creation with limitation. and as what I said, I'm not good on expressing what I mean, but trust me, that's not what a true muslim is. ^^

ps: you sure it's a real Quran?
There's no Tevbe in Quran o.o
Kehf, correction: AL KAHFI
furkan, correction: AL FURQAAN
Hucurat, Correction: AL HUJURAAT
Hicr, correction: AL HIJR

well, you know better than me tho.

 

Agree with this.... i am not an expert on Muslin religion, but to my understanding is a religion that originally speak of peace. But its has, as most religions, different interpretations, and some are more extremist than others.

And if we think in the term "terrorist", it means bluntly, someone that creates/causes terror... if so, Reagan and Gorvachov in their time where the greatest terrorist ever with their doomsday buttons. What I mean is that its easy to use scapegoats towards a religion to explain the behavior of a madman.

 

i don't think i will trust to someone who LOLs to my opinions )
as i said before im not against any religion. Nor i am a Believer. But i have experienced the muslim life style more then enough. And your explanation is not enough to change my mind.

There is much more about islam to say. But this is not the place to talk about it. I gave some youtube links, did you watched them Uthi ?

 

read again my post my friend, there are so many interpretations about something that came from God, we re just human, you said that you know exactly some religions and come to a conclusion that makes me lol, i'm sorry but it's too... umm, idk how to say it in english ^^. lemme give an example about jihad, jihad means you fight for god and for your religion (simple explanation). but the question is, Did God ask you to kill innocent ppl, or to suicide your self with a bom then blow it in a public place? what is the meaning of fight in jihad. and some ppl interpret it in false way bcs They're too noob to understand their religion.
there are some terrorist organizations in indonesia too, suicide them self with a bom, many innocent kids died, and we fight them bcs We wanna show the world that they arent true muslim, they just use Islam as their justification for their revenge, Revenge with what? idk bcs i dont want to make conclusion of something that i dont understand exactly yet.

Ps: i ll tell you latest terrorism action in Indonesia, A terrorist who called himself a muslim and doing jihad with a bom in his body, explodes himself in a Masjid, Many Ppl was praying there. (Masjid for muslim= Church for Christian)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdmuOiM20U4&feature=related

what I want to say is, that's not what a true muslim is.

 

We're in the 21th century and people still believe in religion. Evolution fail;

 

Muhammad wrote the quarn and then gave it to the people. Once again he left and as is un avoidable with all religion corrupt people found a way to benefit from it or make a profit. It's to be assumed that with all religious tradition/writings it's original messages/values were thrown out the window as people twisted it. After all most "holy books" are not written in the literal sense anyway that would just give us humans "all the right answers and help us cheat on the big exam".
I am in no way saying what is stated can be proven (unless you do alot of research on it) if you just take it with a few grains.
I am after all part of no religious group or cult because of such corruption and twisted natures.

 

owww no no no there is deffenetly wrong to kill or hurting each other! and "jihad" is not about war/killing! well, the terorist is just random bad ppl.. and they r not muslim!! they are evil

 

Better ready a pale of water beside your PC/laptop............

before a flame eats up your house...............


pls......... don't bring this kind of SH*ts here.................

>__________<

the world is already in chaos.........
dnt bring it here........>_______<

 

Terrorist is not simply a random woman or man dear. It is more than a huge organization which has very complex connections with even governments, religious groups or civil populations. Terrorism isn't that simple...

The subjects; are not that innocent.

 

theres Islamic terrorism. You are obviously not talking about that kind of terrorism.You cant deny the fact that most of terrorists are muslims

 

I dont get it how you people can talk about something u dont understand anddont have enough facts to talk about it, specially bringing such a topic to a place where should be free from all that crap that is going on in world.. if u see in history of man kind religion has caused problem for years and years, caused so many wars and so many deaths of innocent people. Its simply becose of peoples selfishness not becose god told them or wrote in a "book" (and i m not only talking about muslims, christians are just the same, if u dont know the history do some reading). U know how weak human mind is? There are sects all over the world beliving in all kind of stuff and come from all kind of backgrounds not only the muslim ones, doing about the same thing as u hear on tv that terrorist are doing but its just not that much OUT in media as terrorists and muslims. And many of suicide bombers hasnt killed them self becose of religion they did it becose of protesting against something but media puts it there as oh another muslim killed him self to hurt others, how much ever wrong it is what they do, and poor innocent people that get to pay the price, media has no right to blame one religion becose of peoples stupiditys GOD dont make people do evil things People simply are evil. Media has made muslim religion it self look so bad becose of the same reason that u people are talking here,, NOT having enough facts, and not understanding.

can u please close this thread now?

 

agree....................