Everyones at it.

Obvious subject, what are your thoughts on the legal & illegal drug abuse? I've been there and I'm happy to be over it.



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The lyrics;
I don't know much,
But I know this for certain,
That is the sun,
Poking its head round the curtain.

Now please can we leave,
I'd like to go to bed now.
It's not just the sun,
That is hurting my head now.

I'm not trying to say,
That I'm smelling of roses,
But when will we tire,
Of putting shit up our noses.

I don't like staying up,
Staying up past the sunlight.
It's meant to be fun,
And this just doesn't feel right.

Why can't we all,
All just be honest,
Admit to ourselves,
That everyone's on it.

From grown politicians,
To young adolescents,
Prescribing themselves,
Anti-depressants.

How can we start to tackle the problem,
If you don't put your hands up,
And admit that you're on them.

The kids are in danger,
They're all getting habits,
Because from what I can see,
Everyone's at it.

I get involved,
But I'm not advocating.
Got an opinion,
Yeah, you're well up for slating.

So you've got a prescription,
And that makes it legal.
I find the excuses,
Overwhelmingly feeble.

You go to the doctor,
You need pills to sleep in.
Well if you can convince him,
Then I guess that's not cheating.

So your daughter's depressed,
We'll get her straight on the prozac.
But little do you know,
She already takes crack.

Why can't we all,
All just be honest,
Admit to ourselves,
That everyone's on it.

From grown politicians,
To young adolescents,
Prescribing themselves,
Anti-depressants.

How can we start to tackle the problem,
If you don't put your hands up,
And admit that you're on them.

The kids are in danger,
They're all getting habits,
Because from what I can see,
Everyone's at it.

Why can't we all,
All just be honest,
Admit to ourselves,
That everyone's on it.

From grown politicians,
To young adolescents,
Prescribing themselves,
Anti-depressants.

How can we start to tackle the problem,
If you don't put your hands up,
And admit that you're on them.

The kids are in danger,
They're all getting habits,
Because from what I can see,
Everyone's at it.

 

Theres nothing wrong with weed in my opinion, its a pain killer and a soother, and no one has ever died directly from weed. Other drugs such as cocaine, crack, heroin, and all the other good stuff should remain illegal and stop being abused. Except acid... cause thats just fun

 

See, I don't see how marijuana is that much of a problem, unless society deems laziness and unproductiveness "real problems" (which they kinda are, but compared to other things we're facing, they aren't).

I mean, there ARE robbing stoners, but they are very rare compared to the happy and chillax ones.

 

Meh, if you're close to me, I'll try to help you stop. Like the person above me demonstrated, there is extreme naivety about drugs in general, that they aren't "bad." Steroids aren't linked to any deaths also, do you want to tell me they aren't harmful? Granted marijuana isn't as bad as any of those other drugs, I would say it can be related quite similarly to tobacco.

If you aren't close..this'll sound bad, but go ahead and do whatever you want. You'll end up fulfilling the "survival of the fittest" eventually...unless we take on universal healthcare and social welfare -.-. Not a social darwinist...but it's true.

On topic, glad you got over your problem . It's good to hear about nowadays.

 

No doubt anything taken to extreme will result in harm to that person.

 

Just stay away from it is my philosophy. Life was meant to be enjoyed while sober, and if you need to turn your brain to mush to enjoy it...well then you need to take a moment and be introspective.

But you're statement is so true. ANYTHING, if done in excess, is bad. I played so many sports that my joints were completely trashed. Now I've stopped completely but I still go to the gym. To think, doing something which is healthy for you in excess is extremely unhealthy...its stupid -.-.

 

California is a weed state, and I've yet to see any serious problems caused by stoners.

I don't smoke pot, nor will I ever be doing that, but what good has the War on Drug brought about? Almost nothing. Spending for the program has been spiraling out of control, and drug lords are sitting on piles of money and more powerful than ever, all because of the regulations that were put into effect by the WOD.



Insert obligatory correlation to Prohibition Era here.

 

Most money spent is not on stopping potheads, its in rehab. And you have a huge number increase in people doing drugs. Not only is that counterintuitive, but it's harmful to their health. Also, if you look at it from a socio-economic viewpoint, it won't stop organized crime. In fact, due to price elasticities for various drugs, all it will do is push most gangs to peddle harder drugs and laced drugs.

Also, look at LA, the scummiest city in the US. I don't think legalization fixed a damn thing ;o

 

I know i will still do drugs on occasion, and by occasion i mean a couple times a year. But like the song states, for many people including the old me, drug abuse is a lifestyle.
To be honest, I'm battling with ADHD since I was a kid, i never took medicine, instead i went on coke binges for a period hoping i'd get cured, that was just silly of me. I ended up having more problems than I had before, not only emotionally but on more of a serious level, physically.
Not even once it helped me to be more productive like i hoped for.

 

While I don't smoke and it definitely isn't good when you use too much, I don't see what the problem is with smoking weed every now and then. So long as you do it safely and in moderation. I find it extremely hypocritical how many ppl go on about how weed is so bad when cigarette companies put poisonous and harmful chemicals in their cigarettes just so they can get the right combination to get people addicted to them. And 1/3 of the all cigarettes are made from old broken down cigarettes that never got sold at the stores or from tobacco and other stuff that fell on the floor during production. Yeah thats extremely sanitary. At least weed is pure and doesn't have that awful extra crap.

 

Weed is not always pure, nothing is pure. You think they don't put chemicals in it? Oh i know they do.

 

Let people do whatever they want with drugs. If they die then it helps lower the over population of Earth.

 

Speaking of health effects, this is interesting.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped..._(mean_physical_harm_and_mean_dependence).svg

According to this scale, marijuana's chemical contents are safer than tobacco. How come tobacco doesn't receive all that negative attention marijuana has?



Although I agree that any kind of smoke is bad if it's put inside your lungs.

 

What? Do some research -.-.

Plus, it's only cause of the proliferation of facts about tobacco that people make this point now. Weed can be just as harmful. The only reason cigarettes are legal is cause it's a big business founded from the conception of the United States. Kinda like slavery (just the idea of "tradition," not in terms of being wrong on the moral spectrum).

I'll just say this, as long as you don't try to legalize it, as long as it isn't in my face, and as long as you aren't someone who I care about, you can do whatever you want. I'm not going to try and moralize some random person, that's not right.

I have my own views, and I'm not some extremist who says "kill all the drug users, control the population and get rid of the scum" kinda thing because people abuse drugs for all sorts of reasons. I try to help those I know though, which is the right thing to do, way better than being an enabler.

 

Cause marijuana has instant euphoric effects. That freaks out the Governments.

 

At least they don't have to lie about it like they did tobacco.

I'm afraid weapons will take care of the non-smokers even faster.

 

Wikipedia is extremely unreliable. Marijuana contains about 50-70% more carcinogens than tobacco. Although it doesn't have tar, which makes it better. But it can still be just as harmful.

I think that eventually drug education will be much better than it is right now, and like the Ablazed put it, let people do whatever they want. That's my mantra with drug users, just as long as I don't care about them.

I'm done here, cause I can get pretty worked up about the issue cause of previous events in my life. Its extremely naive to think its not harmful ;(

 

Now this is something that needs to be fixed ASAP

 

Grace Slick and her art exhibit at the Artexpo in Las Vegas, September 29, 2007
Rock and Roll icon Grace Slick recently did an interview with Leah Pietrusiak of Time Out Chicago and spoke about trying to slip then President of the United States Richard Nixon some acid.
Leah: Okay, tell me about trying to slip Richard Nixon acid at the White House.
Grace Slick: See, Trish Nixon’s daughter went to Finch College, and it was so small that she invited all of the alumni to a tea at the White House. But my name when I went there was Grace Wing, that doesn’t mean anything right? Now, Grace Slick meant something.
So I get an invitation to the White House and I call up Abbie Hoffman and say [Sing-songy] “Guess what I have….I’ve got an invitation to the White House.” So I put 600 mics of acid under a long fingernail I had for cocaine, and we go and we’re standing in line, and the security guard comes up to me and says, “I’m sorry you can’t go in. You’re a security risk.” And I go, “What?!” And he says, “You’re on the FBI list.” And I go, “What?!?!” And I found out that the members of Jefferson Airplane were on a list because of “suspect lyrics.”
They didn’t know why I was a security threat, but they were right.

 

Everything is harmful when taken in extremity, we all agree about that.

*chop chop, Cake has left, thread is done*

Like, the problem needs to be fixed, or I have to fix my statement :?