Gamez Economy

I dont know why prices changed rapidly,we started getting 3-4 sets for 1k vip some months ago,now the prices are kinda better i guess,1k vip=1 set? But still,i really wonder where did people get those mastarius sets? Dude those are worth 2k per piece and i dont really know anyone who would go and spend his 2k for masta instead of ABG..so where did we get those masta sets? Market full of them,my guess? Dupes.

About the new comers i have to tell you that the instances are so easy,a cleric can solo a full instance in my opinion,but of course not with a green or blue set. I agree that the server is not really friendly to new comers and if someone who is new start questing he ll spend lots of time getting 1 billion kinah. But check the broker the items are worth 1b each. Where did we get so much kinah ? I really wonder lol. Is there a kinah machine in this server? Cause doing quests you dont really get billions,just millions. And who is doing quest in gamez?Rofl no one i guess. Selling items in the npc gives you few thousands of kinah. My guess? Duped kinah. Kinah bug or whatever. Server full of kinah,there are people who have trillions. If i need kinah i ll just sell some manastones for a billion each and voila i got 10 bil by selling 10 manastones D:

And last thing,i notice that many people stay in sanctum dueling or chatting,whats up with that? Thats totally boring.

I ll make a small edit: I would like to say that abg is over-rated in gamezaion. Because for 1 abg accessory you can get 1 mastarius set. So my guess would be that abg is 25 times better than mastarius set...Not really. If you know how to play you can win abg users with anuhart. Im not saying that abg isnt the best,yes its the best set in general but the difference isnt 25 times better than masta or egt.

 

well they strive to what they wanted in Gamez before the update began, PVP, and since pvp flunked after the update, they just duel or like stand there and talk to their friends.

 

I think the reason behind the abg + add is because well 1 lets look at the classes that are play the most 1 for sure is glad dont worry im a glad 2 and i have to say theres a lot of us so its easier to find a abg plate/ leather set than finding a chain / cloth set thats why most of the time people trading chain or cloth as for adds. sure i do agree trades of abg should be abg to abg but ;3 lets face it not everyones think the same way.

 

Masta and ABG cost the same in shop.... but it has a different value for those ingame that cant access the money cost of the shop. So of course, the seller will see this and he/she will want to obtain a profit for something he knows in the lower field of the market cost more.

I dont know what can be done in that sense... Same it can be said with the holidays shops items... MCD and NHDE costed the same as any ABG item in normal shop... but the ingame market price is different as well the costumes that only costed 500 credits... but they ask for them a really good offer... sometimes equal to a Masta or Veille item that cost 2k.

About the scrollsand broker items... thats just greed plain and simple.

Haters are gonna hate, but one solutions is to make some items fully untradeable... no matter how vip or exclusive you are... As long the ABG items are on the market the economy will have the same disparity because of its ingame market value.

At least is what I think.

 

I couldn't agree more.

Weeks ago, a friend of mine was trying to help me out get myself a Lucky wings. We're offering ABG Tome+15 for it. For a fair trade, my offer isn't bad at all since if we look at the credits spent, it's all equal. We tried to buy 2k VIP Credits, or the Lucky wings itself but we ended up giving up because of the unknown greediness (?) of the sellers. For their lucky wings they want: My ABG Tome+another weapon+remodel from easter shop, and MORE! I was like, "Seriously??".

But since my friend and I are so desperate, we tried to add. ABG Tome+1k awakening+cute swimsuit original, still... None grab it. But I don't feel bad at all if they don't like the offer or something. I understand that business is business. Some here sell items not because they badly need the offer, but because they want bigger profit.

I am very happy now that I have my most wanted Lucky wings. I was able to make a fair trade with a legion-mate and a friend of mine.

What I learned from that scenario was, if you know to yourself that you can't get a fair trade when it comes on buying the item you want, you better work hard for it. Besides, you can have everything you need, it's just a matter of time.

If we're talking about going to instances, for newbies, I simply suggest to go with Cleric. My husband goes Udas alone with his cleric. And with those runs, he managed to sell some udas items in the broker. And we earned many Kinah from that. We also go Taloc's to farm manastones and sell it. And now that Aethers can be bought in the NPC, I learned to craft my own scrolls. I'm going Taloc's to farm some materials too, also DP if I don't have jelly to morph.

This forum welcomes new comers' FAQ's. They just have to feel free making threads to ask.

 

the demands.. if u really dying to get that set.. yeah u can always add or the other can always ask for add since he dont want a trade that you do..

its the demands that counts..

for ex.

nowadays there is 40 % glad in the server.. lets say cleric is 5 % so the abg chain is lesser than the plate ones..

so to get abg chain nowadays with fair trade is hard to deal with you can add an extra item so that the other clerics would want to trade there abg sets..

 

Thats what you think, the staff is not giving up....So I will gladly disagree with you on this one...

Any MMO you play will have an decrease and increase in prices whether its trading or any other way...

Its called supply and demand. You also need to educate yourself on bargaining... Any price is negotiable, its up to you to do the bargaining to pay for what you want....

Even if we do wipe everything, the prices will be just as they are now in a few mos. So i don't think that is the best solution....

Its up to you the players to also help in this process and not put it all on the staff to make a change. The economy got this way because of you, the players. So unless we form up as a whole, bump heads and say "hey this needs to be fixed" it will never get better...

 

Your soo cute but you say the darn true >.<

 

then the problem is on the website


http://main.gamezaion.com :=

 

Well, not exactly... you can sell whatever you want wherever you want. The problem is always the rights to re-sell something... In game there are not the same rules of market prices and bargainings, copyrights and a long etc, as in the real world. And thats why I think one solution is to enforce those rights with the tradeable untradeable locks.

You will find greedy people everywhere, and good will and good speeches wont change that... thats why there are rules to follow in market systems.

 

..its like what i always say "greedy b@stard!!!" ..really?..what will you all do with 4sets masta, 6masta weapons, 2abg sets,2 sets abg acc?..really??..really now??..wth!..i was looking for a veille leather pauldrons in game and i was trading my egt cloth set for that..seriously, what does egt set cost in game 2m ap 200pcs medals..ap isnt that easy nowadays and medals pffft medals..ok lets go to the website, 1.5k ea egt/eat part plus u need vip and im only asking for veille pauldrons..geezz!!..and i was asked to add more!..holy cr@p!..i dont know why people ingame gets so greedy over things that they dont need and oh guess what they want to profit more on the trade..guess life isnt fair huh?

 

I agree that the problem comes from players. Thats true and I never said that Staff caused it >_<"

The thing is all started with upgrade to v1.9... Back then every player with IQ above 75 could dupe scrolls/ sets/ medals/ weapons/ manastones/ godstones etc.. It was the 3-week paradise for all in Gamez: No control! So, players wheer duping and selling the duped items cheap, really cheap in big amounts = profit? Yeh, it was for them but not for server. This is what fk'ed up Gamez economy.

As I can recall Alente was the one who wiped kinah/ medals -twice- and even used kinah cap at 30billions per toon in game. After we had the fix -thanks to Asanka- for dupes but the damage was already done and economy was never the same before.

After that, when server upgraded to v2.0 and v2.1 the duping continued and all plauers were happy hippos once again ^^" I know many friends who admitted to me that they used to dupe scrolls/ sets/ medals and resell 'em for normal prices = profit?

Yeh, the problem seems to come from players but isn't it Staff's fault (-mostly Devs'-) for letting people to dupe non stop. We are all aware that most Mast sets are duped, aren't we Bella? What I can see now is that Staff just gave up -looking at the candy shop- and follow the flow to see where the econome will go...

I don't accuse only Staff, but players as well for the nowdays economy in Gamez. The sad thing is that the suggestion section is untouched by Admins. Just take a look and see how many solid suggestions there are for economy fix, if some of them would be applied Im sure that the problem would be kinda solved by now instead of becoming worse and worse day by day.

Please dude, let me give you the award of the best ass kisser ever in Gamez history ^^"

 

Bold Black Part - The devs can only do soo much fix the dupe... I know Carl was looking for one that would work with the current duping method being used. So there's more to it then putting blame on the Devs.. Duping may be a huge issue, but the bugs are a more major issue...

Bold Red Part - You just turned a completely calm discussion in to a flame thread... This comment was not necessary.... There are some people who appreciate the staff, and just cause they choose to flaunt it, doesn't make them an ass kisser...

 

nice thread... good topic to talk,
i left gamez 3 month ago for studying, then when i came back 70% is change.. before this Anuheart and taha is popular.. we can see them in broker.. now they gone.. before this we can see many ppl open privt store and selling every junk they have.. now they gone...i miss all that @@ and 1 more thing.. what happend to mastarius set? the price is geting DOWN crazyly.. only for 1K cradit ppl want 2 set of masta+15.. thats is crazy.. each masta parts is worth 2K cradit don't how we ern it from donate or voting it still worth 2K cradit same as ABG.. ok i know ABG is on the top, its PVP eq, only VIP account can trd it.. but think of this : 1 ABG sword can trd 3 SET of masta worth for 30K cradit? omg.. if i am the admin i will set ABG in special cradit shop which only ppl Donate with real money can get the special cradit for ABG stuff. then we can say ABG is the expensive item in the sever.. whew..thats all sorry for bad english XD

 

Like i said earlier, its a supply and demand thing.. most everybody has their abg or mastarius set for one or all of there toons so it not as much of a wide need... Plus people know how to bargain .... gotta give and take to get what you need..

 

Dead?

Have you seen the zergs that happen on a daily basis?

 

Again, whos fault are the existing major bugs?

Believe me that duping/ hacking is more important than some major bugs you refer to and please do state your opinion with valid arguements like posting the bugs you are talking about and not generaly. Bugs exist and always will exist because of poor work done over coding but duping/ hacking are like virus that kills any game slowly to the end.

Bold as much as you want but I remember being YOU the one who were forcing members in past to follow the rules, am I wrong here?

Look here:

See what I mean? He broke the rules but no, you won't warn him for that. Instead you thanked him and even defend now.

Gurl, please make me a favor and learn what Moderator means on forum.

 

ya you are right.. this is also happend in real life XD

 

@Velo, don't apologize for your bad english, at least you tried. trying improves, practice makes perfect.

 

thx

thanks bro