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Dallas vs heat game 5

Discussion in 'Old Threads' started by nametaken, Jun 9, 2011.

  1. JHeezy

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    Rose shot 6% when he had LBJ defending him. That occured mainly in the 4th quarters. Pretty sure the refs weren't responsible for that.

    Face it, take Rose outta the roster and they're a little better version of the Cleveland Cavaliers minus LeBron. Kyle Korver didn't just collapse mentally, he straight up panicked. Remember the last 10 seconds of Game 5? He ran around like a chicken with his head cut off. The entire time I was wondering what in the hell it was he was doing/trying to do. 60 wins in the regular season don't mean anything when you get whacked 4 straight in the ECF.

    Sad how the Bulls just dropped almost max money on Boozer but he's sitting on the bench when the games on the line.

    The Bulls are young, they have a bright future. They need a real 2, and get Boozer committed on defense.


    I don't like the Heat myself, but people are crazy to think Dallas has the upper hand in the Finals.
     
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    go go go go go go! Los angeles lakers rofl :d
     
  3. CakeBaker

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    Rose choked, I'll give you that, but he's 22 and he'll get better. And the thing is, Rose could easily beat LeBron on a drive, but he kept taking jump shots. Thibs also didn't change up the game plan after Game 2...which he def should have. Korver plain sucked at defense and was cold on offense, no clue why they kept putting him in the game...and Boozer...was Boozer. But Noah and Deng are great players, Asik is a strong center, and they have Taj Gibson. It's a lot better than the Cavs, they have extreme depth, they just need a second option, and I do agree with you there.

    They didn't get "whacked" since all the games except the first one were close. And game 5, that 4 point play that was clearly an offensive foul...? That was the refs fault. As was that slew of 4-5 fouls in a minute or so. I don't believe in the dumb conspiracy theories that state that Stern wanted the two teams with the biggest markets to play in the Finals, but I do think the refs helped the Heat a lot, and you can see that just looking at free throw attempts, which were the only reason the Heat won. I do agree that despite that the Bulls should have won, but failed on execution, but meh.

    As for your final comment, no doubt the Mavs are the underdog, but what you are witnessing is a team collapsing on itself due to Queen James. It's a little late, but still the same old story. Tonight, you will see him try to prove the media and fans wrong. Either he will succeed, or he will fail miserably and cost his team the game.
     
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    Also, Rose has that drive that MJ had and that Kobe Bryant was developing but that which Queen James lacked. Wait till next season, I have a feeling he will shock everyone. And who knows what the Bulls will obtain, but I do think that they will get a Scottie for Rose.

    The Heat, on the other hand, if they lose now, it will just cause an internal collapse. I have a feeling they might become a laughing stock soon enough ;P
     
  5. JHeezy

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    Calls are missed all the time. You can't base the outcome of an entire series on a 3 minute span. But yeah, that 4pt play by Wade should have never happened. Doesn't take away from the collapse that happened after. Doesn't change the fact Thibs couldn't figure a way to counter LBJ on Rose. That adjustment single handedly murdered the Bulls. I hate the fact Spoelstra's been getting credit for that though. Worst head coach ever. Can't blame Thibs for that either, the Bulls only have one late game option.

    Imagine what might've happened if you guys still had Ben Gordon. Thank Joe Dumars, signing Gordon and Charlie V to the two of the worst contracts of the decade.

    I'm not entirely convinced Rose can "easily" beat LBJ on a drive either. if that was the case, the Bulls wouldn't have lost Game 4. Nor would you see such a huge discrepancy in the free throw numbers. I don't think Rose choked, he just couldn't do a damn thing against LBJ due to physical limitations. LBJ is a freak of nature.

    You wanna know why I compared the Bulls to the Cavs? Take away their star and they couldn't score if their lives depended on it. Doesn't matter how great of a defense your team has if you can't put points up on the board.

    Sure, Noah and Deng are good, role players, Give 'em the ball in the post/iso respectively and prepare to cringe. Boozer died the second he left Utah. Asik you can easily replace. I like Gibson, I think he's three years away from really making an impact. But that only covered 5 players in the Bulls' rotation. They got a huge hole in the 2-guard position and they swap 3 one-dimensional players to cover a need in the given moment.

    Don't get it twisted though, I like the Bulls. They're a scrappy team which you can respect. I personally think they went above and beyond expectations this year and with the right moves, they're gonna be a dangerous team. I mean, there's no denying DRose is sick.


    As for the Finals, the Mavs are no doubt the underdog. But they got veteran experience, an underrated coach, and that 7ft German monster. I don't think there's anybody in the league that's still active that can defend Dirk man-to-man. Maybe KG...5 years ago. I can't explain what's going on with LBJ, but I don't think its fair to say the teams collapsing solely because of him. Nor is it fair to call him a choke. Remember the '05 ECF? When LeBron single-handedly carried the Cavs to the Finals? How about this years ECF? That 10 point barrage he unleashed on the Bulls to steal Game 4 (I think?) People just hate on him for the way he left Cleveland, but who cares? I doubt you'd be hating on him if he said "Windy City" instead of "South Beach." I don't agree with "The Decision", talking about 8 titles, or having a parade before the season even started. But damn, lay off the guy a little bit.
     
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    Damn, your argument was objective and cogent :(. Can't counter it. I'm a Chicago Bulls fan to the death, so yeah ;). But I hate LeBron, and will always hate him. He tainted his legacy. People are quick to forget that he even tried to threaten people over Twitter and is a huge attention hoe. He wants to be MJ, and he isn't. The powder, the celebration, the 8 championships. It's very easy to dislike the guy.

    We shall see what happens tonight. Dirk is a machinee, he deserves the ring more than James
     
  7. JHeezy

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    Hey, at least your team got to the conference finals. I bleed purple and gold, it was almost sickening to watch the embarrassment of a series against Dallas. Not to mention Kobe lost about two and a half steps.

    Here's the thing about LeBron; I don't think its fair to hold everything against the guy. He's been pretty much hailed and praised as God's gift to basketball ever since he was a kid. With that came all sorts of media attention, they televised high school ball games nationally because of the guy. So in a sense, you can argue that his persona, as it stands currently, has been groomed by the media. Can you really blame the guy for the way he acts now? He's been in the spotlight for probably more than half his life, so it does make sense to some degree that he craves the attention. Even with the whole transition from Cleveland to Miami, I didn't agree with the way he handled it, but ever since then he's been under the microscope, being criticized for every little thing. I don't know, maybe it's just me. I don't really see a reason to view athletes as more than just athletes and LeBrons one of those guys you won't see come around for another 10 years. I know no real fan of basketball can really say the Miami Heat are no fun to watch. What other team is gonna convert on a full court alley-oop pass?

    I feel the same way about Kobe, people spent so much energy hating on the guy, I think he's gone under appreciated, especially outside of LA. Kobe's probably the closest thing to Jordan and while I know he's not the most personable guy out there, he's one of the greatest players to ever step on the court.

    At the end of it all, people forgive and forget the downfalls of winners. If LeBron ends his career with a handful of rings, nobody's going to try to discredit him during his retirement press conference for joining forces with Wade and Bosh.

    As much as I want Dallas to win, I don't see it happening.
     
  8. Raptorz

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    aw my gosh.

    Miami Heat ofc ! are u kidding me xD

    MVP are Derrick Rose - Miami Heat and Nowitzki - Dallas Maverick..
    :tongue:
     
  9. JHeezy

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    But Rose plays for the Bulls.

    Yubtrippin?
     
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    Dallas leading the 4th. and i think they'll win this game.
    Dirk has been unstoppable @ 4th Qrts... heat cant stop him
     
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    Heat! Heat heat! :)
     
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    o shiz.. heat had a run.. 96-95 now heat lead. 5 mins to go.


    edit 5 mins later.
    kidd then terry hit 2 big 3s......
    its over. its clear now... Dallas will take game 5. 3-2 lead...
     
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    There is no such thing as a Heat fan. I LOL'd at Charles Barkley's comments.

    Also, I REITERATE because it is SOOO true

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    Call it Karma if you like, but LeBron James will be doing some crying soon.
     
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    whoever is betting, i'd suggest you go bet to the team who had the most times spent in finals between the two...

    most of the time new comers tend to break down and loose composure... ending they will loose no matter how talented the players are.
     
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    Nahh...its not experience. Both Wade and James have plenty of that.
     
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    but they always break down in finals...
     
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    Dallas won, was a fkn fantastic game :D
     
  18. JHeezy

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    That why Wade took Dirk in '06?

    Good game. I thought LeBron would respond with all that talk in the media...guess not.
     
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    heat still has the greatest percentage of breaking down than Dallas.
     
  20. JHeezy

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    Considering the two teams have only been to the finals twice in the last 25+ years right?
    Oh, they also ended up playing each other both times.
    What percentage is it that you're talking about?
     

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