A Thread for Evilset

First of all, I'd like staff don't close this thread like Noonie's or blisblis's "unnecessarily".

Since the morning, I'm testing with different other ABG classes in different builds.

2.2k Magical Accuracy/2.6k Magic Boost ABG Sorceress attacked to 2.6k MR ABG Templar / Min. damage by Soul Freeze was 727 and non-critted. Sorceress stayed up with 2.3k MA for 1 minute (Magic Boost) -and- here's the most ironic part of issue 272 Critical-hit damage with no-skill Tome damage.
Result: Killed in 13-15 secs. and finished his total 18k HP in Aether Armor/Iron Skin/Empryan Armor.

Difference between my MA and Templar's MR = 0.3k

And tried with my Assassin (Yes, Assassin! and don't tell me "Gosh, another Sin thread")
ABG Sin with 2.3k Accuracy and 763/756 Attack attacked to 2.6k Phy.Def. ABG Templar / Max. damage by weaving on Critical Hit: ~160, normal attack by weaving ~65 'which is lower than my Sorc's no-skill Tome damage.' and Max. damage via "Deadly Focus I" (Attack become: 1.5k!) Crit-weaving 540 for 10 seconds. Which is 2x of my Tome damage.

My Sin's default evasion: 2.1k (was 2.9k now, more f.cked up)
My Sin's default Magic Acc: 1095 < Can not even "simply" stun someone with 1.5-1.6k MR because Sin's all stunning/aether skills are Magic based. MR can avoid it.
My Sin's default MR: 1.5k (ABG Leather default) sucks at all.

Tell me Evilset, while my TOME is hitting lower as my full ATK Sword "how can I" remove any of my ATK+5 stone and put MA+14 stones instead? To make my attack 20-30? 65 attack is very deadly according to you I guess ha? That's why you'd nerfed I guess, and full ABG SM has 1.7k Evasion... This is what you call "the most evasive class"?

Only 400 Evasion difference between full ABG Leather Assassin and full ABG Cloth SM.

This is "class balance" I guess. I don't want to talk rude and stop closing threads please.

It is not QQ; Sin is totally f.cked up in this game and you're still closing threads who talking against those all. Sorry for my rude behavior, but I didn't pay a lot of money for Evilset's crap.

As usual, from all updates Plate class jumping as winner!

Now SM is only slowing his target/removing buffs and sending XX amount of servants while each servant hits 400 (4 servants in total, those following you as hell in 25m range) (more than my 4x more than my sword and Servants are not ending up in 10 seconds you smart.)

Assassin can't stun/aether (the only CC of Sin) = 1.5-1.6k+ MR without Oath of Accuracy (and its lasting 20secs, after 20secs you need to wait 5m for "to be able" to stun another target) otherwise I must chose Anuhart targets. If I remove ATK+5 and put MA+14, I'll be able to stun my target and avoid his runs like rabbit with ironically LOW damage.

@The Ablazed; I'm not talking about Your Sin is still raping others. You must understand, this class is f.cked up... While others performing high damage even w/their lowest and uber fast CD skills. Sin is performing joke-like damage.

Evilset is just failed on Assassin. Please kindly recheck what you've done Evilset.

I don't want to be a Templar/SM or whatever class. I want to continue enjoying my Sin if you care a little bit.

@Staff: Until Sin problem will be solved, you all continue to see more Sin threads around. So please stop closing them. Let people talk.

 

WTT> ABG Plate set for ABG Cloth set!

 

add abg hat and i deal ^_^ wrong section

 

The 2.5 updates are like 7days away... According to Evilset, the values are fixed in that core.
I saw a couple values about assassin's off & main hand damage and so on and they seemed to be all right.

So, just be patient, aight?

 

Meanwhile: Don't forget that other classes have Root, Speed reducer, Attack speed reducer, Wings folder etc. since Sin has nothing but Binding rune and Pain rune those already based on Magic Accuracy.

So with Sin; if you want to run on battle-field, you've no CC. Only at every 5m or attack low gears.

 

i have to totally agree to that. i've tested stuff with raintech and even my templar with 2.7k accuracy couldn't hit a simple ranger with like 2k evasion.. i'm getting tired of this nonsense.

you want retailish balance? then don't **** up every single "update" it's more a downgrade.

/sign into this

 

I would say that the updates made to the sin class's base stats would be acceptable if, along with what has been done to lower the sin's base damage on auto attacks and base evasion, sin's magical accuracy was raised to account for the insane amount of base mres other classes get... my fully geared abg sin has about 1095 magical accuracy, to my knowledge every class fully abg, regardless of what they socket, is going to have 1500+ MR (mres socketer's will have around 2100-2350), which mean's alot of the assassin's utility (skills like blinding burst, even ambush) almost never land. Sin's are supposed to be a combination of high burst damage through a barrage of high attack speed hits, and single target disables (cc) through stuns/blind/aether hold, etc. What you've done is lower the assassin's damage to a more acceptable level, while lowering their survivability vs melee classes, in addition to diminishing the utility of their disables to nothing. In my opinion (and i have an abg version of every class besides cleric and sm currently - and ive played those plenty as well) assassin was never OP on this server. Their overall damage was a bit high before the recent update, but the fact of the matter is their cc abilities were completely destroyed, now they have neither damage nor their skill utility. Good sin's still make due, but i think the updates have taken advantage of the player base more than anything.

in short:
Buff -> Sin macc.

 

Guys, wait for 2.5!!!!
Everything is gonna change!!!!

 

hope for the better

 

ROFLMAO, i think your on the wrong section ^^

 

Oh yes, believe me.

 

-walks into thread-
Oh snap ;o
-walks out of thread-

 

Let's all hope 2.5 will bring more balance between classes and PvP will be more njoyable for all of us

 

bump for Evilset! read it please >.<

 

Hmmmm, I wonder if Zee says the truth.

 

I like what he said... But he's not saying truth... Lumiel probably have 2 months to get 2.5 as usual. Just same as new emu, they were talking like "New EMU will come in 2 weeks!" Yes, it came for Crystal. After 2 months Lumiel got it *finally*.

Same for this 2.5 shit. It'll be implemented to Crystal and Evilset will continue to screw up our Assassins in this 2 months.

 

Sorry Kaylara, but shut the **** up.
Crystal had the new emu for so long because it was bugged to hell. So the delay was better for Lumiel.
You haven't tested sins in this 2.5 update so don't say it's screwed up. It's by far the best fixed class in the update.
And evilset isn't the only one who's working on the server so don't put all the blame on him.

If Crystal is fine after 2.5 Carl will put it on Lumiel.
For now, attacking devs like this is getting you nowhere.

 

Rly hope 2.5 come before july. I used my sins and looks like my hide useless. My stunlock useless. My char sometimes dead without do anything. And like someone keep pulling me when i walk. X.x sins is my most fav class. Pls fix it

 

I'm not attacking anyone, but I'm also raging... You better understand that before you telling me "stfu". Since I didn't test 2.5 and I never mentioned at somewhere that with 2.5 Sins weren't fixed. So why you're being rude?

He did wrong, whoever touching Assassin doing wrong... If I don't blame him, give me a name to blame ha?

Just yesterday or two days ago, my Sin were playing w/2.9k Eva and it's not 2.1, tell me this is who's job and let me blame him at all.
Yes it is not helping and taking me nowhere, but sh.tting in the class is taking them where?

Someone playing with damage scripts "every single day". Don't tell me I'm not right and he's right by doing all these stuff.

 

@Off-topic: very courteous and considerate to go STFU on others.

@On-topic: Reroll. Switch class. Happy again.


If you can't enjoy something that you do not absolutely need, just say "F it, I'm not up for this shit" and let the people who actually enjoy and know how that thing works enjoy it.

Win-win situation, nobody has to be > another.