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Returning Player from pre-2.5...bunch of questions, need help!

Discussion in 'Old Threads' started by unknowngst, Jun 27, 2011.

  1. unknowngst

    unknowngst Getting there

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    Hola!!! It has been months since I last logged in, only to return after Aion 2.5.
    I have a lot of catching-up to do, and here are some of my questions:

    1) Skill-wise:
    Seems that every class get two new skills (1 stigma, 1 non-stigma).
    I noticed that in the area accessible through those golden totem at main towns (sanctum/pandemonium), there are NPCs selling stigma and skill book.
    If I make sure I have gone through those NPC's skill books and stigma runes, then I can be sure that my skill and stigma list is up-to-date, right? Any skill I can't get from these NPCs in that area?

    2) Stigma-shards:
    So...still no NPC selling them? Have to buy from:
    - website by using credits
    - other player
    - kill monsters
    - new characters
    Those are still the only ways?

    3) Stat-wise:
    I am ASSUMING there's no change, or is there?
    Oh wait...seems that now Block comes before Parry, in this order: Evade -> Block -> Parry.
    Is this even implemented?
    How about the hard-caps and soft-caps? I mean, Evade still max 30%? Parry 40%? Block 50%?
    How about the hard-caps and soft-caps for crit/mresist/speed/flight-speed/mboost/macc?
    Any funky kinky new stat/bonus?

    4) Costumes:
    Anyone has a list of all new costumes? I am a fan of collecting costumes :)
    I see that the "Noble mansion" of each race, the place where they sell those 2 sets of costume pre-2.5, had 2 new costumes added. That makes 4 sets of costume obtainable through NPCs there...are there any other NPC selling new costumes? or any new costumes quest/drop/credit/token?

    5) Battle weapon/armors:
    OK...I'll spare you guys from answering this one :p
    I'll need to restat and revise the build of all my characters anyway...so I'll look-up the item-comparer on www.aiondatabase.com and see if there's any new battle weapon/armors coming up.
    Just in case: are ABG sets still the best PvP sets by far? ABG weapons/armors/accessories still the best PvP weapons/armor/accessories?

    6) Motions/Emotions
    I noticed there's a new motion tab...and found a new Daeva selling emotion/motion manuals....
    I kinda hope that all characters will auto-learn all these new emotions and motions...Any chance that this will happen in the near-future?
    Where are all the dancing-moves? I miss those "Aion Boogie", "Pop-star-you-know-who dance", "Seductive/Sexy dance", "Some-korea-star-dance 1 2 3" and etc...anyway to get those back?
    About those motions...can't figure out how to use it...I double clicked, drag, single-clicked, macro-ed them, they just won't work...

    7) New areas
    Seems that some new areas are added...but which of them are actually accessible to players? I don't wanna travel 12898407897238470 miles through vicious monsters and backstabbing asmo/elyos, only to find some doors to new area just won't open because the area is not currently available...

    8) New game system
    I see that there's some new features...like conditioning item...any new feature which is already implemented? How about arm-fusion? Any changes?

    9) New pets
    Ah, pets! Wondering if they are actually functioning properly, or just for the looks?
    I am particularly interested in those pets who are able to alert the master, if enemy approaching. Are these currently working? How far is the pet's radar? Will they detect hidden/stealth enemy too?
    What's the best pet to detect enemy? How to obtain it?

    10) Platinum/Gold/Silver Token...and The Circle???
    How to obtain Plat/Gold/Silver Token? Please don't tell me that I need to go through those super-high-hp-fortress-guardian-which-takes-more-than-30-minutes-to-kill-by-over-20-players...I think that's one of the frustration that leads me to quitting Aion months ago...
    And I noticed there's a new Token system seems to be something related to Mentoring? Is it properly implemented yet? I can start earning those Token already? The rewarding equips seems pretty :)

    11) Remodeling
    I have been wishing about more lenient remodeling. I mean, to be able to remodel from Plate -> Cloth, or Leather -> Chain. Yup, removing the restriction of armor type for remodeling. For armor only, not weapons...you wouldn't want to see templar hitting you with a tome...
    So, what's the current remodeling system looks like?

    12) New Server?
    I also see that there's a new server called Crystal? I am playing on Lumiel...what's the difference between Lumiel and Crystal? They seems to be both high rate...
    Which one has more player?
    Which one has better/balanced economy?
    Lumiel is retail-like stigma system....how about Crystal?
    It is bearable to max out crafting in Lumiel...how about Crystal?
    Fortress doesn't seems to be working as it is intended in Lumiel...how about Crystal?
    I mean, what's the point having 2 high-rate server if they are the same? Are they?

    Well, that's all my question, for now :p

    I noticed that the Thank button is removed? How to thank someone if they replied to my questions with proper answers?

    I must say I am quite impressed with the new graphic and UI, now if I just can get my hands on japanese voice-over v2.5...

    Anyway, any veteran who survived and thrived the grand-shift from 2.1 to 2.5, please enlighten me!! Thank you!
     
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  2. Quake5

    Quake5 Well-Known Member

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    I wouldnt call you a veteran sir :D
     
  3. unknowngst

    unknowngst Getting there

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    Neither would I :kewl:
    I am never one, and will never call myself a vet.

    Need a vet's help, I can't get a hang of 2.1 -> 2.5...help me please?
     
  4. Lumiaa

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    Crystal isnt ANYTHING RELATED to gamez.
    Also you forgot the mass barrage of bugs that came with 2.5.
     
  5. unknowngst

    unknowngst Getting there

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    Actually I didn't forget about it, because: How do I forget something, if I don't even know/remember it at the first place? :)

    Again, I am completely at lost at this 2.1 -> 2.5 transition; even before this transition, I am newbie to Aion.
    If there's any new things (good or bad, feature or bug, nerf or buff) don't hesitate to tell me about it!!

    Thank you.
     
  6. redcox

    redcox Proficient

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    Hola!!! It has been months since I last logged in, only to return after Aion 2.5.
    I have a lot of catching-up to do, and here are some of my questions:

    Welcome back and I hope you like your stay with us. Have fun!

    My answers are below your questions in bold.



    1) Skill-wise:
    Seems that every class get two new skills (1 stigma, 1 non-stigma).
    I noticed that in the area accessible through those golden totem at main towns (sanctum/pandemonium), there are NPCs selling stigma and skill book.
    If I make sure I have gone through those NPC's skill books and stigma runes, then I can be sure that my skill and stigma list is up-to-date, right? Any skill I can't get from these NPCs in that area?


    The only skill you cannot get from those NPCs or any other NPC for that matter is the Class-Stigma from the quest in Inggison, for example second wind for Glads, etc…

    The NPCs inside the area you mentioned only sell skill books so do not account the Stigma Skills. You should all skill on Auto Learn as you level so you shouldn't have to worry about the skill books.



    2) Stigma-shards:
    So...still no NPC selling them? Have to buy from:
    - website by using credits
    - other player
    - kill monsters
    - new characters
    Those are still the only ways?


    You can also get them thru quests but other than that, you are correct about the options you mentioned above.


    3) Stat-wise:
    I am ASSUMING there's no change, or is there?
    Oh wait...seems that now Block comes before Parry, in this order: Evade -> Block -> Parry.
    Is this even implemented?
    How about the hard-caps and soft-caps? I mean, Evade still max 30%? Parry 40%? Block 50%?
    How about the hard-caps and soft-caps for crit/mresist/speed/flight-speed/mboost/macc?
    Any funky kinky new stat/bonus?



    There has been a change on the stats and that is an issue that all players are facing as the devs work to figure out the correct stats and damage formulas. Currently there have been many fixes with the damage and it's somewhat more normal than a month ago.

    Evade is not share with block and parry, it's a stand alone attribute and yes block comes before parry, giving parry a higher chance to assist the player.

    The hardcaps is tricky due to the fact that the stats aren't 100%, I can't tell you exactly if they're working at they should, specially for block (I have a block set with my templar and the 50% chance doesn't seem to work right). This applies for every other attribute with hardcap, some players will say they work, some other will say they don't work, such as MR.


    4) Costumes:
    Anyone has a list of all new costumes? I am a fan of collecting costumes
    I see that the "Noble mansion" of each race, the place where they sell those 2 sets of costume pre-2.5, had 2 new costumes added. That makes 4 sets of costume obtainable through NPCs there...are there any other NPC selling new costumes? or any new costumes quest/drop/credit/token?


    As far as I know, all customes are only acquired thru the online shop on gamezaion.com. You can get skin remodels from mobs and a few customes from the dress shops in Sanctum/Pandemonium.

    5) Battle weapon/armors:
    OK...I'll spare you guys from answering this one
    I'll need to restat and revise the build of all my characters anyway...so I'll look-up the item-comparer on www.aiondatabase.com and see if there's any new battle weapon/armors coming up.
    Just in case: are ABG sets still the best PvP sets by far? ABG weapons/armors/accessories still the best PvP weapons/armor/accessories?


    ABG is the most effective ABG set for PvP but players are looking into EGT/APP options as the bonus stats on ABG sets have been removed. I personally still use MCD set and I find it works better than ABG.


    6) Motions/Emotions
    I noticed there's a new motion tab...and found a new Daeva selling emotion/motion manuals....
    I kinda hope that all characters will auto-learn all these new emotions and motions...Any chance that this will happen in the near-future?
    Where are all the dancing-moves? I miss those "Aion Boogie", "Pop-star-you-know-who dance", "Seductive/Sexy dance", "Some-korea-star-dance 1 2 3" and etc...anyway to get those back?


    The motions will be implemented in the future but as for the auto-learning them, that's something I don't think anyone knows but they might be accessible for purchase in-game. You can actually buy the Ninja one in-game right now but it just doesn't work yet.

    As for the other dances and emotes, they're just not part of 2.5 and some where only meant to be for Korean Aion and we managed to get our hands on them and apply them on the NA version. This option was removed on 2.5 but I'm sure someone will work it out.


    7) New areas
    Seems that some new areas are added...but which of them are actually accessible to players? I don't wanna travel 12898407897238470 miles through vicious monsters and backstabbing asmo/elyos, only to find some doors to new area just won't open because the area is not currently available...


    I owe you an answer to this one, I haven't ventured to those areas yet.

    8) New game system
    I see that there's some new features...like conditioning item...any new feature which is already implemented?


    Conditioning should be implemented but we just don't have the items that can be conditioned yet.


    9) New pets
    Ah, pets! Wondering if they are actually functioning properly, or just for the looks?
    I am particularly interested in those pets who are able to alert the master, if enemy approaching. Are these currently working? How far is the pet's radar? Will they detect hidden/stealth enemy too?
    What's the best pet to detect enemy? How to obtain it?


    For the most part they're working properly but if you're expecting to feed your pet and get those nifty items you'd get on Retail, don't hold your breath when feeding your pet. Those items can only be acquired thru the online shop. As for the other pet features, such as detecting hidden enemies, last time I used a pet, it worked but I can't advise you which is the best pet for detecting enemies since I rarely use my pet anymore. I like the surprise attacks from those hidden sins.


    10) New Server?
    I also see that there's a new server called Crystal? I am playing on Lumiel...what's the difference between Lumiel and Crystal? They seems to be both high rate...
    Which one has more player?
    Which one has better/balanced economy?
    Lumiel is retail-like stigma system....how about Crystal?
    It is bearable to max out crafting in Lumiel...how about Crystal?
    Fortress doesn't seems to be working as it is intended in Lumiel...how about Crystal?
    I mean, what's the point having 2 high-rate server if they are the same? Are they?



    CrystalAion is a different server with more retail like drops and exp but those that play Crystal Aion could give you more insight about the server. I've only played Crystal to experience it at least once but haven't dedicated time to it yet.



    Well, that's all my question, for now

    I noticed that the Thank button is removed? How to thank someone if they replied to my questions with proper answers?

    I must say I am quite impressed with the new graphic and UI, now if I just can get my hands on japanese voice-over v2.5...

    Anyway, any veteran who survived and thrived the grand-shift from 2.1 to 2.5, please enlighten me!! Thank you!


    That was some questionnaire, I hope I was of help as I'm at work and I can't sit down and be as specific as I normally would.
     
  7. unknowngst

    unknowngst Getting there

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    I really appreciate your reply. How to thank you? That friggin' Thank button is nowhere to be found...

    BTW, I am playing on Lumiel, I am pretty sure I saw some NPCs selling stigma stones (not sure if it's ALL, but damn near 100%) in the area accessible through golden totem in main towns.

    The \\givemissingskills is not available, and I realized that my characters didn't auto-learn the new non-stigma skills, even after several log-out and in. I had to purchase the skill book from NPC to learn it.

    Ugh I miss the dances...
    Need to collect costumes again...
    Need to revise all my 8 characters' skills and stigma and equips...
    Need to get pets...
    Need to get titles...

    Btw redcox, do you know anything about gold/silver/platinum/The Circle Tokens? (The Q.10 back in my first post, I guess you replied to earlier edition of my post :p )
     
  8. redcox

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    Your reply is thank you enough.

    As for the Stigmas, you can find the regular stigmas in Sanctum/Pandemonium (and mob drops too) and the Advance Stigmas are in Teminion/Primum and the rest are in Inggison Fortress and Gelkmaros Fortress.

    the \\givemissingskills is not available do to a bug that caused players to acquire all the Stigma Tree Skills on Lumiel which shouldn't happen since we have a Stigma System on Lumiel.

    If you're not getting all the Skills by Autolearn as you level (except for the Stigmas, those you have to actually buy) then that's probably a bug because I just leveled a char yesterday and I got them. Please report it under the problems/skill bug section.

    As for the medals, right now you can't get the gold/silver medals from fortresses because no one is doing them since most of them are "bugged".

    Platinum medals can be acquired by going to Inggison/Gelkmaros and Defending the fortress when they're available. Basically all you have to do is go to the fortress and kill any asmodians/Elyos that come by and when the vulnerability ends, you should get your medals in the mail. Yo could get 5 Platinum Medals per fort defended (sometimes less medals).
     
  9. kramsors

    kramsors お兄ちゃん

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    what sever you are?
     
  10. unknowngst

    unknowngst Getting there

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    I am playing in Lumiel. All my 8 characters are already lv55 before v2.5, so there's no leveling up, and none of them get those new skills :(

    Crafting is still easy on Lumiel, right? I'll start to venture into crafting to complete my skin-collection :)

    Thanks for all the info guys, at least now I got a sense of direction...one step at a time :)
     

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