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Templar's Damage

Discussion in 'Old Threads' started by redcox, Jul 7, 2011.

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  1. Dranzell

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    Thanks for doing this :).
    Well, all our other skills are... pretty nerfed if you ask me.

    Some Templar bugs (To shorten the thread):
    -Steel Wall Defense doesn't cancel on weapon switch.
    -Damage randomizer does not exist.
    -Shieldburst does miss, even though his description says it doesn't.
    -Block does not block 70% damage (As it says on a +15 ABG Shield), but more like 20% (Shield's stats are 50% + 20% from enchant, so it calculates only using enchant %).
    -Mace's damage is waaaaaay to low.

    Question: What does "Immune to crashes" from Prayer of Freedom mean? I don't see anything change.

     
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    Immune to crashes should refer to flight pvp. Like the poison effect clipping wings or water spirit and such.
     
  3. Fibre

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    it should work whit gliding too..

    block.. yeah most important thing on templar.. and its fcked up..
    shieldburst should hit even when UD on.. it cannot be evaded/dodged.. atleast that way it should be
    random dmg.. DAM IMPORTANT.. (ofc you can add dmg on skill normal way too..(like punishment base 1191-1213 atm.. could be changed to 1191-2213) i think theres random dmg then.and same to every other random dmg skills too like shining slash and BP. )
     
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  4. Karemiwen

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    BTW i was using the Fenris Fangs title on retail, and the Miragent Holy Templar title on Gamez when I did the comparison. They are the same title but for different factions. Everything was the same except gaining 2 attack, gaining 37 block, and losing 60 crit and accuracy on this server.
     
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    The tooltip on a +15 ABG shield states that if an incoming physical attack is blocked it will reduce the damage by 70%.

    The main point of the rest of the testing to to prove that one handed weapons are nerfed. If I get roughly 33% damage mitigation from my armor when I'm hit with a greatsword; then, I should get roughly 33% damage reduction when I'm hit by any physical weapon be it mace, sword, staff ect. Instead I get roughly 90% reduction when hit by a mace. I've been hit for 1 damage from tahabata swords; this should never happen.
     
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    shieldburst stumble effect still can be resisted with stumble resist (UD/ removeshock.... and remind that UD isnt 100% )
    it wont miss just for random dodge, blind, evade skill still can make it miss.
     
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    But heres another matter to think, if the description says, no chance miss, we dont actually know, does it mean also with the stumple? We dont actually know actual border of this matter, And the fact i did today shieldbursts on chanter today occasionally times, none landed, there was no blind, etc or other physical statements? some needs to test this.
     
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    Bump. 10 chars
     
  9. Dranzell

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    No, here is the description:

    Inflicts 1152-1156 physical damage on the target with no miss chance, and stumbles the enemy.
    Requires a shield.
    Stigma Skill.

    As you see no miss chance is before it states the stumble effect, so it just doesn't miss. You can or can't stumble, depending on the UD or Stun resist or any other buff. (As well as Luck)

    So yes, if you use your brain a bit, the matter is pretty simple.
     
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    + yeah.. ud give stumble resist.. (Unwavering Devotion I Increases your Stun, Knock Back, Stumble, Spin, and Aether's Hold Resists by 1000 for 1:30. Stigma Skill.)

    but there not other buffs than give it.. stumble/stunn 2 different things.
    look like chanter.. they have stun resist buff etc.. but nothing against stumble

    + any amount of block/parry/eva wasnt make shieldburst deal 0 dmg
     
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    Stun and stumble different things, atleast with my knowledge over 2 years i have played, Enchantment mantra gives only 500 stun resist, not stumble resist like UD does, if i am wrong correct then ty.
     
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    My bad there, well, the point is that Shieldburst doesn't always stumble, but only has a high chance, while it should ALWAYS hit.
     
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    it should stumble always when not UD on.. it not chance.. when it hit it stumble.. even if its blocked/parryed attack. only stumble resist skills can make it not stumble.. nothing else..

    its like divine justice.. it stun if not resisted stun via mr(since macigal stun)
     
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    Well my templar can stumbe peoples in air >.> ! Also glads can use knockback in air ... !

    From wat i knew that effect can't be aplied in air .... or i'm wrong and its a 2.5 feature ????


    About templars bp - a guy with non pvp attk ( templar - ign sentimental ) hits on me ( abg cloth ) @ 3-4k with bp (in crit) using a sword - i just duno wat ....... u eat there >< ! He just went from retail and said that its a bit to much ! He said that 2 skills are bugged - ...... slash and .. ehm i do not remember them xD


    Besides that wen i see my sorc hiting 2.1k with inferno ( full pvp attk ) and 2.0k with pandemonium focust / aetheric spell ( a 2k dp skill with 4k dmg in description ) on a chanter (with 200 el resist ) - i just sai hell with this .......... The only thing op at a sorc now its wintry armor ...
    I must use all skills with 10 minute cd , 5 minute cd , 3 min cd (sorc its full with that ) to kill a player with same gear as i do >< !

     
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    Templar is the dream.

    Most powerfull Tanker and now 8000 damage with BP ^^
     
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    Critical Hit!Zen has inflicted 4,548 damage on you by using Break Power IV ? Not anymore ?
     
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    you should look at shining slash and slaughter as they do random dmg with a HUGE dmg diff while the tooltip doesnt show that.
     
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    Please help me with an answer guys. I have a anoing problem with my tank skills. My char simply stops at some distance and performing an normal atack , when i press lets say 1 , says you are to far away. its hapening on mobs and on pvp also. what i did wrong? When im trying with C , also making the same things . So i must pushing my char with W every time , what is anoing , and losing time , specialy in pvp. TYWM for your sugesstions and answers.
     
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    There are those who've noted on retail that they can do close to 4k damage w/ non PvP GS. So its not far fetched to see this occur in Gamez.

    Your friend's damage for his Temp on retail may possibly just be weaker due to that very fact. Most people in retail Aion have stated to dish anywhere between 3.3k-3.7k+ on average, and that was using Trioran or Lannok. BP damage output here is fine. With stronger gears, some players have noted 5.3k-6.1k+ numbers, with the 6k+ being on cloth users. Their is even a video of someone who is quite well geared, he's even got a +10 ABG GS, however its not fused, and within that video he's shown doing almost 4k damage on a PvP geared Templar! +10 ABG non-fused? Imagine a +15 ABG GS fused, the numbers would be even greater.

    I've yet to see myself do 8k+ damage as some have indicated here on Gamez. Is this on Siel server? If so, then yes, that may make some sense. Because on Lumiel, the most I've seen myself do was over 5k+ damage with BP. I've yet to even see myself even breathe close to 8k, and although noted on here in Gamez I'll bet that it's rare and only within certain situations. There's no way Temps are doing 8k+ constantly with Break Power in Gamez even that is ridiculously far fetched.

    The difference from retail to Gamez mainly is that we are more readily equipped, and we have access to the best scrolls, food, items available which pushes our damage capabilities for greater then most very powerful Aion Templars in retail. All of this makes for Break Power to do greater damage then what would actually see on retail, and on retail its doing unfathomable damage already.
     
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    He plays on crystal and he didn't did it with pvp gear lol ....(+0 % pvp attk ) !

    LOL didn't i said that i'm wearing abg cloth o_O

    No they may hit as much as u say but maybe with a greatsword + full buffed >.>

    The only vid that i saw from retail its a 5k dmg ( gs ) on a f.. mob dude ...

    8K ON RETAIL < pvp dmg >? bro ... thats 2x the hp of a lvl 50 dude ....


    He said that the dmg inficted by bp here its just ridiculous ... and i can't agree more on that !

    Dunno can u show me at least a 4k dmg ( bp ) - useing a sword ?
     
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