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Need help for perfecting a build

Discussion in 'Old Threads' started by Dranzell, Jul 19, 2011.

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  1. Dranzell

    Dranzell Banned

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    Well, I have put most of my brains into my build, which I've used for 2 months or more. But I feel it's still not maxed.
    My stats are these:
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    which is:
    775 attack (no attack manastones)
    2540 accuracy (with 3 manastones)
    478 crit strike (a few stones, 15 or so)
    3100 parry (what my build is based on)

    I need some new ideas, I think I could drop some parry stones, but I need some formulas:
    Parry formula as well as the cap
    Crit strike soft and hard cap
    Attack +5 PVP FORMULA (Read well PVP, not PVE)

    Basicly I want to know if I can drop my parry to 2900 (Considering most of the elyos have around 2.5k accuracy since they are crit strike tanks) in favour of Crit or Attack, without dropping my parry rate (So it should be not lower than the cap).

    Thanks in advance.
     
  2. Badrobot

    Badrobot SNU SNU

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    Im not sure if putting so much thought about a manastone build is smart. For me,whatever seems better in action,that is what i use.. All those formulas and caps wont really matter in the actual game cause every opponent has different set and manastones and class..
     
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    sourcherry Keep your mean side.

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    Templar with parry o.o

    Arent temp meant to go block? o.o
     
  4. Dranzell

    Dranzell Banned

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    Yes, well I'm pretty happy with my build right now, but I want to improve it. There's always room for that :p.

    No, block is bugged, block is for shield users. I mainly wield a Greatsword.

    Still, I need some help. D:
     
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    You didnt mention that you were a templar.

    Anyway,my templar is full block but block doesnt work..My greatsword is full crit though. Also have a set with full HP. I guess..if u wont use block then HP-CRIT it is..
     
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    I definetly don't want to waste my Parry on HP. If I parry half of the attacks I receive (And I do) it'd be about the same as adding 1/4th of my actual HP in manas. That roughly is... ehm... 3k HP = about 30 manastones or 5 pieces full HP. I think I need more the formulas rather than ideas.
     
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    Parry doesnt work that well. Besides you can parry 40% of the attacks only and that is if the opponent has lower accuracy,significantly lower. Parry isnt an advisable manastone for a templar. I use block set+ GS crit and i still win against most of the opponents. Im just lazy to change my block manastones cause when they fix it ill need to put it back again..

    Parry is 40% you cant parry half of the attacks..

    If u need the cap of crit its 540. + Whatever the strike resist of your opponent..
     
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    Block on greatsword is useless, since you actually need an active shield that gives the damage absorb, don't you?
    Also, parry is 40%, but it's like saying that Para doesn't proc every 15-20 hits. (When it should at around 50)
    As for crit cap, I think that'll be good use to me.
     
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    I use shield and mace together with my block set i just switch to greatsword to use my activated skills that deal more dmg with a greatsword AKA break power and pitless blow. As well as the other 4 greatsword skills that i have. I use them only when my opponent is stumbled or stunned i dont risk my defense when the opponent is attacking me. Switching weapons is the key to a templar.. About parry,when they fix block your parry set will be useless,since other templars will use block and u ll have to follow because block gives 50% chance..
     
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    Who knows when they fix it... might take ages, it's a known problem since... so for now I'm good with parry xD. Also, Mace damage is sooooo nerfed vs. ABG. I can't rely on it at the moment.

    I need Parry/Block formula and Attack +5 forumla IN PVP.
     
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    Well with mace and shield i can hit 6k magic smash bu yes its nerfed for other skills.
     
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    I digged this from the aion forums, they are true, right?


    Parry: (Parry - Accuracy)/10 = Parry chance(40% Max)

    Evasion: (Evasion - Accuracy)/10 = Evasion chance(30% Max)

    Block: (Block - Accuracy)/10 = Block chance(50% Max)

    Magic Resist: (MR - Mag Acc)/10 = Resist Chance(40% Max)

    Physical Defense: 10 PD = -1 damage

    Critical Attack: 10 crit = 1% from 1-440. 20 crit = 1% from 441+
     
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    I think resist in gamez is like 90%..
     
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    The parry build is viable with block being bugged. Do remember that you can lower your opponent's accuracy by 200 with blunting severe blow.
     
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    Hitting mobs, that don't resist anything, for 6k has no bearing on this discussion.
     
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    parry/block/eva/crit atleast right that.. but the thing abaut block.. it reduce 70% dmg whit eternal shield.. + templar wasnt really need block stones that much.. since skills what make block 100%.. lets say 2.2-2,3k Acc normaly.. so needed block abaut 2,8k and needed parry abaut 2,7k.. but you 3,1k parry.. hmm waste of manastones.. lets say 2,9k parry is enought 99% of cases
     
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    remember this. every build has its own purpose. glad, chant use parry in their set cus they have skills that r activated when they success on parry.
    for temp, it's block. so block should be the main build since temp is tanker too. stick with shield and mace/sword. only switch to GS when u need.

    about crit. u forget about strike resist. and atm, if u have full ABG access set, + 15 armor set, NOWings or lucky wings. u have 350+ strike resist. so with scroll +40 strike resist, u have like ~400.
    ur crit - their strike resist is the actual crit rate of u. which mean u need u reach really high crit strike. my suggestion is 900 at max. 900 crit - 400 strike resist = 500 crit. it's about ~50% of crit rate.
    but i think 3 parts (3x6slots) r enough. which mean GS + 1 armor part. with scroll + food. u can reach really high crit. 700+ ~ 800+

    so the build should be 4 armor parts with block, 1 part with crit, GS with crit.
    and for shield + mace/sword, i put MR so when i switch to my MR set. i have full MR.
     
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    I'll cut 1,5 parts from parry and add crit instead D:.
     
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    i guess u will think about whats better for you in this server any can tell you to look official aion forums about templars but this server its diferent so u will think about whats its ussed here the most in official servers in 1.5 HP build was the most popular in all classes but now changed here too so u must think about what building its better

    other ppl can say u should focus in 1 build but thats also can be a bit wrong cz aion have many way of play and builds and diferents class so 1 build can help u to be inmune to 1 or 2 classs like full m.resist vs magical classes but no point vs physical so i suggest to make a build to can be usable vs all classes im sorc and my build its HP/M.Accu its usefull vs all idk about templars :p
     
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