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Poll: Does GameZ care more about its players or its payers?

Discussion in 'Old Threads' started by asmo442, Oct 1, 2011.

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Does GameZ care more about its players or its payers?

  1. Players?

    1 vote(s)
    5.3%
  2. Payers?

    18 vote(s)
    94.7%
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  1. asmo442

    asmo442 Proficient

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    Be honest.

    Instances entry only to payers.

    Quests broken that give rewards like extendable weapons and good titles.

    Drops broken / removed.

    Class imbalances. (No comment beyond that.)

    Zergs (obviously people hate 'em.)

    Enchanting available only to payers.

    Sure we can vote for credits to use, but thats like 250 days straight voting to get good gear, and doesnt include any socketing or enchanting costs.

    VIP affecting how the game is played to a point where you HAVE to have it to accomplish anything; dungeon enterances, drops, etc etc... Thats 15$ a month. Isnt that why some left retail?
     
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  2. vRisen

    vRisen Banned

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    I think Carl needs to get his head out of his ass and stop thinking about Gamez as a profiteering business. But I guess my opinions don't matter, if he doesn't care that he's running a shit server, then I guess he just doesn't care.

    Sure, payers keep the servers up. But donations shouldn't be something that changes the outcome of a game. If someone e-mailed Carl and asked for Wrath of Developer spell added to his char for $1,000; I can guarantee I'm going to be hit with a few 10-million damaging spells.

    Edit:

    The way I see it:

    1) Shit's not getting done (grabbing updates from Aion-Lightning doesn't count.)

    2) Shit's getting broken (code doesn't break on its own. It's being tampered with; guess whose fault that is.)

    3) Players are unhappy.

    Shit needs to change.
     
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  3. BetaMax

    BetaMax Lord Emperor Forum Legend

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    its like this and i think its true: (in order)

    1. First few months of the server = obviously players
    2. Next few months, now that server has enough players = GET PAYERS
    3. Got alot of players and payers = SIT BACK AND CHILL, and get mo payers!
     
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  4. Coldblooded

    Coldblooded ~Blood Voyeur~

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    i think Gamez doesnt cares for players nor payers lol
     
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  5. Teilak

    Teilak Banned

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    Payers. buuuuuuut he has made stuff drop able that he could have made 2k credit per part in the shop...and i would like to see carl be more social able with staff and actually get a good staff going that knows what they're doing besides hiring nub AMT that know hardly anything about Aion, hacks, bugs.
     
  6. Aegis

    Aegis Guest

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    Not sure if should lock...


    But incase this is your first private server, then allow me to tell you with experiance, Gamez-Network is EXCEPTIONALLY unbiased. Which is a blessing for most here.

    Other private server networks are absolutely elitist and horrendous, showing biases for spawning items for friends, completely unfair bans out of the blue daily for pking their legit char, etc.

    Rest assured, anyone that thinks that Gamezaion is unfair in its treatment of players, must be new to the private server experiance. I'd wager more drama actually goes on in retail.
     
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  7. Yazuki

    Yazuki Proficient

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    "Class imbalances. (No comment beyond that.)

    Zergs (obviously people hate 'em.)

    Enchanting available only to payers."

    Did you just throw that in your post because you wanted to? Because they are 100% unrelated to payers vs players rofl...
     
  8. ghost521

    ghost521 Lucent's name is Jeremy

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    The no-ending server isn't biased, but it has a TOTALITARIAN admin.

    Everything about it is perfect, EXCEPT for the Sandwich Man.
     
  9. asmo442

    asmo442 Proficient

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    I've played a few dozen other servers, including retail from 6 months of chinese beta all the way through and up until they did the first big merge that made Elyos the only race viable to play because of overcrowding. I was asmo and couldnt leave Primum Fortress because of it being camped in all directions, all teleport spots, all areas of abyss were camped by 1 jillion elyos. I wont mention anything about experiences with other private servers for one reason, I dont play them currently.

    I know what I see in THIS game and on THIS server. I play Lumiel and never ever logged onto the other one.

    At the rate I see new players with all the new shiny items I am sure Carl is making money. But I have been here long enough to see that things are only getting worse. Still getting paid, but not fixing.

    Its definately payers. Look at whats broken. Then decide.
     
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  10. asmo442

    asmo442 Proficient

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    I will help you here with those.

    Class imbalances are a benefit to the payer because when one class get jacked up because of an update, a payer can easily switch class, leveling to 55 in a few hours with VIP and buy all new items. A player (which can be a payer, but lets assume players dont pay for arguments sake.) takes time to switch because of needing to trade items, which can be impossible sometimes, and farm new usable stuff until you can vote some stuff up. Definately a benefit to payers.

    Zergs are a symptom of payers. They dont have to farm, only pvp. If people are farming they are definately not doing it in a zerg. Solo plat medal quests are a good way to catch a guy farming and get a good 1v1 out of it. But with the Cash Shop ruling the game, people just buy items, look for pvp, and zerg the night away.

    Enchanting is broken past +10 right now with available dropped enchant stones. Best i have seen from a crushed item is level 100 enchant stone which has a high fail rate from 14 to 15. But the level 125 185 and 265 you can get from shop, your good to go for +15 anytime you want.

    All within the realm of the payer.

    Good luck and have fun with the explination Yazuki.
     
  11. Yazuki

    Yazuki Proficient

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    You do realize no one is stupid enough to pay 1000 credits for 5 enchantment stones? There was one case where a guy bought 5 level 195 stones and made a thread, can you guess what it was about? Yes you are right it's about how he FAILED to get +15 even with the lvl 195 stones.

    Zergs have NOTHING to do whatsoever with actual PvP. Do you know why people zerg? It's because they usually have crap gear and need an easier way to farm AP for PvP gear.

    Class imbalances are not a benefit to the payer unless they have the stupid mentality of, "HEY THIS CLASS IS OP I WANT TO PLAY IT" which is not the case for some of us

    From what I can see you're trying to list as many things as possible even when you know the reasons you list them are absolutely situational and very rarely even true ie no one buys 5 enchantment stones that don't even work for 10 dollars/zergs are not made up of full ABG geared players that just want to "pvp"
     
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    You have your opinion and I have mine. I just tried to explain my views. Glad you had to post again to say yours. Thanks we appreciate it.

    Can you please link the thread where you say a guy posted about buying 5 stones?

    Also, link your information as to how many enchantment stones have been purchased.

    God speed and good luck.
     
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  13. Yazuki

    Yazuki Proficient

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    You actually think people buy 5 level 195 stones for 1000 credits on a regular basis lol...
     
  14. MzBella

    MzBella Respected Member

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    Hmm... -looks to Aegis post-

    This thread is exceptionally unacceptable. Please refer back to Aegis' post. If Carl really cared about the money, he'd be like those other server's that charge for everything just to do everything

    -closing-
     
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