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What is the best PvP class in Siel with all stigmas?

Discussion in 'Old Threads' started by kintinu, Oct 18, 2011.

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  1. Uehara

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    A good and veteran Cleric even how much you know your combo to try taking a Cleric fast, he/she still knows what to do. I told you, if the Cleric is clear headed, even how many nukes you throw, even how much you try to paralyze it, he/she can still survive. My example would be Cazar which is full ABG. Not to mention the 10k+ HP he gets with his gear, the shield skills, healing boost skills, casting time reducer skill, and so on. I saw him fight Sorcerers in duel even against Asmodians and I never saw him lose. Not to mention those Sorcerers, they are decent ones.

    Well, the author have decided it though, he will go Gladiator. Well, good luck to him. Gladiators if not with MR gear is the best prey for me. I enjoy killing them slowly, and I never even ran from them LOL! I fight them face to face even my HP goes less than half.
     
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    now ur trying to use cazar as a proof that cleric is better.ok i got a counter, u saw sexyspell in pvp right? ur talking about good cleric fighting decent sorcerers. put it good cleric vs good sorcerer.
     
  3. kintinu

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    im playing gladiator because its op and because i have a full set+15 with manastones critical+15
    now just need to get a full set+15 full mg manastones
    :)
     
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    I don't think a good cleric with a good ping (this is very important mind you) should be able to lose to a sorcerer. Any attempt to stunlock will simpely won't work because all your cover conditions will be dispelled. As for soul freeze --> thunderbolt or thunderbolt --> soul freeze, any player with a good ping can pot or remove shock accordingly.
     
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    Sorc, Gladiator, Chanter, Cleric, Templar, Ranger

    Are probably the classes that benifit the most from all stigma's.

    Whereas Spiritmaster and Assasins probably benifit the least from it.


    But in the end anyone can beat anyone, depends on gear(and its setup) and upon player skill. A well geared cleric for instance can beat a well geared sorc (not as easily mindyou), and a well geared gladiator can ravage a well geared sorc.
     
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    sm can still beat any other class in 1v1 without breaking a sweat though.
     
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    thats why u have cc skills , silence and a insta stun.get the picture? in this situation cleric has to be 100% accurate when using dispell pots which is a very low chance to do it since u cast silence almost instantly when u have the buffs up.
     
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    silence > pot > stun> rs >impervious veil
    or
    stun> rs>impervious veil > silence

    either way, the cleric gets away
     
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    a cleric , a sorc or a good gladi can definetly win against a spiritmaster
     
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    That depends whether they use curse of fire / water or not. If they don't sure you have a small chance to win, otherwise no. Insta fear --> Roots --> fear shriek --> shackles --> infernal pain, cylcone, weaken spirit, anything else. I actually won duel tournaments by doing this simpely because the enemy can't fight back. I don't useally fear bomb but i sure do love free tournament wins. Well i retired from sm anyway.

    You make it sound as if the cleric will be standing there just doing /dance :/
     
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    why? because of the fearlock? first off, the spiritmaster will have to have at least 2100 ma because i as a cleric will have 2400 mr
    most spiritmasters dont have so much ma
    and second of all i got HoTs which i can cover pretty well and survive this fearlock...with a stigma system it is much much harder for a spiritmaster to finish someone
     
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    I disagree personally, especially on a full stigma'd server.

    The other classes, such as gladiator, have multiple offensive buffs to boost their attack through the roof, ranged abilities, ankle snare, and can self-heal. Mindyou we poof those buffs off quite easily, making them moot. But a good gladiator (with silence socketed) will be able to spike us and wipe us.

    In the end though it all depends on how the SM approaches the situation. Such as following up with wind spirit to stun them, or to sleep them (full stigma assumption), or if you knock them back with chain of earth combo, or if you bodyroot them, or instant fear, root even is an alternative, or maybe ignite aether than eearth combo...

    In the end its more skill based, the SM, and thats a bit of a mind-**** for most people.

    And most people see fear and go "OMGZZ FeeARraRrSSSzZz"

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    Apparently the problem of the stigma system is that spiritmasters forget golden skills like spirit wall protect. +100 magical accuracy and +250 magic resist for 30 seconds? i was cruising with 2300 magical accuracy with that on my sm.

    Edit: well i can't give a perfect opinion for siel i guess, i play lumiel, not button bash reloaded.
     
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    lucky for me i've never came across a pro spiritmaster on my cleric ... a good spiritmaster with the right build, the right ping and maybe a fearlock will probably end me
     
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    Lumiel is far better lol, Siel is wretched. I can't wait to transfer (if it does -parsay- even come).

    Oh PFFFFFTTTT
     
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    dont think so. curse of tree> silence>illusion storm ( insta skill, never saw someone pot in between these 2 skills)

    sorcerer also aint playing with toys while fighting lol. dance u or not, cc will land on u anyway.
     
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    You'll love it. playing sm on lumiel is like playing god.

    You can see someone casting soul freeze, all it really takes is good reflexes and a good ping to pot it. I don't really understand the point of using curse of roots though, it will waste precious time of supplication of focus.
     
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    i wish i was rich like aegis to transfer to lumiel...
     
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    Lol XD I know :< on retail it was so nice.... stigma system... I MISS IT SO DAMN BADLY.
     
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    hmm, maybe to stop him coz illusion storm has low aoe? dont think cleric and sorcerer will fight close to each other. and when u have magic boost I and vaizel's wisdom up, u barely notice the casting bar, it pops up for like half second
     
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