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Acd x eac

Discussion in 'GamezAION General Discussion' started by rafaelcarne, Oct 4, 2012.

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  1. rafaelcarne

    rafaelcarne New Member

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    I was not playing much and I was wondering what outdated set is the best ..? is plate and weapon
     
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    Rome ソロモン・ヨアズ・アブラハム Forum Legend

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    60e*EAC*:
    681 m res
    34 p attack
    21 m acc
    493 m sup

    60e(A2)*ACD*:
    722 m res
    34 p attack
    0 m acc
    580 m sup

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    rafaelcarne New Member

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    acd plate is the best?
     
  4. Stark

    Stark ᴘ ʀ ɪ ᴍ ᴇ ʀ ᴀ Forum Legend

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    Yes, it is right now the best PvP plate set in the game. EAC comes 2nd.
     
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    Rome ソロモン・ヨアズ・アブラハム Forum Legend

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    not by far, its not like comparing ABG to APP.
     
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    The difference is very trivial.

    It's like you're paying extra money to put spinners on your car.
    Yeah, it looks cool, you can brag about it, but really it's still the same car. You're not going to go faster.
     
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    Rome ソロモン・ヨアズ・アブラハム Forum Legend

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    The best metaphor I've read.
     
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    That small difference have saved me so many times already, enough for me not to regret getting ACD at all. Being a gladiator and being able to bail out alive after killing 1 or 2 on a 1 vs 3 or 5 with 300 or less HP makes me really glad I have both EAC and ACD.

    Besides, each ACD part is just 500 credits more expensive than EAC ending up with the entire ACD set being 2500 credits more expensive than an entire EAC Set. Augmenting is not a problem at all so if you have enough credits to get ACD anyway instead of EAC then I don't see why wouldn't you.

    I bet most of the player who bought EAC when it first appeared on shop would have bought ACD instead of EAC had they happened to appear there at the same time with the same price that they have right now, that includes me. I mean, 2500 is not that of a big deal if we're talking about an entire set. Heck, people even spends 2000 credits just for a shoulder remodel, much worse there are people like me who spends an entire EAC set just for a full set remodel.

    We choose to get EAC and not remain stuck on ABG in a hope of more survivability chance / offense but what would be the point of it if you end up dying just because you didn't have that few hundreds extra HP or your target got away with less than 200 HP because you didn't have that extra offense stats ACD has to offer?

    Being close enough to surviving / killing a target doesn't count. It's survive / die or kill your target / fail to kill it, close does not count.
     
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    if you analyze the cost benefit eac ends up being more "useful", because even cheaper than 500 credits. ty for all
     
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    1. You are Spiritmaster.
    2. I don't know if it's group pvp / solo pvp / zerging.
    3. Even PvE gear can win over someone with full ACD gear, if it's 1v1 anyway which apparently is not something you find everyday.
    4. I have completely no idea how Siel people are like in terms of PvP.
     
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    if I were a melee I'd stay with EAC but as a caster I'd like ACD, I don't deny it but EAC is not bad at all. A friend of mine lend me ACD and to be honest I only see the difference in zergs, in a 1 vs 1 situation It's the same tho. When I bought EAC, the day before The Staff lied about ACD. They said that ACD was not going to be in the shop anymore and that it was only for a limited time so I bought EAC and a pair of WoClvl1's.
     
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    I'd have to agree with you that in 1v1 encounters, you can barely see the difference between EAC and ACD but we all know 1v1 is almost non-existent these days unless they're arranged 1v1 which is boring because there is no element of surprise and you can't use the terrain in your advantage or to make the battle more interesting.

    PvP is either:
    - You against a zerg
    - You against a group / pack
    - 1v1
    - Your group against a zerg
    - Your group against another group
    - Your group against 1 person / few people
    - You on a zerg against a group / 1 person

    Looking at these, the chance of having a 1v1 on a daily basis is rather low (1 out of 7) which makes the point of getting ACD instead of EAC rather stronger :p
     
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    I am not saying you are lying, but I don't really trust that there is that big difference in 40 mres, really... And also the "just", 25 credits for non donators is 25 extra days (if you look the whole set) and I really reccomend EAC, ACD has the augumenting which is really irritating and the difference isn't in my opinion that big. Also ACD is too overpriced and was. For 2500 credits you can get an EAC weapon...

    Just my opinion, but don't forget everyone has their own opinions :)
     
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    It's not just magic resist on the plates. Like I said on my previous post, that 200+ HP have let me bail out alive out of 1 vs 3 or 5 after killing 1 or 2 of them.

    Here's my main point.
    - You have EAC, you're soloing and met a group of 3. You engaged them and died before being able to kill 1 of them because you didn't have the extra stats ACD has over EAC. Look at it this way, if you had that extra 200+ HP, it would have let you kill 1 of them at least.

    Now, what's the point in having EAC set when it didn't help you enough to at least kill 1 out 3? If you had even just ABG, the result would have been the same, you'll die without killing 1 of them. Where did the reason why you bought EAC instead of sticking with ABG go? :>
     
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    if you get the same results with eac that you do with abg you have no reason to buy acd anyway since the stat difference between abg and eac is much more than eac to acd....
     
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    Exactly my point except that you reversed it and put things the other way around :3
     
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    The only reason for anyone to buy acd set is the MACRO function. If you dont need macro and you are fine with 1 set then you also dont need ACD set and you'd be better off with an eac set which is the exact same thing (excluding the super minimal difference) but a lot cheaper market wise.

    I bought acd sets so that i can macro them with my eac sets. For example,on my templar my acd set is my MR set while my EAC Set is my hybrid attack/tank set. I couldnt do that with 2 acd sets nor with 2 eac sets,so i ended up buying 1 of each.. If i had the chance to get the elyos version of eac,then i wouldnt have bought an acd set.
     
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    Uh well my friend u got some good arguments i cant fight against...

    But yeah idk that much but there is a big difference in abg and eac, thats 100%for cloth anc 90% for chain but idk bout plate and leather. However idk why on my temp i use abg helm, if ure going fpr block ncsoft hasnt put any block on acd >_>
     
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    I only use glasses,helms/hoods and so on are more than useless. I am better off with shitloads of MR/parry/block that glasses have to offer rather than 2% pvp defense,as if its gonna matter in the end. Get master carved elatrite glasses for parry and block or NHDE Malevite glasses for MR,those are LE BEST! Check them on database. If you insist on wearing a helm with pvp defense,then NCC helm is the best.. If you are a gladiator,then go for GPP Helm.

    LE END.
     
  20. Stark

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    Yea, it's a bit of disappointment that AC Helm do not have block / parry but the 100+ mr on it, I guess it make up for them especially here where there are 10% godstones XD
     
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