what stat is this???

Magic Supression

 

So if you Augment 1 and 2 - Total Magic suppression is 111+32+36=179??

 

Yes almost everything in aion augment, conditioning, gear equip bonuses, fused weapons, etc stacks. There are a few exceptions like attackspeed.



Here you wont get 24% aspd, you will only get the higher one (16%)

And here:


You don't get 36%, you get the higher of the 2, (19%)

The only way to stack speed is to mix casting speed and attack speed like this:



Or to get it from Different sources (title + scroll + wing + 1weapon)

 

wow!! Thank yoouuuuuu Halpin!!

one last question about this..

The only way to stack speed is to mix casting speed and attack speed like this:
So in your example: which speed is the one that comes out? Is it attack speed or casting speed? And is it 2.2 +19%?

Is this kind of fuse only good for casters or can also be done for melee to increase attack speed?

Thanks again.

 

There are no other weapons that gives Casting Speed additional percentage except from Orb and Tome which can be fused, and maces which cannot be fused. So you cannot actually have a spear with attack speed and casting speed percentage on them just like what you see on Halpin's provided screenshot of his Orb because there is no spear with Casting speed percentage, only Attack speed.

As for the option being taken, if you have attack speed on top or bottom and casting speed on top or bottom, you get both options. If both attack speed or casting speed, you get only the highest option. And it is the percentage (%), not the decimal.

Everything counts/adds to your stats as long as it's not darken (refer to Halpin's 2nd screenshot and look at the bottom Attack speed percentage stat. It is darker than the other options it means it doesn't add). So if it's 2.2 (the speed of the weapon itself) or 19% (what you normally get from fusing weapons), you get both.

 

Do you get 2.2 casting speed and 19% atk speed or
does it become all atk speed (19+2.2=21.2 atkspeed) or
does it become all cast speed (19+2.2=21.2 cast speed)?

Tnx for clearing this up.

 

Refer to this screenshot provided earlier as I explain everything below.

(Photo by Halpin)

First, if it says Attack Speed then it's Attack Speed. If Casting Speed then Casting Speed. If the option says 2.2 Attack Speed then you get that 2.2 "Attack" Speed - you always get this option from all the weapons (Base Attack Speed stat). If you see 19% Casting Speed then you get that 19% "Casting" Speed provided that all classes in Aion have Attack Speed and Casting Speed stats. (Press "P" in-game. Go tab 1. There you can see your Attack Speed. Now to tab 3, the Casting Speed. These stats are very useful to all Aion classes).

So if you try putting the two together, yes. You get both the 2.2 Attack Speed and the 19% Casting Speed. They do NOT add with each other and become one option. They add up to your stats as they are. You can even have 2.2 Attack Speed and 19% Attack Speed. They will still add up.

As Halpin already explained, there are exceptions. If your main weapon has Attack Speed percentage (the one with this sign %) on it and you fuse it with a weapon with Attack Speed, you only get the highest Attack Speed (again, as you can see on Halpin's 2nd screenshot). If the percentage on the main weapon is Attack Speed and the bottom is Casting Speed (and vice versa), you get "both"!

 

Got it thanks for putting up with a dummy. ^.^

 

To prevent confusion, think of it like this:
Cast speed is any skill that has a cast bar.
Attack speed is anything that involves your character doing an animation.

In the example of the tome having 2.2 atk speed and 19% atk speed reduction. It equates to having 1.782 atk speed. [2.2 - (2.2*0.19)]
While the default cast speed is 1.0 and with a tome that reduces 19% cast speed, you'll have 0.81 cast speed. (1.0 - 0.19)

 

Im not quite sure what you want to explain in woc2 you cant compare the wings to other items like weapon.. in ofc you will get the 24% attack speed of woc2 for example my attackspeed gs sword with woc1 with scroll & candy is 1.3 not really sure coz im not ol in ingame for now. but with woc2 you dont have to used scroll or candy but you can get 1.2 attack speed cap in your GS sword. like Polearm/Spear the attack speed cap is 1.4 you can attain this apsd cap only by woc2 if you have woc1 by just using scrolls & foods you cant achieve same apsd.

 

Thanks so much to all who replied! I really really appreciate it!

 

here comes le math

 

You do get +24% from the wings, but your attack speed can't lower anymore because of the Attack Speed Cap (it is 50% of the indicated in the weapon, i.e. Spear has 2.8, the attack speed cap is 1.4, Orb has 2.2, the attack speed cap is 1.1).

 

Thanks Guiilleh, always good to learn something new. However i think the cap you are speaking of is a theoretical soft cap. I'm pretty much a nub and with button mashing or weaving i can get 1.0 aspd with spear and that's without using GCS or WOC. I'm not just making that number up, i chose a fixed number of seconds and then added all my attacks (auto attack + skils) i did in that time.

ALthough i don thave Woc, with woc1 and GCS i should be easily in the 0.7-0.8 aspd range. Compare this to the theoretical cap of 1.4 for spears.

I know people will say "it doesn't actually increase your speed, just speed up animation" or whatever. But the fact is i'm already at 1.0 aspd WITHOUT scroll .. explain that.

 

You should not have 1.0 attack speed with a spear, if you are then you're most likely animation hacking lol.
The way you explained it sounds like animation cancelling, you interrupt a skill/weave animation by performing another action hence making it seem very fast.
Go weave (normal attack) a training dummy with your spear (without adding any other actions) and you'll see how slow it suppose to be.

The attack speed cap is the hard cap, not a theoretical one. There is noticeable differences between a Assassin with 0.78aspd compared to a Gladiator with 1.4aspd. You can achieve more than 1skill hit per second if those skill has close to no animation. Rune Carve -> Sigil Strike is about 0.4second in total, that's how fast it is.
You are quite right about the "not speed but animation" line. The aspd refers to normal attacks per second, not number of skills performed per second. Some skills has very heavy animation, while others have close to none hence the faster your character's animation (determined by aspd), the faster you can chain off skills.

 

Gettin highlighted are u sure you get 1.0 in spear w/o scroll up or woc1? even woc2 cant get apsd like that ur really good sir tehehe. u must using cheat engine SIR!!!! *caught*