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Discussion in 'Questions' started by asiack, Jun 7, 2013.

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  1. asiack

    asiack New Member

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    i have 2 questions about the weapons for glad/temp

    i play both classes and i actually wonder what are the best weapons for glad/temp?.

    i have seen many glad with greatswords while other uses spear.

    and same with templar.. sword or mace?
     
  2. Smartik1

    Smartik1 Walking F.A.Q. Forum Legend

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    It's a matter of preference xd I have even seen dual wielders. People never really agree on anything (same as the tome vs orb debate that has been going on for over 3 years now and people still can't agree)
     
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  3. Suhosin

    Suhosin Cafe Fairy Foreva! Forum Legend

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    I agree with smartik, people will never agree Lol
    but for me, I prefer spear A LOT over greatsword :D
     
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  4. Smartik1

    Smartik1 Walking F.A.Q. Forum Legend

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    Might be helpful if you explain why (whether it is purely due to visuals or other factors) so it helps them decide xd
     
  5. Headrush

    Headrush New Member

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    extend Greatsword for temp, just a suggestion
     
  6. Smartik1

    Smartik1 Walking F.A.Q. Forum Legend

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    Again, even spear/polearm can be extendable. You should mention why xD
     
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    Greatsword on a glad is faster than spear.... although Female glads with spear seem alot faster than male glads with spear, the speed doesn't change... if that theory was true then Aion is just messt up don't u think? Most glads use spear on a glad because it has the potential to burst your enemy with massive amount of damage if your lucky. with Greatsword, it does nice and steady high dmg, but it can never spike bursts like the spear can, in exchange it gives you more attack speed.

    For templars some use sword and shield caz it does more melee dmg than the mace does. But the mace has higher magical damage than the sword witch is good for magic smash/divine justice also it has higher Macc as well.

    for my personal preference, i choose spear over greatsword because i like doing high bursts dmg in raids. and for templars i prefer using mace caz i like using magic smash alot.
     
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    Finally an explanation xd Thanks. Never played melee classes so don't really have a clue as to why they choose their weapons. As a sorc it is all the same to me, either I keep my distance or I'm toast xD
     
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    imNeqs K I N G S Forum Legend

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    always had both on my glad... greatsword more attack speed more accuracy [ always using it for like 1x1 1x2] and always vs sorc ;) , and pole vs zergs because of better dmg.
     
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    Ddraig Steel of Destiny

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    Whatever makes you kick.

    Once I roamed in dual sword and a friend in dual mace.
    The advantages? Speed mostly, crazy speed, but you loose some skills and the dmg is lacking of course, but still it allowed fast dps and the godstone prompted higher cause of it.
    The mace was crazy because was always doing crit, no idea if because the stats or some bug, but it was constant crit.

    But it was all for fun, we managed to kill, sometimes it was even absurd that it seemed to be faster than with spears of Greatswords... So I think is a matter of trying and see what makes you kick. And most importantly, you are in it for fun. Everything else is, IMO, secondary.
     
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    mace over sword for templars, why?
    you'll miss the M.boost stats of the mace (for Magic Smash and D.justice)
    + Mace has a larger M.Accuracy than Sword
     
  12. Guille

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    In Lumiel, sure, gladi dual wield, but in Siel you lose a lot of skills.

    And yeah, as Tykimik said, female gladiators seem faster with spear than males, same with greatsword, male gladiators seem faster than females using greatsword.
     
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    Glad wise:
    DW: high single target DPS, but it's cheeky.Skills hit the same damage as 1 sword but crits deal the same as the maximum on spear...the fun part is that buffs mess it up - spear + berserk = higher skill damage than dw + berserk, but then again can't really compare a 1.3k spear crit to 2k dw autoattack
    -sword/sword - 0.9 atk speed, both weapons have bonus physical stats, prefered godstones: blind/silence, can reach max atk speed with candy (or title) + atk speed scroll and woc1
    -dagger/sword - 0.8 atk speed , main hand lacks about 20-40 attack which is about 1/3 in pvp, physical bonus stats, can reach max atk speed with candy (or title) + atk speed scroll and woc1
    -mace/mace - 0.9 atk speed (only caps at exactly 50% atk speed which is impossible unless woc2, the candy+title+woc1 and scroll add up to 49% and it stays at 1.0), damage is the same as dual sword, lacks crit but has more macc, 1500+mboost hence dual 2% 1880 dmg stones are good on it , DON'T BOTHER UNLESS YOU'RE RICH AS **** AND WANT IT FOR PVE...the lvl 60 pvp weapons have cast speed so that's bad
    -dagger/mace - kill yourself, this is bad and if you read what i wrote above you'll know it
    -dagger/dagger - same as d/s but with 50more crit, 20 less atk
    -sword/mace - read dagger/mace

    main flaw of dw: around 70% of the damage comes from weaving so if your ping ain't 2 digit (or god forbid:less) it's not that good of an idea
    slows down combos
    has no random knockdown proc
    berserk adds less damage on the skills (but hey who wouldn't wanna do 6k weaves with zerk+2k+4k+ferocity)
    also if you're gonna use 1 extend you're losing 5% pvp attack, and if you don't - enjoy running around after everyone complaining that you can't do anything besides cleave
    the only aoes you can use are rupture/shattering/earthquake wave, no cast skills too
    GS: has about 200 more accuracy than spear (talking about ddl/hac and most endgamish gear), stable damage (a spear can hit 100 more/less while a gs has constant 10-20 more/less) and it's faster
    the high accuracy and atk speed make it good versus physical classes (sin/ranger/chanter/glad/temp) since they are all quite vulnerable to it i suggest blind godstone (or use paralyze on everything you can equip in your weapon slot)
    Spear:less accuracy and slower, the only reason you might want to take one of these is non-extend for when you feel that primal urge to jump in with your trusty healer in the middle of 15 people and spam any and every aoe possible, if you use a non-extend then the minimum damage will be gs-tier and the maximum will be about 200 more (300 on crits), the only use i can think of for an extend spear is for bursting down clerics (gonna have to sacrifice a few manastones for accuracy if you don't wanna get blocked and made a fool of) and sorcs.

    ah yes, apparently male glad has faster animations with gs, fem with spear (but that came up from the guys who say extendable weapons are faster when not remodelled so ...yeah)



    Templar
    Sword: since we got ddl weapons in 3.0 (or 3.5, cba to check) sword is inferior to mace in everything except 0.1 atk speed and 40 crit (4%)
    Mace: the ddl one has physical stats the last time i checked so
    -pros:higher base damage, higher magic accuracy (y'all niggas need this cause you ain't got slaughter to boost it up 24/7) actual mboost for magic smash/the-stun-that-i-can't-remember-the-name-of, better audio effects on autoattacks(doesn't matter with power shards)
    -cons:4% less crit, 0.1less attack speed, can't use non-extend cause all the pvp maces in 3.0 are cast speed (but then again who'd use one ?)



    feel free to ruthlessly remind me anything i might have missed out on
     
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    Guille i am chillermo Forum Legend

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    Nope, pretty complete
     
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    i think 2 digit pings mostly benefit the use of GS as for glad...coz they can maximized the attack speed....but for 3 digits ping not really high advantage but that was just for me >.<
     
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    The reason for doing something that might have no sense justifies it. I did it for fun.
     
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    for me i prefer extendable spear as a primary weapon for glads, when you get used to kiting extendables rly helps alot when facing sorcs and rangers, you can also troll other melee classes w/ it but you'll surely loss accuracy

    as for templars, like what the majority said mace and shield
     
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    1h sword has higher damage chance than 2h greatsword or mace. bp with a 1h hac sword can hit as hard or harder than a 2h hac greatsword.
     
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    on glad for me best is spear ('cause of high dmg)...but if i would play with a GS i would only try an extendable one like DDL xD.
    .....however for temp i would go for mace(most of cases cause of MB).
     
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    That's not actually possible, but then again you are talking about the most messed up skill and we're in a pserver. 'Cause up to 3.0 bp was % of weapon's damage, like a mace would be 1700-2500 and a gs would be 2500-3000, now it's "fixed" by having the values 2806-2810 for every weapon so there's no way a sword could hit higher than a gs.....buuuut gamez.
     
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