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New Starter PVP Gear

Discussion in 'Problems' started by Bazztian, Oct 1, 2013.

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  1. Bazztian

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    uhm ... the New Starter Gear is realy nice but why Warriors get Chain Gear ???
     
  2. Puddles

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    We'll check that out,

    Yea, its either Chain or not equipped due to warriors not having plate equip skill.
     
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  3. Bazztian

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    Thx ^^ would be nice before i remake my Gladiator ^^
     
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    and Priest get Magic Lether Set please change it
     
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    will check that out also

    Yea they get magic leather. will let the admin/s know
     
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  6. Puddles

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    Its the same situation as with Warriors.

    Warriors and Priests both do not attain their Plate / Chain equip skills till after level 9, so again it is kinda either we give you it equipped, or it sits in your inventory un-equiped to start till you reach the appropriate level.

    Your pick, however despite the armor type discrepancy (which mind you is not that horrible), we feel it somewhat appropriate to allow the new characters and players the opportunity to be able to use their starter gear when they start, not having to struggle though to level 50+ as it was before hand.
     
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    so the Priest and the Warrior is going to be handicapped or will it be fixed soon ?
     
  8. Puddles

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    It isn;t so much a handicap as what they are able to equip for leveling.

    The sets they are given, in fact Priests getting magical leather, instead of the normal Chain Set which was designed for Chanters is a slight boost to the Priest - Cleric - Chanter though the levels they will be going, as well as instances. The same can be said for Warriors whos main downfall though leveling is anything magical based. Now, with the inherent MR stats on Chain gear, this also gives a boost to the Gladiators and Templar who use it.

    Or, would you prefer, giving players items they cannot used until they hit level 50? I mean, really that would handicap them slightly more do you not think? They would have to still wait to equip things and level slower than they can now along with doing instances slightly better possibly due to the stats given on those armor sets.

    Yes, I will say that they do lose a little in the physical defense portion; however there was a time when Glads and Temps ran around with MR chain sets all the time. Magical Leather will give a cleric much more of a boost in the DPS spells depending on what tree they go for Lumiel, and if on Siel? I don't know many who run around with mboost to compensate for MR. Of course, you could argue that we are harming future Cleric and Chanters ability to be MR built.

    Not going to sugar coat? You would be correct. Yet, the fact still remains these items are starter gear meant to assist players in leveling, and getting into pvp while having the ability to gain what is needed for higher tier sets. Seeing how we have recently unlocked a vast majority of things which were planned to be unlocked and let in game, from Crucible Items, to EAC and such what not.

    Would you suggest that, we should give them a secondary set as well so that they may freely interchange with it upon hitting the correct level and just hold their hands though everything or should we let them explore the game, play in instances with groups and not get their bums reamed. Get a taste of PvP as you guys say it is all zerg fights, and managing to keep yourself alive in a zerg is rather doable while trying to earn some AP and Medals, Insignia for the other gear mentioned.

    Now, if we were to give them a secondary set, what would we give the other classes? A duplicate set just so they can have two? Or what? Not give them two sets and then have people say it is unfair that these two starting classes get two sets and we get one?

    Either way, it is not something that would be fixed as it is a benefit to new players, and older players alike to not have to have per-existing gear for a character to do the content in the game and participate with others while not being left out of either things.

    While also, if you consider the fact that we have made the gear Automatically be equipped upon creation of a character. How would they even benefit from those two types of armor being Plate, and Chain, when they do not have the prerequisite passive skills to equip and utilize those? What we have done here is allow them to have a set which while may not be the best, is workable for the classes in more ways that just:

    'Oh, its not Chain or Plate, I can't use this because its not my end game gear I want the right gear before I can even use it because they should just make it work like that'

    Wish we could make it work like that, but we can't.
     
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    The new gift is GPP/APP as far as i heard? If that's the case then they might as well just leave the warrior set as is (chain) because it is considerably better than GPP/APP plate.

    Just saying.
     
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    No -.- u dont understand what i mean

    i dont want 2 sets ...
    i want to replace the chain set with Plate and magic leather with chain ... nothing else more ...
    realy quick change id in gameserver or database ... nothing more ... ur developer can make it sure realy quick ...
    i dont want to prefer any class buts only better that the Warrior/Priest get the Items/Set thats from the game scheduled for it ...
    thats the point nothing more ....


    Yea ok ...
    hmm maybe its ok with Chain but there some ppl will have Plate and they only put them the chance to choose ...
    if someone will play with chain on Temp the are going to make a Priest ...
    make lv 20 replace the chain gear with crap put the chain on Warrior and delete priest ...
    but now they have no choise ... thats the point ....
     
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    Honestly I think I see what the GM's are trying to do. In all honesty they are trying to help the new people not supply the old with gear. Being that the new people may know almost nothing they will accept the gear. What the GM's are hoping is that those of us who know what were doing will accept and HELP these new people, therefore making Gamez Aion a newbie friendly server. I think its a wonderful idea as it will bring more people together and help us all learn to be a little more accepting of new people we don't know. So thank you GM's for trying to help us better ourselves and others.
     
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