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New PVP System

Discussion in 'GamezAION General Discussion' started by piscoumorreu, Oct 7, 2013.

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  1. Clubs

    Clubs Retired Forum Legend

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    I post this for you cuz you are smart.

    Transfer system has been buggy since the start, it's extremely dissuading for any players to leave for fear of not having an accessible character. A majority of Siel's population doesn't speak English so articulating them through is nigh on impossible. The PvPers who might want to transfer would lose their kills and AP, the thing that barely validates their pvp efforts. People are instant gratification seekers, they aren't going to aim at any time zone to login, they login when they want to login. Sure it would solve a ton of problems if people just went to Lumiel, but they won't, you should just give up trying.

    Requires developers who have actually played this game before (which we don't).

    Taking some of the most purchased items out of the store? Not gonna happen.

    Good idea, but would first require the GM commands to be updated which hasn't happened forever. Plus it's not like our HGM would like to give up any of her powers to others. It would also again require developers who have played this game before (which again, we don't). Also, takes away money from the Item mall, which as we have learnt in the years past, is a big nono.

    When have viable incentives ever been offered in this server? A good idea that has been mentioned before but will forever be ignored. Also server transferring is another way Carl makes money, why would he give that one up?

    The amount of late night MSN conversations with Alente on all of this; let's just say this server is doomed. Why you think you don't see the admin anymore? I know you are trying to voice your frustrations but you are yelling at a brick wall. The matter of fact is you gotta accept the flaws and keep playing or get fed up and move on for brighter horizons (like a majority of the worthwhile players that once inhabited this server).
     
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  2. Stephen

    Stephen I always chill bruh

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  3. Stark

    Stark ᴘ ʀ ɪ ᴍ ᴇ ʀ ᴀ Forum Legend

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    You have left the game so I guess I can't blame you for having no idea of what's happening here. Not sure if you know that he unlocked the level 60 eternal Abyss items from the NPCs as well as all the items from the coliseum NPCs. This is the only reason why I even posted what I posted here and bothered mentioning things that have been mentioned before.

    In short, I still have a tiny bit of hope for this server after the previous update. I mean, who would have thought we'll be able to get EAC / ACD items from the NPCs this early?

    At the very least, I'm still trying to be somehow positive towards the current state of the server which might help you and which might benefit you in the feature if you ever come back instead of being negative which would not help at all.
     
  4. Akikaze

    Akikaze Elohim, Essaim...I implore you Forum Legend

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    Some of these ideas are actually good and viable. However Clubs did point out a very good point is that we're lacking Devs to make every suggestion possible. Nevertheless, keep the suggestions coming, with some fine tuning, probably can get some of them to work.
     
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  5. cocosul

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    may i have a transform potion? just t calm down zergs:D
     
  6. nicolas0707

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    yes it is considering you find some1 who runs solo which most of the time is not the case :p,
    exactly they wont give u same courtesy of leaving u alone if ur getting zerged they would jump on u to , so i do same why leave

    point 1 = agreed
    point 2 = agreed
    point 3 = cant say dont have a legion :)
    Para 4 = agreed but as u said its up to players so that aint gonna happen cause ppl wont change no matter what u do, seen that time
    and time again.

    spending 1.5 k is not much , considering its working flawlessly , as i have seen quite a few times ppl having issues with server transfer, which i hope is fixed soon,

    Remove Godstones ? = Not going to happen for obvious reasons

    ya making special chests drops all around the world in aion maps is a good idea but it shouldnt be Super rare and Super easy to for example make it so that in 1 day 10 chests all over different maps will drop = both asmo and elyos. 5 for ely 5 for asmos all in random places random mobs or elite random mobs so not to make it to easy will give ppl some time to search for them , and the better the reward the more ppl will go hunt them. ofc not close to safe zones or anything it should be in locations where ely / asmo can search without intereference and also in locations where asmo and ely might have to fight back eachother, for mobs(if not random mob special mobs that spawn on specific times or so in random locations but will be only 10 mobs in whole aion maps)

    the main reason many ppl wont leave or change server are their ranks, some rank 5 star some army generals , army great generals and so on, this rank they dont wanna lose , for this reason some dont even go pvp to much and stay safe or if they do go , will be acompanied by 2-3 healers or zergs , losing the kill count and rank is something some ppl wont accept, imaging ur rank army great general and u change server start from scrath? some might find it challanging , but not all, as u already see not many ppl with high ranks do nothing just sit around in safe zones and watch or duel in santum/pandemonium

    sounds like a good idea to merge both servers, have mix feelings bout that, would be gr8 to have stigma systems back to, then some ppl will understand the value of skillz, right now we are all getting stuff for free skillz stigmas and all, and u can use all ur skillz from both trees, try doing same with limited slots of stigmas then some ppl will understand how hard it is to kill with limited skillz even with OP gears.

    ya would agree on that to, i mean imagine going against a all stigma templar with Amba set and you are on APP- GPP as per the free perks new ppl are getting how badly will u get pawned eevn if u have full stigmas like them, or even worst Gunner..

    glad to hear atlease some1 agrees and is looking at all the suggestions and ideas and not just ignoring them as ppl whining (> and hoping things change or can be learned from.
     
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    just read something veryy interesting, that could make the high ranks move there bums and pvp more then just stay back and bask in the glory of their high rank while being afk
    [h=2]New Honor Points system[/h] In the latest Aion 4.5 update, new PvP ranking system was introduced – Honor Points system! That does this system change? Basically, it “force” high ranking players (1-Star Officers + ) to be active, otherwise they will lose theirs Honor Points (and rank) everyday! No more “farming a millions of AP and staying lazy” [​IMG] Then this new system went live on Korean 4.5 PTS all current Abyss Points and ranks were calculated again. The more AP you owned, the more Honor Points you got (AP items stored in the bank/inventory weren’t calculated so you must exchange them before this change goes live on normal servers if you want to have a higher rank).
    Players who are below level 50 or have less than 30,000 AP didn’t receive Honor Points.

    After the change every player will have two systems to calculated Abyss Ranks.

    • Soldiers Rank 9 to 1 are still calculated based on Abyss Points (these ranks do not own Honor Points)
    • Officers 1-Start to Army Governor are calculated based on Honor Points (they still own Abyss Points but they are not the base to calculate 1-Officer + ranks any more)
    How to obtain Honor Points

    • Sieges – in Katalam / Danaria (win +100-300 points, lose +50-150 points), Upper Abyss (win +100-200 points, lose +50-100 points)
    • PvP Instances – Ophidan Battleground 6vs6 (up to 50 points), Kamar Battlefield 12vs12 (up to 50 points), Eternal Battlefield 24vs24 (win 150 points + 50/20 points from quests)
    • Arena of Glory – (up to 300 points)
    • Instances – Killing Hyperion in Infinity Shard (600 points, divided for all 12 players sp 50 each).
    • Quests – Blood Marks daily (3 points each) and weekly quests (100 points)
    How many Honor Points you lose

    • Players don’t lose Honor Points, if they are killed by other player or monster.
    • Players lose Honor Points automatically everyday – The higher is your rank (Officer 1-Star + ) the more Honor Points you lose everyday (so players need to be active to not lose theirs ranks).
    • Players with Rank 9-1, don’t lose Honor Points (coz they have none) and also theirs lose of Abyss Points while being killed by other player was decreased.
    • Buying Abyss items only decrease your Abyss Points, not Honor Points.
    [TABLE]
    [TR]
    [TD]Rank[/TD]
    [TD]Amount of Honor Points lost per day[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]Army Governor[/TD]
    [TD]498[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]Army Commander[/TD]
    [TD]358[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]Army Great General[/TD]
    [TD]344[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]Army General[/TD]
    [TD]335[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]Army 5-Star Officer[/TD]
    [TD]300[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]Army 4-Star Officer[/TD]
    [TD]102[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]Army 3-Star Officer[/TD]
    [TD]62[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]Army 2-Star Officer[/TD]
    [TD]32[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]Army 1-Star Officer[/TD]
    [TD]17[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [/TABLE]
     
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  8. zakku44

    zakku44 Annoying Zergling

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    this idea seem nice... will surely stop those arrogants from boasting about their ranks and kills being so high XD
    WE NEED 4.5! lolololol
     
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    This will make the server populated again otherwise you will loose those points, should be the purpose for doing such. No matter siel or lumiel, im being optimistic that both server will stay long and be more active...
     
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    Pretty depressing when even management has given up.
     
  11. janghozt123

    janghozt123 Click Here

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    i would like to suggest to lower the price of the shop like before...we all no we can't multivote (this is only the truth) and we can only do now is to donate...and lower the price of 1$=100 ,,mybe make it 1$=200...
     
  12. nicolas0707

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    :tongue:Request Denied :tongue:
     
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    im not requesting ..im suggesting..i think its different

    sug·gest (s[​IMG]g-j[​IMG]st[​IMG], s[​IMG]-j[​IMG]st[​IMG])tr.v. sug·gest·ed, sug·gest·ing, sug·gests1. To offer for consideration or action; propose: suggest things for children to do; suggested that we take a walk.

    re·quest
    (r[​IMG]-kw[​IMG]st[​IMG])tr.v. re·quest·ed, re·quest·ing, re·quests1. To express a desire for; ask for. Often used with an infinitive or clause: requested information about the experiment; requested to


     
  14. nicolas0707

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    hahahaha, pfff psshhhh grammer, :p :tongue:suggestion denied :tongue:
     
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    Ranking system is garbage to me, I could care less about if I'm Govenor (was once) or whatever or what not. That doesn't concern me, however what has always plagued Aion are the class balances or lack there of.

    The fact that Gamez Aion "tries" to be as close to official (Lumiel at least) as possible is actually nice, however if they were to truly push the effort into making Gamez Aion a balanced class mentality, meaning that they would sway from being official but to cater unofficially into balancing the classes then I'm all for it.

    Years ago their was a Lineage 2 private server that opted to put effort into balancing the classes, because Official Lineage 2 much like Aion had Magic/long range classes dominating the majority of the PvP. Because of the unofficial changes for that L2 private server, the PvP fights were 100000000x more interesting to watch & even better were the amount of viable classes that which you could use.

    Personally I would actually like an unofficial change for class improvements but it would require tweaking from the admins part.

    Either that...Aion is what it is...and we simply have to deal with it :sad:
     
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  16. piscoumorreu

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    Sorry DOndee, in this server a GM saying that it is playing just fine.... sorry again but Gamez is not an example of compliance/impartiality. I am not being specific and in advance my apologies if I offend you, I just want to express my point of view regarding to Gamez GM roles.

    Back to the point.
    This was Alente's statment on 22/07:
    So where it is ?

    As I said Full MR chars hitting like they were full anything oposite... maybe they are good players.
    But the math just doesn't fit.... something in the server's mechanics is not right... aside the bugs of course.
    So If Alente said something about PVP balance I'd like to know when it will start to work.
     
  17. piscoumorreu

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    This is what I'm talking about.... I'm not a full donate set, but I can assure may set is pretty good.

    Look the pic..... it is clear the asmo is full MR thus it souldn't be possible to have 78% more damage using the same skill...

    [​IMG]
     
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    In next update the Governor Parts i think will increase by 4,000 K credits. Thats what i am thinking ryt now. From ABG per parts that cost with 2k then now the new item it cost 3k lol. Your loosing players.. You should think the negative sides of it. Enable those small stuffs like the Sillion item, Veille Quests, 5% speed a quest from reshanta and etc. So that others players may not easily get bore. This is not the gamez that we played before. Even the DLR the drops is not dropping with mythic item even if it drop it will just give you one mythic items even ur vip.
     
  19. vesiinabox

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    Bard is a very bad example for an mr char hitting hard because they have 2600 Mb or more in a full mr set. Thus they can still hit really damn hard. Oh and their skillls are just crazy op dmg anyways.
    On a class like spiritmaster or sorc the damage difference between mr and MB is huge its like a 200% damage increase between my mr set and mb set...even though i use mr set 24/7 because I know how to max my damage without using magic boost.
    As for class balance did you ever stop to think that he meant that the class balance was about to go down the shitter? lol not that it was going to get better.
     
  20. cocosul

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    I don't play bard a lot...if u have a bard and a sm/sorc I suggest u to make a dlr run and compare the dmg from the boss aoes, on bard and sm/sorc. bards get about 50% dmg less for no reason.
     
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