low lvl AP reducation

hello...i think u all know what i mean with AP reduce....is a pain in the ass and it shouldent be like this in PVP server...some time ago was like 10% players low lvl but this days is more than half of them :S is hard to find a player worth of killing xD

well to explain it...many players make lvl 60 or lvl 55 chars to lose small amount of AP (like 5K on 4-star i think (normal is 32K)) when killed....but when u kill him u get like zero AP... for example i killed low lvl 4-star ranger and gain 925 AP (with premium)... i killed it alone with no help of any guard/monster so im shure i got all amout of AP...

some of u will say: "their dmg is lower than and they dont have all skills and cant use best gear..."
About gear i agree but ranger dont rly need top gear to shoot from behind and deal great damage... and about dmg...mau form ranger lvl 55 can hit me 1.2K with stone skin on my temp (amba geared temp) or around 2.5K hits without buffs...that is like 200hit points difference as i get from lvl 65 ranger....

So my suggestion is to turn off that AP reduce for last 10 lvls (55-65) or reduce their pvp attak for some amout (like penalty of being low lvl)... afterall is PVP server and all instances has no lvl restriction so that should not be an excuse for being low lvl...

I dont know if i posted in right section so feel free to move this thread where it belongs

 

Dude, there is no point in complain about ap man, high AP doesnt mean the player is good, u cannot xform, u will be zerged all the time and looks like u dont need AP rank for the new sets in gamez aion. so there is no point in complain about AP LOL.

 

Yes sure, you have a point.

But.. gaining a lot of Ap from a high rank kill is surely some kind of satisfaction.. I agree that rangers can hit pretty hard even if they are level 55, even on my templar oftentimes lol.. And it is kind of annoying to kill a commander ranger and get only 2500 ap, its actually a waste of time and effort to even try to hit that guy.. rank 5 people would probably give me more AP than him. Fine, by being level 55 or 60 they have some disadvantages and if you had asked me a few months ago id say that it was ok to lose less ap and give less ap for being lower level than the rest, but i have also noticed an increasing amount of low level rangers everywhere and it's starting to get on my nerves. When i kill a high rank i wanna be getting 50k ap, not 1k >.> Because if they get to kill me they ll get enough AP for their 80 deaths >.>

Something might have to be done about this issue o,o

Those people are still able to pvp just fine, they dont have any kind of disability.. their damage and defense might be a little bit lower and there should be some kind of compensation for that, but i think the rates are way off now.. we should at least get Half the normal Ap from them and they should at least lose half the normal AP after dying. Right now they are just AP machines, i wonder if anyone's made a level 55 gunner yet (oh yeah! :ninja:.. though last i checked on magical classes being lower level would result to a huge resist rate "which is not as bad on physical classes such as rangers").

 

I suggest that the title of this thread is LEVEL REQUIREMENTS.

It really sucks when i killed a Star officer player but level 60 only. Like the commander kawanua, i already killed him in a 1on1 battle but i only got like 6k ap (im not a VIP). And this LPZ (Lvl 55) from elyos (The great general i suppose) i killed him many times then i just put into a ARIEL's CURSE (Not sure but about the name, but the effect is your movement speed decrease) and guess what, the ap i gained from him really sucks. And this LPZ can kill a level 65 player, see?

So you know my point here, many level 55-60 players becomes star officer because of their level, and when they become general,great general etch etch, few ap will reduce from them when they die, but when they killed a general or great general they will get the exact ap from it. It is also right that they don't have all the skills and damage but for a level 60 ranger not enough skills are not so important (I guess). This players are very coward because they dont want to be a level 65 so when they die a few ap only reduce them lols. And still they can keep their rank stable.

Sorry for my bad english lol( Just check if there are wrong grammars)

 

As far as i know they get more ap from level 65 characters, more than normal. I might be wrong though since ive never had a twink like that.

 

Them cheaters.

 

Yes this is true.

 

as far as i know the killer get what u lose (if he has VIP or premium he get more but that is calculated after he get normal amount of AP)... So they dont get more.....but they lose less and if we think about that "u give as much as u lose rule" that commander that Bud killed lost 2.5K AP and if he would kill him he would gain so much that he could suiciding himself for all day long and would still have more as on the start and that is NOT FAIR!

Riipper said is no use of getting AP.... lol man how do u buy abyss HP potions?? how u get gear (if u dont donate)?? and how u augment gear?? just think about it i lose 32K AP if i die...some ppl lose even more...and when i go suicide myself to kill one "easy target" before i die and i get like 900 AP.....well i think is not just me that is angry about it... is annoying because u cant rly know who is low lvl and even if u know and he is good DPS u MUST take it down before other or he kill u in some time anyway....

So i dont see a way how we could play normaly...this MUST be changed!

P.S: tnxx for supporting my thread guys....i hope GM/AM see that and do something about it...i was already trying whisper to some but they dont rly care about that thingy because most of them dont know how annoying this is :S

 

if u dunt wanna get zerged..dun keep ur ap,easy.....or just stay still on other place dun pvp EVER...

 

well i play aion because i like to PVP i dont always die in zerg...but when i die i like to get back what i lost so that is the problem this days i like my rank and i worked hard for it...so i dont wanna spend all that AP and rank me down... but if i must kill 20 players to die once... hmmm that sux a bit yea most of us...high ranks and lvl 65 play like chickens...u run and kill then just back off because is not worth to try if there is high chance of death...and that is not rly PVP...so we all just camp and hide in zergs because we know that we cant get back AP if we run around and die few times...i remember few weeks ago when i went with wind in katalam i saw many red dots under me...now is a miracle if u see 1 or if u see 1 there is 10 more near it xD

 

I totally am in agreed with this thread (even the name of it) it's a waste of time and effort to try to kill one of these coward specimens, so please, KEEP THIS THREAT ALIVE, for a healthier gameplay and in the search of a REALLY BALANCED PVP.

 

Well I think I made my point about this issue quite clear in the past:

http://forum.gameznetwork.com/f63/ap-gain-loss-155135/

http://forum.gameznetwork.com/f66/ap-wipe-149490/

Always supported by many, yet nothing changed.

It got even worse in 4.0 since now lvl 60 Rangers still can wear HAC items... which are really decent. Except for the PVP-% stats they are superior to Ambassador/Custodian and only slightly worse than Arbiter gear and all the gears don't even have any rank requirements anymore.

The solution would be quite simple though:
Disable .noxp and the loss of XP when getting killed by mobs. Makes no sense on a highrate server to begin with.

 

yea well there are many easy made solutions we just need one person of staff to CARE about that

 

While I do not consider it cheating. I do think is unfair.
I would like to ask for some for of penalty for those people.

 

All players must be level 65 to PVP!

 

yea would be nice