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double rules for some ppl!

Discussion in 'Problems' started by pajkec2031, Jan 14, 2014.

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  1. pajkec2031

    pajkec2031 Proficient

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    i dont know if u saw my thread about gaining low amount AP from lvl 60 or 55 enemys but as that is not enough gamez went even further.....btw none staff member replied to that thread than!

    Elyos Army Governor/Commander Kawanua and Asmodian Army Governor Governor were FORCED to be lvl 65 and others are still running around at lvl 55 and 60....

    so make ALL 55 (if somebody go play with lvl 50 gear i dont care but lvl 55 top gear for ranger is pretty good) players automatic lvl 65 (this wont make ppl do any profit as long as lvling from 55 to 65 takes like 10min time and all surveys u get on lvl 55 anyway...) OR DO NOT FORCE JUST SOME PPL TO LVL UP BECAUSE THEY ARE GOOD (or because one player cry about it so he can keep his rank and he is a friend with staff members...i wont put out names about this but i think we all know how it is)

    Gamez was the best pvp server long time ago and all players were happy to play on it...new players stayed and didnt even think of searching for other servers when they came to us...but now even old players consider of leaving or most of them are playing on other servers for PVP and staying here only because of some friends....pvp on gamez is literally dead! is just zerging and camping at safezones and AP grinding with low lvl chars who can suicide each time when they kill one enemy, because they gain 10x more as they lose!

    I hope i didnt offend anyone or say anything i should not...i hope u wont ignorre this thread too like some others (or probably u just didnt found them because were under suggestions...)

    i hope u soon find a solution about this problem because it is out for too long now! a non donator can only obtain lvl 60 gear atm so there is no point of being lvl 65 if u cant get PVP gear for it ingame (u can in 2 years with voting but then will be new better gear and lvl 80 cap and low lvl 70 ppl xD).

    so before u push away this thread im begging you to put yourself in my skin (cant always vote (that IP thingy), cant donate (i cant spend money for game i hardly have enough for real life), play for a long time and rank means something to me, then i get 1K when kill 4-star enemy and lose 50K when die) and think about it.

    well i could go on and on but is already too long thread so that is it for now xD
     
  2. vesiinabox

    vesiinabox Death be chillin bitches. Forum Legend

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    So let me get this straight. Alente took the time to do this for you guys so that you all would actually get ap from the lower level commanders and your already complaining that it isnt enough? Ok so let me give you a bit of advice about your other points...Pvp for the mos part has moved to the Eye...there are no safe zones there and it is a wonderful solo map ..sure it can get zergy at times but whats awsome about this map is you dont have to join the zerg to see pvp. If your smart you will use the windstreams and passageways to your advantage to move around without ever getting caught...And these lower level people are at a huge disadvantage the cannot even wear the top two sets of gear which makes them incredibly easy to kill...and as for them being friends of "the staffs" ..personally I dont even know half the people on the abyss rank list...I know who the good pvpers are and generally speaking none of them are ever on the abyss ranks. I can also assure you that we do not show favoritism to anyone. Not that it would even matter if we tried its not our decision these things are decided by the admins only.
     
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    Hello and thanks for the feedback.

    Firstly let me clarify on exactly what we've done and why:

    As you've noted in your post players running around as low levels (sub-60 usually) tend to gain in advantage when it comes to accumulating AP, especially in zergs. They barely lose anything on death, gain a lot for any contribution to a kill (read: zerging), and give barely any AP when killed. For most players this is little more than a mild inconvenience and not really a big deal.

    The problems start to arise when these players hit the higher tiers (Great General, Commander, etc) - all of a sudden you have players running around with the highest ranks on the server with no feasible way to lose those rankings. They don't lose AP and no one gains anything for killing them. Suddenly their rank becomes a self-perpetuating benefit that no one can hope to take. While AP doesn't really matter on Gamez (gear restrictions being disabled along with transformations) the fact of the matter is people still care about AP at that tier and with our AP rates unintended behavior that you would never otherwise see like this occurs.

    I do not deny that some of these players are "skilled" but they're still playing the game with a loaded deck. So how to address it?



    The cruel and unusual punishment would be to remove their AP but that's obviously not fair so instead I have opted to increase their level. As an initial test case players above a certain threshold (50million AP if I recall rightly) have had their levels increased. They have not been punished, they have not been given an unfair disadvantage, they have simply been leveled onto a fair playing field with everyone else. Should this prove effective we will look at expanding that to lower AP brackets, probably just enough to encompass all Generals and higher, to ensure PvP is fair for those who wear high ranks.

    What you must bear in mind is that those in the top 10/20/50 brackets are the highest ranking players on the server, period. Out of thousands of players they are the highest of the high, leaders of armies, and (in theory anyway) good PvPers. It is outlandish to think that players who seek to rise to such heights should be immune from any loss to their rank when they're defeated. Now if you don't care about AP and simply want to PvP as a low level that's fine - don't accumulate huge amounts of AP. Hell I'm quite willing to delete someone's AP if they send me a mail request in-game.

    This has nothing to do with specific complaints about any one person but rather an overarching approach to deal with what I see as an issue. PvP isn't fair but that wont stop us from taking steps to address glaring balance issues.
     
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