Battlegrounds: Entrance and Prizes

Battlegrounds: Prizes and Entrance

When Gamez first hit 4.5, I thought Battlegrounds were a really nice addition to Gamez. PvP was mostly fair and much more fun than the usual Zerg vs. Zerg at Gelkamores.

The past few days on Lumiel, no one has been doing battlegrounds, except for the 1v1 (I'll explain why later).

I'll start by listing the few issues that exist right now imo:

Current Issues:

- Battlegrounds abuse:
Players can dual client or go against a friend and keep doing the 1v1s to keep gaining free ap.
Some legions even go to the free for all, and continuously fight each other for hours to rank up their legion.
Many players team up in the credits battlegrounds. While the player's names may be "Fighter", they can be on Skype or some other VoIP, telling each other "This is me! Focus on this guy!.." This ruins the point of the FFA credits battleground, since it makes it quite unfair for the rest to be honest. I am an assassin, so this does not affect me, though I have seen many get ganked up on.

- Bad prizes:
Winning a 1v1 awards the player 5k AP. Some other rewards consist of like 50k abyss points, some Blood Marks, and Mithril Medals. As for the mix fight pvp, there is nothing to gain. It is just a PvP place.

- Spread PvP:
Battlegrounds spread PvP a lot, that it dies at some areas. Gelk was empty when 4.5 first came out.

- Unnecessary battlegrounds (on Lumiel only I think):
Some battlegrounds require an insane amount of players that we have yet to do these battlegrounds on Lumiel yet. For example, I have yet to join a 4v4v4v4 bg or a King of the Hill bg. Same goes for the 40 and 20 players credits battlegrounds..
Some people keep doing instances to get the 50k Abyss Points.. lol.


Possible Fixes:

People abuse battlegrounds, since there is no entry limits on them and can keep entering the battlegrounds all the time. Others don't even do battlegrounds, because the prizes are really low. A possible fix may be:
- Have the battlegrounds spawn every 15 minutes or so.
- Don't spawn the battlegrounds for everyone. Turn them into commands.
- Increase the rewards to something better, perhaps more Blood Marks and Mithril Medals. May be even give 1 credit for every 5 kills made at a battleground.
- If too many players apply to the bgs, then only take a portion of players and enter them in.

This way, the players cant abuse the battlegrounds, since they don't know who is going in exactly. Also, players would most likely be PvPing at Gelkamores (meaning less spread pvp), and then enter the battlegrounds when they show up. When the bgs are over, they'd go back to Gelkamores. The point of the increased rewards is to encourage players to enter them.


As for the unnecessary battlegrounds, I doubt that Gamez would modify them specifically for Lumiel. Since that's not an option, perhaps the battleground can be modified so that if it requires 20 players, and only 10 players apply, then it becomes a 10 players battleground. If a battleground is an (Auto Group) 4v4v4v4 battleground or 6v6 King of the Hill, then maybe it can be modified so that it splits the teams evenly and makes that the battleground. In other words, if 10 players apply instead of 12 players for the King of the Hill, it ends up being a 5v5.

I think this would make battlegrounds and PvP much more enjoyable, as they are providing better rewards and fair pvp.

I know this may be difficult to implement, but it is just a suggestion .

 

I've had a talk with unbreakable and would like to add some of these pointers in. I don't necessarily agree with all his suggestions and would input some of my own.

Currently the BGs do need a bit of improvement, in particularly many are not well adapted to Lumiel to take full advantage. I'll have a in-depth chat with the other AMs on their ideas but for now here's my overview. I'll suggest that the number of opened BGs get narrowed down in 3 categories: Solo/1vs1 challenges, Group/Bigger scale PvP and PvPvE. At any given time, there should only be 3 portals or 3 types of BG opened. Narrowing down the options leads to fewer choices but also less likelihood something can be abused repeatedly and more likely you'll find players in the larger scale BGs.

They should consist of the following after being narrowed down whilst most other elements/structure remain the same and similarly for their appearance timers.
Solo: 1vs1 (free), 1vs1 (credit), Race, Survival (credits/5 players), Survival (credits/10 players) etc.
Group: FFA open map, 2vs2vs2vs2, 3vs3, 2vs2, Rescue captives, etc.
PvPvE: Battle of the gods, Mix_fight, Farm instances, RvR etc.

Battlegrounds that need of a structual change are:
The 20 players just isn't suited for Lumiel and will be in need for change.
1vs1 training is also a battleground that isn't suited overall unless the prizes are changed.
4vs4vs4 and 6vs6 should be auto group like I've previously mentioned. Eases the grouping process.

 

I agree with you unbreakble . Its not fun to play now that we are in 4.5 . it seems its easy to get ap and credits, not like those old days . We are hunting in inggision / silentra / gelkemaros / etc . Zerg vs. Zerg . No credits involve . just ap, and its very fun and i miss those days.

 

With those events we have a lot of noobs with high ranks, like generals+.

 

Ranks don't matter anyways, but yeah. I can get 4m+ ap a day w/ just premium lol.

 

Interesting Thread I hope that some of those fixes get applied, Even more with the Unnecessary Bgs at Lumiel.

 

Go Username

 

They matter, and a lot.Killing a high rank player gives you more ap, so when our "generals" go to pvp , they give free ap to the other side.

 

for my own problem what is that entrance [guardian]asmo/elyos when i enter no ppl??

 

Lol, hi password xD

I mean that ap is useless in the game. Yes, it can be used to buy gear, but that requires medals anyways.

However, people shouldn't be able to abuse the battlegrounds to rank their way up. Also, for every few kills, you get award a mithril medal and a blood mark


Many people don't even do the 1v1 battleground to actually have a 1v1. Most of the time, people just scroll out during the countdown because they didn't go against the person they wanted to abuse with.







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