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Questions on Cleric (Aion 4.5)

Discussion in 'Questions' started by Minamiya, Apr 10, 2014.

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  1. Minamiya

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    Hi there. ♥ I have some doubts regarding which manastones to use for my cleric. It is known to many that clerics need to emphasis on magic resist (without a doubt) to either prevent or minimize skills and god stones from landing. Lots and lots of questions pooping up my head and i do need some advice on this, hopefully someone out there is able to answer them one by one?

    Question are,
    1. What is the highest magic resist that a cleric can achieve?
    (I have heard rumors about clerics having 2900 magic resist and 3000 magic resist, is that even possible? *wonders*)
    2. Is it worth stacking up magic resist in Aion 4.5? Are you able to resist most of the skills (90%) even when you go full magic resist, like those days during Aion 2.7?
    3. If it's not worth stacking up magic resist, what will be the best manastone option to use instead?

    Sorry for the trouble! Thank you.


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  2. Sekishusai

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    PvP or PvE?
     
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    Mr build is good for support. Good to have a second set for block and 3rd for mb.

    How much you resist also depends on your enemy ma.
     
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    Sekishusai Getting there

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    Best for Pure MR is a Cloth Set. Now in game the Sauro Commander Cloth Set has highest MR i think + the accessories.
     
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    1. I have 2565 magic resist with food, and I have block on my mace and shield (so I'm missing 96*2 magic resist from those two being socketed differently) and I don't even have the best accessories for magic resist (using shepherd's when the best is probably sauro commander/hyperion). My current gear is full arbiter chain, shepherd accessories + sunayaka hairpin, arbiter mace/protective shield.

    2. It's worth stacking because you'll resist 90% of classes godstone procs, snares, slows, etc. You just gotta worry about gunners, sorc, full buffed sins and full macc sm the most.

    3. Block can be a viable option but most other clerics I see just go full mboost/ma if they aren't gonna be supporting as much or if they are going to be just soloing.
     
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  6. Minamiya

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    Ummm does it matter? Well i would say player vs player (pvp) then.

    Thanks for your advice! In general, how much magic accuracy does each classes have then?
    Having multiple sets is costly and it's quite hassle to switch them depending on situation, i would probably stick with one. And ummm what about question 1?
     
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    Probably 3000 or 3.1k with non pvp set with mr idians
     
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    Thanks for all those advice, really appreciate it. However, i still do have 1 last doubt left.
    According to the magic resist stats you provided earlier, you would have 2757 if you are using the best pvp items available (correct me if i am wrong). So is it even possible for us to reach 2900 / 3000 magic resist at all? *wonders*

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    Any idea how many magic resist does magic defense idians (the level 60 ones from black cloud trader) give?
    As for the non-pvp set it's not quite advisable rights? Reason being you will lose all those pvp defense.
     
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    Yup. I buy the Idian from golden guy. 3 stats instantly for 10k AP. I am not sure I think there is an Idian guide though
     
  10. Sekishusai

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    I`m Using Templar i use Cloth set for MR coz it has additional Mdeff, but im sure cloth is the best for MR since i play aion EU.
    The Hyperion Magic Accessories seems good.
     
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    There are more possibilities, like if you're going to be a support cleric, you don't really need PvP accessories, right? You can use PvE accessories (such as sauro commander, enraged hyperion, katalium and nolan) that give around +15 magic resist for the necklace, +10 for each earring, +7 for each ring, +7 for the belt when compared to Shepherd's accessories. A nice idian which can give you maybe 30 more.. +10 from ring of ancient magic if you have one. I'm not sure if 3k is possible but you can get your MR up there pretty high.

    Also, like Seki is saying, there are some armors that are better for magic resist like cloth stuff.
     
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    trent is a pro cleric he manages to keep my weak sorcerer up like WHO DOES THAT??
     
  13. vesiinabox

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    Yea ok ignore everyone above me <_<.

    1.) Highest mr for cleric to get is 2860 mr and thats with Arbiter set and the +50 mr idian from credit shop // Danaur Reliquary.
    2.) Its good to have a block switchout of about 3600 and higher. Easiest way to do this is to have a block mace and shield to switch out to and have an Antro helm to switch between (between mcc/antro)
    3.) Get MCC glasses they are the only headgear for cleric on siel.
    4.) 3 viable builds for cleric are bock , mr, and ma/mr. Now this is how i have my gear set up
    note: all arbiter (endgame gear)
    1 Chestpeice MR (stays on at all times)
    1 Pants MR (stays on at all times)
    3 gloves, Shoes, Shoulders Block, Ma/Mr , and MR switch between these as needed.
    3 maces, 3 shields same as above block set, mr set, ma/mr set
    MCC, Sunayaka, and Antro headgears (Mcc for the concentration, Antro for the block / pvp defence/ small amount of concentration, and then Sunayaka for the maximum MR.)
    4.) SSB Magical Access....yes get these if your serious about playing cleric dont bother even getting the shepard accessories.
    5.) You will want to stay in mr for the majority of fights and switch to block when there are a low amount of magical classes around...and for higher mr opponents switch out to your Ma/Mr set
    6.) Title should be aions chosen and stock up on candy that give 3% attack speed AND cast speed for the maximum cast/ and animation speed. Switch out to the +15 mr title only if you need to.
    7.) any more questions?
     
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    You need both mr and block in order to be fully prepared against everyone. I can tell you that full MR is a great all around build, and i was also personally using it in 4.0.. but i also had a full block shield and mace on the switch as well as a block headgear and 3 pieces of arbiter set fully socketed with block in my inventory for quick switch against templars and glads because i realized that a good temp or glad could take my life down in about 3 seconds if i was constantly on full MR, but trust me on the block gear i never got killed by any melee class, 4k block was pretty damn OP.

    So get 1 set for full MR, 2 or 3 extra set pieces for block, 2 pairs of shield and mace, 2 headgears (1 for mr and 1 for block) and socket both of your maces with blind and silence godstone as well as mr and block idians on each mace respectively. This build will make you invulnerable, you aint gonna die unless a really lucky gunner/sin procs several godstones in a row or you get spirit hypnosis'ed by some sm.


    Good luck.
     
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    If I was as geared as these two dudes I'd probably be doing what they say too ^
     
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    Oh my, it takes me quite awhile to process all this in my tiny little brain, it feels like it's gonna explode!
    So as a cleric i must keep on switching gears from now and then? *faints* Really no idea how am i gonna do that during pvp but i guess i can try. In short, it's gonna be 3 sets of arbiter chain for a cleric? That's so expensive! *Wallet shivers and starts running away from me*

    But well thanks! Those advice are pretty detailed and they are definitely gonna help not only me but many others out there.

    Thank god! So i can conclude 2 sets will be enough for support cleric, well perhaps a 3rd (non-pvp) set for instance. Thank you so much for the tips.

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    Ikr! That's their "ideal" cleric to group with, and the ping plays a part too. *sad face*







    Anyways, thank you all again for all the advice given, really appreciated them. ♥
     
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    vesiinabox Death be chillin bitches. Forum Legend

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    no you dont need 3 full sets for support if you noticed what i wrote you only need peices
    1 Chestpeice MR (stays on at all times)
    1 Pants MR (stays on at all times)
    Now If your support just take away the MA/MR part and just keep it like this
    2 shoulders 1 block , one MR 2 Shoes 1 block , one MR 2 Hands 1 block , one MR.
    and then for weapons
    1 mace MR, 1 mace block , 1 shield MR, 1 shield Block
    Keep both of them equiped and then keybind your switch weapon for easy switching between the two
    and then keybind 2 keys to switch between MCC Glasses and Antro's Chain Hood.

    This will give you in mr roughly 2835 MR
    and while in block 4100 Block enough to block anything
     
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    I knew there's a short cut for switching weapons, but is there a switch for equipment too? Is that what you called it, key bind? In that case, what if my keys are full? *wonders*
     
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    You can have macros for changing equipment but they don't really work that well with two pieces of gear with the same name e.g. two Arbiter Chausses, unless they changed them since I played before.
     
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    no your armor you would have to switch manually because its going to be the same name. yes their is a key for weapon switch dont remember what it is by default but just change it to whatever is comfortable to you.
     
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