Discussion about dev issues

It's "sarcasm."

 

It's "I could care less".
now if i do recall, your previous post has nothing to do with the thread, does it?

 

Now its getting a bit flame-driven. Let me remind you, this thread is meant for discussion not for people to snap at each other. I won't close this thread, but I also won't refrain from deleting any posts that seem out of hand.

 

Im ignoring yanis now.

Autumn please dont fall in the catagory of GM's who think closing a thead solves things. there is no flaming here. despite what you might think. if we were flaming you would be reading things like "carl sucks monkey balls" and "the server is shit **** this crap"

**edit** typical someone starts flaming when i was typing that :andy:

TBH i think carl does read the forum, i know he can appear offline when he logs in. i know because i used to host my own counter strike server, and forum. i also used to run a very good wow server and forum.

So i doubt he doesnt come and visit and read what goes on here.

I think the problem now is that he thinks if he comments all he will get is shot down. and to be honest i think that will probably happen from the many unhappy people here.

We know its a free server, but can you put a price on time spent? time doesnt get given back, you use it how you want to, most of us are still here for friends that is true, but we are also here because we want to play the game with our friends. if we were just here for the community we would all be on the forum and not in the game.

When i first joined gamez aion it had staff who cared, devs who cared. now its a shadow of its former self, posts like this show people care about the server, and want it to carry like it used to.

Drama behind the scene became a community issue the moment it was posted on the forums. and that is wrong. GM problems and staffing issues should be kept in the admin section away from the game and community.

Games issues are a community problem, people get passionate about the game they are playing and the server they selected to be the home for their character

People want to know its worth while taking the time to play on the server they select. all anyone wants is a game, on a server that doesnt crash as much, more updates and a good community. we have the good community and we had the good server. but since we changed over to the new host its been crash after crash after crash.

Now you can say that we ain't here for the updates all you like, but truth be told we want them as much as we want to play a good game with our friends.

 

and for that i am sorry,
BACK2TOPIC.

 

eventually, people will realize that all that good stuff, 2.0 maps, 2.0 pets, 2.0 skills, custom instances, etc. will not be coming any time soon while other servers have them. that will cause people to leave which is contrary to what you want. so why is it bad to ask for him to change his strategy around so that it doesn't reach that point?

 

I don't view this thread as constructive criticism. It's just criticism that being played from ryang's posts like a broken record. When your friends are arguing over something that doesn't matter, do you let them just get pissed at eachother or do you get them to put their energy towards something more constructive?

And mind you I don't like to lock threads any more than you do. But I'm well aware of what a negative aura does to a community. If you see only the negative, you will talk about only the negative. I don't like to talk about the negative, personally. I like to have fun and laugh. I like to read amusing threads. And so does the community. It is my opinion that shutting down sources of needless negativity does more for the community than letting them rage without direction.

 

The negativity gets a bit overwhelming on some days, but I don't think this thread is really that bad. Its discussion, discussion doesn't need to be closed or it turns into the really bad negativity that you obviously don't want. Nor do I.

 

Same here :sideways:

You have to realize that back then, we didn't have these threads criticizing Carl. That's the one big difference. We have GMs that care about this server and I don't know why you think otherwise -cough- but updates and fixes come slowly and you give him time. You seriously think he doesn't know all of this? The crashes?

The community is what you make of it.

 

I like how you singled me out, I'm not close to the only one who posts and feels this way. And yes, all the other people who posted criticism where not my alts.

 

Censorship does not move the community in a good direction.

I understand closing flame threads, or threads that go way offtopic. that i understand

The closing of threads just because you dont like to talk about the negative is censorship, just because you do not, doesnt mean others shouldn't.

 

see, and this is why I requested you to read stuff. There is no dev work being done contrary to your belief. SO we won't be getting substantial updates or fixes any time soon. The reason there were no threads criticizing him back then was because he had 2 hard working devs, a great staff, and no issues. Thats all out the door now. And he's known about the crashes for over a month now, you think he'd have solved it by now. From what I hear, he doesn't even care because people keep donating. and thats integral to the issues at hand here.

 

Censurship is bad but we all have to agree to end when flaming comes. Flame is not needed it only brings bad things arround.

 

Guys,

What has been done is in the past.

The only thing that really matters is the question : What could we do to help this server stay alive? I know most will say it's up to Carl but his only one and he needs help to achieve all the development, so if you are able to help with it, please do so =)

 

and thats what we were discussing in the original thread.

 

If it's all about community then why everyone feels like the owner don't give a shit bout this decent community ?

 

the flaming was already quashed :whistling:

 

This thread should have been closed for a while now. Obviously the "raise awareness" thing is total crap. Ryang, you don't care about this server, your just trying to make the server look bad so people would join you in your wait for the "other" server, which god knows, is never gonna happen.

 

The only thing that can save this server from its slow spiral down is a compleate refomation of everything. Temp remove all staff re-evaulate effectiveness then reinstate the longtime ones and the effecive ones.. give the forum an over hall.. hire devs that will work with the server that you are also able to work with and trust.. or do it your self...

 

And he's tried to fix the "memory leak." I know there aren't any devs now but progress takes time and you need the patience to wait it out. Here and now there are great GMs that are on the server, and devs can come later. You have to be more positive. Pessimism is not the way to go, especially if you want a good community. So many of your posts criticize Carl or the server; though you shouldn't be restricted to what you type/say, you should be mindful of others and not create this antagonism in the community, which is what I am specifically against.