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BG FFA Teaming: Is it punishable?

Discussion in 'Questions' started by Jessica, Nov 7, 2015.

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  1. Jessica

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    They must have used the chat to talk since they are all Asmodians.
    Is this punishable? I think it should cause this definitely defeats the purpose of the bg that is a "2v2v2v2 FFA Bg".

    I mean these battlegrounds are there for players to join and not think of getting outnumbered like the way PvP works in OpenWorld

    Names were:
    Team1: Aeyzz Ddensy
    Team2: Itrainingdummyl Iverifyl

    In these screenshots you can see that they stood not killing each other for 1 minute

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  2. Grifter

    Grifter Just Hit Me I'll Dodge You

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    actually this is acceptable coz being in a battle ground, you can do anything, everything or what ever you wanted to do.. so if they are asmodians? who the hell you care? lets make things easy to understand, THATS THEIR PLAN, JUST TO KILL ELYOS. ;D...... and last thing is, you guys are not in a GM's Event.. ^_^ gets?
     
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    Obviously a sin and a ranger would attack the sw :) and no1 cares if they're teaming or no, it's a bg, not a GM event, they only want to win, since they can team and focus on sw/sm/sorc or so.. The weakest classes or most 'annoying' ones fall first.
     
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  4. Jessica

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    I think we have to be more specific cuz then if I can do everything then I can use hacks and abuse bugs.
    That would be a Race vs Race event not a TvT event.
    Does that mean if GMs are not around, the rules don't have to be followed?
    No
    Uh, you can see in the screenshots that they were standing next to each other right? Without doing any attack skills and I did more than one screenshot so it should be pretty obvious. I don't care if they team up on me and kill me as long as they are hitting each other too. Wow I feel like my IQ went down writing this trying to explain something so obvious.

    You don't have to send an indirect message just write what's in your mind, you're thinking no one cares if 'I' get teamed up on. Weakest class? Is that why everyone is complaining about songweavers?

    Back to the question, this should be punishable because it breaks the game and it is in the rules. Can multiple screenshots prove this kind of rule breaking?

    VI. Battleground Specific (Free For All)
    (Requires substantial proof in video form. Please review this : Link)

    • Players who are caught teaming up in these events will receive the following punishments.
      • First offense: 12 hours of Temp Ban.
      • Second Offense: 48 hours of Temp Ban.
      • Third Offense: 7 Day Ban
      • Fourth Offense: Permanent Ban
     
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    Nero Pioneer Member Forum Legend

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    There are rules must be followed though. "Rules" incase you didn't know.
     
  6. Muamon

    Muamon - Myśtîçãł

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    Many people get teamed on, but they either rage it off to themselves or do nothing at all (like me, cuz it doesn't affect me at all) or post it on forum. If you see a rule there, then just go and record it, Idk why you took screens and just added asking if it's punishable ._.

    Also by FFA, I think they mean the deserted rift that no1 enters anymore (where you're alone :) )
     
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    VI. Battleground Specific (Free For All)


    I thought FFA means the FFA portal (solo, no groups). Judging on your screenshots you're in a 2v2v2 event or something. The rules don't seem to specify other BG events apart from the FFA. And yeah its annoying getting gang on but it happens alot, especially with sw's.
     
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  8. Jessica

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    which is just another sentence to say: "I don't care if a Rule is broken"
    I don't know if u'v noticed at all by being in Gamez since 2012 that not everyone that plays in this server is capable of taking a video. "I'm not sure :)"
    when Dimi hosts events, she says its a 2v2v2v2 FFA and on her events, teaming is forbidden.
    Rules are made and can be amended to adjust to situations that rise up like this. Probably cuz no1 cared to report this before or what these four Asmodians did is the first time someone noticed that cares to post it here on forum since most only care about trading here.
     
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  9. Muamon

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    Well, it's not my fault you can't record a video lol... Anyway, just ask a GM, people say what they think here lol..

    Either way, FFA bg in my eyes is the one where you're solo. Not 2v2v2, not 3v3v3.
     
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    Dimi's event, Dimi's rules. Just because she makes something against the rules in her event it does not mean it's an official gamez rule. Lots of AM's have there own personal rules in place on their events. I have known some AM's in the past who don't care if people team or break certain rules in their events, while other AM's are against it when they host their events.

    Yeah, I'm not too sure if its against the rules to team in auto events etc. I'm just stating that it says "FFA" specifically.
     
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  11. lisveth

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    Nope.

    As for the 2v2 / 3v3 bg? There's no rules about teaming up. We have a specific rule for FFA and you already know this one.
     
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    The passage you quoted from the server rules talks about FFA. FFA is what it says, Free For All, and there is only one battleground that uses that name. That battleground is no longer popular but I'm quite certain you remember how many people teamed up in it back then, making it impossible for someone who actually wanted to play by themselves, to enjoy it inside. The same rule does not apply to GvG so as of now, nobody will get banned for focusing a target in a GvG, as much as you will not get banned for using Chain of Suffering in a 1v1, which to me is FAR more annoying. They are both frowned upon, but not punishable.

    There are quite a few things you can do that you will not be banned for. For example using chain of suffering in battlegrounds, climbing mountains with your mount, or using Shield of Vengeance and Scoundrel's Bond (notice how you are not allowed to use the last two in some GM events). Just because something is buggy or not really widely accepted does not mean people who do it should be banned for it. Have you ever thought why we ban people for abusing Empowerment or Panoply but we don't ban them for using Scoundrel's Bond or Shield of Vengeance? Like you said, the server rules are adapted to fit the situation, and it does not mean that if something is not considered "normal", we should ban people for it.

    I heard another thing being said that "this is not punishable because nobody cared to report it". You have been here long enough to know that if we are aware of something and it is not punishable, it's not because "nobody reported it", but because there is no reason for it to be punishable, or the reason is not serious enough for us to take action. I'm sure we already know that we do not players' approval to create or enforce rules so that sentence was unnecessary.

    Also, as already mentioned. It is nowhere written that "the rules that apply in GM events apply in every single automatic event ingame". If that was true then you wouldn't be allowed to use DP in 2v2 GvG, or ressurect after dying, correct? Automatic events and GM events are two completely different things. Instead of 2v2v2v2 FFA I could call my event "Mashed Potato", doesn't mean we should call all automatic events of the same type the same name.
     
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    It is known that sw and sm must die first, so don't be too surprised if everyone attacks you. I play templar and nobody attacks me ever, until everyone else is dead. I would call that a tactic, because SM is the most dangerous and strongest class in gamez, so it has to go. SW is just broken and ridiculous right now, everyone who isn't a sw just hates that class and wants it gone. The people who supposedly teamed up are all scouts and a ranger or something and dummy which is harmless cuz cleric, so it's obvious that they'd focus against classes that they have an advantage on, which means clothes.

    Also there is nothing you can do about it anyway.
     
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