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What's the point?

Discussion in 'GamezAION General Discussion' started by PoWeLL, Oct 8, 2016.

  1. PoWeLL

    PoWeLL Getting there

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    When people complain there is no pve content because is a pvp server, i wonder then, whats the point on starting in level 65 and exp to 75, which costs forever if you didnt see the boost function before expend the time online.. New maps are totally bugged, so you cant exp there.. just farm for stones. Lot of camp quest of 4.8 are bugged too, so you have to start doing low quests.. and it takes forever to get exp after 70..

    I dont have all the time to play, and when i do, i would like to have fun, not expend this time on exping, when is supose to be a pvp server. Lot of times I logged and did a few quests.. and then logged off because i got bored. ANd since I will do shit in pvp portals until i get 75.. because my debuffs will get ressisted all the time, this kinda suck.

    You should make people start in 75.. or give some extra exp in the gm small boxes, because 4kkk exp is like 1 or 2 quests in gelkmaros.

    Another thing I dont understand. Why do you give lv 20-30 manastones in gm boxes? Im glad you give something, some help. But please.. giving shit is not helping.. I rather get nothing instead.. And when is lv 70, is totally random, like parry, evasion, mp..

    Give something useful. At least give 100 manastones of each of the most used at start to manastone your starter set, to get started. I dont mean you should give the blue ones.. just green.
     
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  2. Swag

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    well said
     
  3. Grewpain

    Grewpain Proficient

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    You're the 1023185124123912th person who raised a thing about leveling. Guess what? They're increasing Level Boosts OTE value for each complaint.
     
  4. Noyah

    Noyah ᴜɴғᴏʀɢᴇᴛᴛᴀʙʟᴇ Forum Legend

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    true but you dont have to continue after lvl 70. just use thé lvl boost function
     
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    Tenebrae New Member

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    In my opinion it is nothing to lvl up to 70. By the time you reach 70, you will have half of the time in OTE already. From lvl 70 go to IS and gain some AP and at the same time you are collecting hours in OTE, so when you will be lvl 75, you will have like 5 million AP already and it will be much more easy to upgrade your custodian set. How to lvl up fast to 70? Do campaign quests in cygnea. Do them all. From 68 to 70, eat those stars you get from the gm box and do local cygnea quests. don't waste your time lvling up from 70 to 75, just use the boost ;) I completed 0 quests in gelkarmos and I am 75 ;)
     
  6. PoWeLL

    PoWeLL Getting there

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    The boost function requires 60hs of online time exchange. What if you didnt know about it and you expended that, or you want to play fast, and you have to be 60hs online waiting for that..? Is too much in my opinion.

    I went IS once, and tried to make ally for it another 3 times when i saw the portal open. Nobody wants to go anymore, at least when i try...
     
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    Guyzz.. is this true? that the starter items custodian set can be upgrade into something?.. i dont think so.. maybe you talk about the custo set that is being sold by AP and Cm at Kasiniel's Academy not the starter set ones.. Thanks! ^_^
     
  8. PoWeLL

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    The starter cannot be upgraded like you said. I guess he meant to change the set buying other, not upgradind that one. And questing camps in cygnea.. well, Enshar has 2 camps bugged, where you should get an update and a cinematic in the quest, but when you get to the place, nothing happens, so there is some exp lost...Maybe elyos have more luck.
    The boost function, as i alredy said.. 60hs online waiting is too much.. i dont really understand why is that set that way. Isnt level 70+ voting last day enough?..
     
  9. ~VilletteSonia~

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    It took me 2 and half weeks to reach lvl 70 because of my work.
     
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  10. Vige

    Vige New Member

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    yeah bro.. dont worry.. maybe the team is working for that one.. PATIENCE is a VIRTUE bro.. ahahaha..
    for the lvling up? Move-on bro..ahaha... 60 hrs is too long enough, we have nothing to do with it but follow it.. God Bless mate
     
  11. Illusions

    Illusions ß̫͒̃ڻᶇٴᶇٴŷ̪ Ķ̫͌ńĭģĥŧ̝̜᷈ Forum Legend

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    There's a saying, give someone your hand and they take your whole arm. It's ridiculous.

    If you see bugs, know of bugs, something is wrong, not working etc, report it in a bug report clearly laying out the details. Often bugs get delayed simply because there isn't enough information to work with. "Map bug" is not something anybody could work with. Indeed you have to spend a bit of time leveling, while you're pvping as you've mentioned. What's wrong with that? If you don't like it, eventually you're going to reach level 75. Sure some things don't work however we've considered every idea of increasing things, re-adding features that we've removed simply because you guys asked for them.

    Instead of creating a thread that's bashing stuff around, I'd suggest write a clear set of suggestions and bug reports in order to help out with this. Sounds like you have plenty things to suggest.

    P.S.
    Because...logic.
     
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  12. Ambien

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    And paitence also wears thin for quite a few people, which is costing the server more and more of its player-base. During the off hours its not entirely common to run into people anymore, and the server starts to dip into 2x lumiels population during lumiels peak time. (15 people on average on both sides (30-40 total approx) last I checked during off hours on the week, more on the weekends, but there's an issue with the population dropping that low)

    I used to pass time through crafting GHP's, Aether Jellys, and the Odd potion here and there during the off hours and selling those to kill time, but it's gotten to the point where I don't bother logging in much anymore because of how questionably low the player-base has gotten as of late. The GM team is doing what they can to keep the player-base coming back, but its currently no better than prodding a dying cow hoping it'll suddenly get cured.

    The only way they can really recover from the late fall is if they can bring people back with a decent update at this point in time, then working on keeping their player-base going again. The few new people I brought in-game with me a few weeks ago have already moved on because of how low the pop gets during the hours we are online.

    Patience may be a virtue, but sometimes you have to look at things how they are without the rose tinted glasses and notice whats going on.
    Indeed it is. However the bugs that have been reported, very little to nothing has been done about them because something else isn't working right which is fine and all in its own right, unless its something that affects what the server advertises itself for. (PvP)

    Why is it that upgrading things (core requirement on a pvp server) doesn't do anything for people unless you +20 them. You may aswell just bite the bullet there.
    Now, I havent paid much attention to updates as of recent, and this may have been fixed lately, but it (if it has been) took quite some time to actually be fixed.
    I don't mind the leveling, its part of the game. But something like the above really messed with quite a few classes because of Magic supression, or the block from upgrading shields being required for some builds for cleric.
    I do commend you guys for the updates on something that is falling into dangerous territory during off peak hours, but you should look into what is keeping people from logging in nowadays, and take that into consideration. (Without it being a thread.) Just take the games issues as they are one step at a time, but the gm team need to focus more on keeping the playerbase around (Which is going to be hard to be quite frank.) without focusing on adjusting things that really don't matter all that much (exp for example.) Hell, if the exp is a problem, just change how often gm gift boxes are given out if nothing else to help that problem.
     
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  13. PoWeLL

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    Well, im first talking about the small gm boxes that are given while you are ingame by time. Then im talking about the starting pack, are two things totally different So, there is the logic, maybe you are not able to see that, try re-reading.

    The title of my post is actually a question, what is the point of what i described.

    "give someone your hand and they take your whole arm. It's ridiculous." You think giving manastones lv 20 that you will 100% delete is giving your hand? It seems to me that is like giving the hand and take it away before someone can get it, as a joke.

    Dont get cocky saying Staff are doing too many to help players because they are just that nice ok? Staff need players to get donations to keep server runing and get some benefit, that is a fact in all private servers, and is perfect, but please, dont pretend you are doing a favor trying to keep players in server. I Met some GMs or helpers or whatever ingame, and they seem to be nice ppl, and I dont know you, but that replay you made.. Not cool.
     
  14. Noyah

    Noyah ᴜɴғᴏʀɢᴇᴛᴛᴀʙʟᴇ Forum Legend

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    umm the gms are all volunteers they dont get anything if you donate.. only green admins gets $$.
     
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  15. Illusions

    Illusions ß̫͒̃ڻᶇٴᶇٴŷ̪ Ķ̫͌ńĭģĥŧ̝̜᷈ Forum Legend

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    So to somewhat address both of you at the same time in a nice manner;

    GamezAion staff members are volunteers, meaning we do not get paid and we do not expect payment in return for our work. This means that all the AM, Mods, and so on you see lurking around on the forums and in-game are people who put their heart and soul into something they enjoy working on and seeing the server cherish. Our 'profit' is seeing people happy and helping out with problems you experience. You guys run to us when there is a problem which of course, should be normal; however you must understand that there is a limit of what we can do as well. We are a key point between the players and the devs; that's it. We do not fix stuff, we do not touch any of the in-game things (server sided), we simply help out. Now that things get fixed in different ways than you guys might like them to get fixed in, at least something is being done. It is impossible to please everybody at the same time, I'm guessing you already knew that. What I simply ask of you is instead of creating a bashing thread, why not create a suggestion thread clearly laying out a few key points, why you've mentioned them and how you think it would help the majority.

    Also, I do not mean to disrespect anybody's opinion as for sure, we're all individual people who are entitled to voice their opinion however toning it down and realizing what you've said would be a good idea.
     
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  16. Kessie

    Kessie alis volat propriis Forum Legend

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    Since no one seems to have given a proper answer to the original question.
    A point is a mathematical term, usually referring to a certain position on a plane surface in geometry. It has no size, shape, width or length at all, but we usually mark it with a dot. To explain in other words what a point is, the easiest to tell you to imagine a mathematical object which in fact isn't a real thing, just something we humans made up for ourselves. I hope it cleared up the confusion a bit.
     
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    Read again your previous post, and then read that.

    I didnt create the thread to bash the Staff, you are right saying I should create topics in the suggesting part of the forum, i give you that. My post was complaining the contradiction of "this is pvp server so we dont take too much time in pve content", when actually you need pve content to get started to have some pvp. And complaining about the small gm boxes because i seriously get a bit mad when i get them, is like when you see a homeless person and you give an empty bottle instead some food or water or money. Maybe you dont get why did I created the post, idk.

    But for sure, your post was trying to make be seen as stupid, is that helping at all Mr forum Admin?
     
  18. cocosul

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    i think he meant g point at all! can u explain it to me?
     
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    Yes because in English words have only one meaning. Specially if you take it literally separated from context.

    Good job.
     
  20. WalidRazak

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    Took me 2hours to reach 75, what are you even talking about? its really easy to lvl
     
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