Gathering Sharps/Hards severely reduced after XP transfer

Good Afternoon,

A bit about me. I am Guru 20 in gathering, have been gathering since joining the server 2 months ago, & I always use event scroll, buffs, etc. Since transferring my gathering experience from my old main to my new main, I am lucky if I get a minimum 5-15 Sharps/20-40 Hards in 1 hour with all the aforementioned buffs. I been asking around in Pilgrims Haven where I normally gather and people in tell me they are getting 25-40 Sharps/40-60 Hards in an hour with same buffs. I know the gathering rates are X 5 based off the retail, but at this point, I don't see those results. It's almost like retail for me. Is this something the Dev's can look into. I know it sounds ridiculous, but I used to get 20-40 Sharps/40-60 Hards an hours before I transferred my gathering XP & eventually became Guru 20. I am seriously considering rolling my XP to another character to see if it fixes the situation. Please help. Thanks in advance! Below is some recent data I have been collecting.

Update: I ended up transferring my Guru 20 gathering XP to a level 49 alt. It made absolutely no difference in results; not that I expected it would. I added data for the last two (2) days and went into detail by 10 minute intervals; including double proc rates. At this point, my conclusion is one of four scenarios: 1) Gamez BD devs changed the gathering rates of hards/sharps to offset the amount of hards/shaps gained in RBF, i.e., stealth-nerf!; 2) Gamez BD devs changed the gathering rates of hards/sharps because of the state of the economy, i.e., stealth-nerf!; 3) Once you transfer gathering XP to another character, it jacks the code up, i.e., tinfoil hat theory about coding; 4) The loot scrolls do not work as intended, meaning the double proc rate is significantly reduced.

Note, I know most people will say my pool is too low and I need thousands of sessions to get a better scope of what I am experiencing. I agree with that statement, but only partially. When I started on this sever almost 3 months ago, I was overjoyed by how much easier it was to collect hards/sharps. Now that has all changed and it feels like retail again. I don't want that to happen here or to anyone else. The server has huge potential and will prosper as long as things stay consistent. Little feedback or genuine concern from the CM's & Dev's about players observations will sink this quicker than the Titanic.

· 4/24/2018- Pilgrims Haven (1 hour loot scroll + Worker Elixir)- 19 Sharps, 26 Hards

· 4/25/2018 Goat Mountain (1.5 hours loot scroll + Worker Elixir)- 16 Sharps, 55 Hards

· 5/28/2018- Pilgrims Haven (1 hour loot scroll + event Draught)- 19 Sharps, 39 Hards

· 5/29/2018- Pilgrims Haven (1 hour loot scroll + event Draught)- 12 Sharps, 42 Hards

· 5/30/2018- Pilgrims Haven (1 hour loot scroll + event Draught)- 22 Sharps, 40 Hards

· 5/30/2018- Pilgrims Haven (1 hour loot scroll + event Draught)- 14 Sharps, 39 Hards

· 6/2/2018- Pilgrims Haven (1 hour loot scroll + event Draught)- 18 Sharps, 32 Hards

· 6/2/2018- Pilgrims Haven (1 hour loot scroll + event Draught)- 10 Sharps, 63 Hards

· 6/13/2018- Pilgrims Haven (1 hour loot scroll + event Draught)- 9 Sharps, 41 Hards

· 6/15/2018- Pilgrims Haven (1 hour loot scroll + worker elixir)- 12 Sharps, 39 Hards

· 6/16/2018- Pilgrims Haven (1 hour loot scroll + worker elixir)- 14 Sharps, 45 Hards

· 6/16/2018- Polly’s Forest (1 hour loot scroll + worker elixir)- 7 Sharps, 17 Hards

· 6/17/2018- Florin Forest (1 hour loot scroll + event Draught)- 2 Sharps, 22 Hards

· 6/18/2018- Pilgrims Haven (1 hour loot scroll + event Draught + Life Spirit Stone)- 14 Sharps, 47 Hards

· 6/19/2018- Pilgrims Haven (1 hour loot scroll + event Draught + Life Spirit Stone)- 13 Sharps, 21 Hards

· 6/21/2018- Pilgrims Haven (1 hour loot scroll + event Draught + Life Spirit Stone)- 11 Sharps, 26 Hards

Note, out of 16 gathering sessions of 1 hour + loot scroll, I only gathered 20+ Sharps once; 40+ Hards seven (7) times.

· 6/21/2018- Pilgrims Haven (1 hour loot scroll + event Draught)- 11 Sharps, 26 Hards

• 1 hour breakdown- Pilgrims Haven
  
  Minutes
  00-10: 3 sharps 1 hard
  11-20: 0 sharps 2 hards
  21-30: 2 sharps 7 hards
  31-40: 2 sharps 5 hards
  41-50: 2 sharps 4 hards
  51-60: 2 sharps 7 hards
  
  (Double Proc Sharps-2)
  (Double Proc Hards-8)

· 6/22/2018- Goat Mountain (1 hour loot scroll + event Draught + Life Spirit Stone)- 14 Sharps, 28 Hards

• 1 hour breakdown- Goat Mountian
  
  Minutes
  00-10: 0 sharps 0 hards
  11-20: 3 sharps 6 hards
  21-30: 0 sharps 4 hards
  31-40: 1 sharps 6 hards
  41-50: 5 sharps 6 hards
  51-60: 5 sharps 6 hards
  
  (Double Proc Sharps-3)
  (Double Proc Hards-4)

 

In response to this http://forum.gameznetwork.com/threads/hards-sharps-football-event-droprate.220699/ now locked thread. I never received any response from anyone Gamez BD management. I know it has changed, everyone is saying it has changed, but they refuse to acknowledge there is an issue. @Kolka you are most likely correct; you know the gathering percentages, you know the coding. The question remains for so many players out there, why do the drop rates continue to decrease? This is player experience that is hard to refute. I gave up logging my gathering data because it is pointless. Why track a known issue if the response will always be "rates are the same and have never changed"; locked thread.

 

Dont worry they will LOCK u thread too mate!
Im playing a month on this server and even before this shit event the rates was good enough.
Now the rates for hards and sharps got a huge decrease and they dont even announce anything.
And just telling us that the rates are the same.
well we the players are dump prob!

 

Man u can use search on forum, from start server year ago every time when events end somebody come to forum and start thread about rates nerfed. It was more than 10 times, if all them right it mean wour gather x5 now must be x 0.5 but as u see it still x5 rom retail. So all time it was fake report cuz player just feel more on event and feel less on event end. If u not believe me u can easy test it, just make 3 hour gather on retail and 3 hour gather on gamezand compare, and u will see its x5, same like in server description from server start was. I answer cuz u start disinfromate players about nerfed and they feel event end and start believe in nerf, we always inform on any changes, and such important like rates we will never touch before known all players opinion. We not touch rates never, only on events and this will not be changed.

 

@Kolka....I wasn't disagreeing with you in regards to your x5 rates. I was specifically pointing out my and others experiences that something seems off. All we are asking is that you look past the x5 drop rate and explore other possibilities that something in the game code messed with the loot table for gathering hards and sharps; I think it changed with the introduction of Laila's Petals (blue proc). I don't speak for anyone else, but I joined the server because a friend of mine said this server is what retail should have been. For the first few months, I was in complete agreement and now I still stand behind that. You have a great server, but it can only exist if you have a satisfied player base. Ignore that, and it will fall by the wayside, and so will donations that support the sever.
Very Respectfully
JTangoKilo

 

I am agree with you, thats why i informed u about why it fells nerfed, i also recommended admin to be carefull with events which give any rate to prevent player base be sad after it end, cuz we got 2 week happy and month of sad due such events. Sure i am also agree with word about this server how retail must be, and we not give answer like "Hello we will show it to devs and in few month u got answer", no when u ask something we go and check to be sure and give answer as fast as we can. Some players misunderstood how it work so we give explanations, every update we move to new versions with that version changes and apply own multiplier on drop and gather base but not touch it manually never to prevent situation when somebody agree witch changes and sombody not it also good for us cuz we make updates too often and every time manually changes can be missed or create missversion problem, so we just put rates its always same. Prev thread was closed also for exclude when player just not saw answer cuz somebody another make thread with same question and its also only about care player base. We love u

 

Thanks for the reply @Kolka. So with what you just mentioned above, is there a possibility that with a previous update from retail, drop rate percentages for hards and sharps were further reduced and this sever inadvertently applied the reduction as well? I could see where this servers x5 rate multiplied by whatever the rate is on retail gives us what we were used to. Then in comes a retail patch where they "stealth nerf" hards and shards drop rates. Gamez BD applies said patch and now we have a new x5 multiplier; reduced gathering amounts of hards & sharps. Is that a possibility? Of course, anything is a possibility. With that said, the real player base (not whiny "i want everything now" people) has addressed an issue that we ask your team looks into. It's disheartening to walk away from an hour of gathering with less than expected results. I previously stated, I am gathering guru 20. I wouldn't have continued gathering for almost 2 months straight if I was getting 0-10 sharps/10-20 hards per hour. This is what we experience now more often than the advertised 20 Sharps/40 Hards per hour with loot scroll. That should be the minimum, not the threshold. I do appreciate you taking the time to respond.

 

Im not writing for my own. I asked many times in the server chat "do u guys feel the nerv" many of them answering yes many of them ive got still 60 in an hour what for me is impossible.
And started this poll to see what the ppl thinking. And no one put a no!
Go ahead @Kolka come in game and make this question with a random char!
Im not talking about the event to be true i didnt realize nothing from this event.
For me it was still the same drop rate like days ago but now u can feel it dramaticly chaning!