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confuse about death abuse

Discussion in 'GamezAION General Discussion' started by Iceberg, Aug 9, 2018.

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  1. Iceberg

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    if ppl pvp in 2v2. and one person go to bathroom or got phone call. then we just took 30 seconds to respawn. is it that death abuse.. if it yes, so ranger and sin took 30 second for hiding, should they got banned? if the sor in 1v1 and he keep sleep enemy for 30 seconds, is it abuse?

    Impeding Game-play / Fair-play (GamezAION / BDO)
    • Actions which include but are not limited to the following, Death Abuse, Certain Skill Abuse, Hide Abuse, Mount Abuse, etc.
    • Bans for these require certain proof, with out 100% Perfect Proof, the reports will be denied with out any question.
    • Any action which can be viewed as to gain unfair advantages over other players (with-in normal means not related to hacking, cheats, etc.). Subject to case by case review by H.GM and Admins upon such as deemed nessesary.
      • Warning: 1 hour Temp Ban (given on skill abuse)
      • First offense: 12 hours of Temp Ban.
      • Second Offense: 48 hours of Temp Ban.
      • Third Offense: 7 Day Ban
      • Fourth Offense: Permanent Ban

    the rule just say death abuse.. so if u take 30 seconds to repawn, is it abuse???

    if we just respawn immediataly every time. u guys think what will happen? u have to 1v2 for 10 seconds, because the system take around 10 second to respawn. then if u die, then ur group member will be 1v2? how is it fair?? 2v2 event will become 1v2 event.
     
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    yeah agree with this , there should be a little explanation about death abuse.
    bcz waiting our teammate to respawn together it cannot be called death abuse.
    who would be stupid enough to respawn alone knowing his teammate just die and need some time to respawn ?

    ikr its just stupid crybaby who call it abuse.
    even if he got low ping , what a shame.
     
  3. Kirnick

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    • Any action which can be viewed as to gain unfair advantages over other players (with-in normal means not related to hacking, cheats, etc.). Subject to case by case review by H.GM and Admins upon such as deemed necessary.
    Besides the rule, don't you think would be better to have a direct talk with a staff member starting a conversation with or appealing to your ban panel? If you've already started a conversation, for what reason did you create this thread?
    Plus, honestly i just smell like you guys didn't want give the chance to make the enemy get some more scores/kills...pretty weird you both respawned the last 10 seconds with the purpose to kill 1 player although you both knew you would have won. Not even mentioning some of you 2 went afk when the event was almost done.
    Don't be silly, as fas as i know sin has hide limitation to 1min in these portal-events, therefore if you kill your enemy at the start and then you hide for the whole time then it's hide abuse...but, if you hide for around 1min and then get back into fight and so on, that's not an abuse since you gave the chance to make the enemy kill you (no matter if you win or lose)...in case you win, you're free to go in hide again but don't forget the enemy has the right to have a chance to gain scores. That's why rule says "case by case review".
    Some sorc's sleep has pretty long CD, this means you can just keep your enemy 30s-asleep for one time then you're forced to fight, so there shouldn't be any real abuse there.
     
  4. cocosul

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    there's no death abuse, someone just invented this cuz bored.if you ask me it's 100%fair play to wait for your pt member or skill cd or anything that you want, as about Kirkic theory, silly theory, for kiddos.
     
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  5. Kirnick

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    What theory? Referring to this?
     
  6. cocosul

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    Yea, there nothing fair after the 1st fight on any 1v1or gvg
     
  7. Kirnick

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    Awesome explanation for my silly theory.
     
  8. Ayvell

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    If you cared more to read their complaints than to show off you would have noticed that they want to know a specific rule about it so they can prevent it from happening again. Ppl can't be banned just because "it looks like abuse"! Get real!
     
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  9. Kirnick

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    I never stated the ban is right, i meant somebody acted "smart" to get some advantage and if you might need some explanation about a ban you should have a talk with that staff member or admins.
     
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    Then why do you argue with them?
    If they did, then well done. The game is also about strategy. 30sec of spawning isn't abuse so being smart shouldn't be a reason to punish sb especially since the player who reported them only cares about banning all server and I highly doubt it he ever focuses in pvp! In addition to that, in a server full of actual bug abusing like pingu/sleep skills and also gp abusing (I want your opinion about that one because I saw you relogging several times after killing ppl in Heiron. Is there a reason you do that?) banning ppl for not spawning fast enough is hypocritical.
    No, actually this forum exists so we can all be aware of the rules. I don't see why sth like that should be done through a pm. We all want to know why occasions like that get banned in one sec and others, more serious, are always the exception or there's an excuse behind them...
     
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  11. Kirnick

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    Argue? Saying my opinion is arguin for you? I said they acted smart waiting to get some advantage and that there's no abuse about hide/sleep in other cases.
    GP reward is obtainable for OW kills. Now if after 5 kills it stops giving GP and i even wait after 10 kills but nothing happens, there's nobody that said relogging is GP abuse since OW kills are meant to give GP. Plus, it is not my fault if i'm forced to relog when i got bug after death which happens mostly every time 2-3 ppl are on some1.
     
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    You broke the rules twice with this sentence... 1. admitted to abuse gp which means your gp should be wiped and @Noyah should consider what your ban should be and 2. you just said to everyone in this community how to abuse, which is also bannable.
    We are all forced to relog but we don't have 130k gp. Next time you decide to act like a fair player make sure you are one first!
     
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    Sure, really smart thinking felt in your trap. 1) About relogging to reset the kill count is something that almost WHOLE server is aware of, so surely let's ban whole server about abusing and let's stalk whomever relogs after 5 kills whenever the new innovative system is to gain GP by OW kills.
    2) I got 130k GP because i've joined in every portal that gives GP as well and as you and everybody else may have noticed, when you join BOG or Guardian after the run ends, win or not, you will receive a pretty good amount of GP (not win about 40-50, in case on winning it goes up to 250 being VIP, so counting that for all the runs you made it is a real good amount of GP, and lots of players don't have VIP as well). Plus as every1 may have noticed i'm really active in game since the day of the wipe and i'm free to play all the time i want to.
     
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    Nope. Only those who care to abuse know about it. No surprise the abusers are aways the same ppl!
    If @Noyah does nothing about that then I don't think we need AMs or a HGM around anymore, because it will mean they are purely decorative. 'Cause tbh... We are all sick 'n' tired of all the big talk from AMs while they never actually ban those who keeping abusing on any given occasion! And yep... I am talking about you and your legion mates. @Noyah has to decide if she wants to stand by fair players or by abusers' side. Trust me... this community deserves some justice finally!
     
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    Go create another thread about GP abusing and make a difference about killing Boss and exploiting the OW GP system which should meant to be so.
     
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    This is the perfect thread, simply because you came here to show off to these guys about how they abuse death. For real? YOU show off to them?! You give them advice about how to be fair?! Get real! Look at the legion you chose to be in and look at the ppl you play with and stop acting like you have any sense of justice, 'cause none of you has!
     
  17. vantooth

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    The point here ser is that the Open world gp system should only give you gp with limitation and not meant to be abused by relogging since the gp system of the OW is bugged. If the whole community knows it then why does the gms or even our hgm didn't report it to be fixed and besides if it is bugged then what you've earned in OW gps should be dq or wiped since it came from bug abuse.
     
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    If it's sth legit then the whole community should be informed about it so everyone could do the same. The rest is pure bullshit.
     
  19. Iceberg

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    . Sin can hide for 1min, it is not abuse,how can I just get 30seconds late respawwn which is abuse.

    I already give enough time in fight,just w8 group member. And or gamezaion not need smart people? Just want people do 1v2,and try to lose,but no try to win.
     
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    same here... still need more explanation about what is Death Abuse, Certain Skill Abuse, Hide Abuse, Mount Abuse...

    Battleground TvT dont have auto respawn like 1v1 we free to choose click respawn or not
    theres no rules that clearly said that we must respawn after we die..

    correct me if im wrong ?


    the question is where you got the state that 1 mins if not hide abuse ?? there is no rules that clearly said about that kind of abuse
     
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