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BRING BACK MIXFIGHT

Discussion in 'GamezAION General Discussion' started by Farkle, Aug 27, 2018.

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  1. Farkle

    Farkle Blizzard

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    NOT ALL PPL like ZERG and HEIRON CAN BE VERY ZERGY =.=
    so atleast bring back mixfight but new schedule or something (zerg pvp is boring AF)
    BRING BACK MIXFIGHT
     
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    Ayvell ἔσσεται ἦμαρ

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    The last times I went to Mixfight there was massive race teaming which is actually... zerging! The only difference is that when the 1 lone opponent decided to rage quit because he was sick of being zerged the rest of the ppl were just sitting around and chatting. How is that even pvp?
     
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    Noyah ᴜɴғᴏʀɢᴇᴛᴛᴀʙʟᴇ Forum Legend

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    You know what's funny? Last month I added another 4 mini bases in order to lessen the zerg, but no one even bothers to use them.
     
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    =.= well they shoud atleast extend time duration of events like (god vs GOd , Guardian etc.) that doesnt involve zerg
     
  5. Grrr

    Grrr Highly Damaging Member Forum Legend

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    So the solution is to completely remove even the remote possibility for people to actually fight eachother and dump them in heiron... where you're unable to attack members of the same race and the "pvp" is 90% sitting in the base till you have more players than the guys camping at the bottom, you all jump down, onepush them and go camp them below their base till the same shit repeats. Smart.

    Bring back 3v3 mixxu, disable the chat, start punishing 6/9/12man+ blobs sitting around and doing nothing.

    As for heiron: straight up delete that shit, it doesn't matter if you change the map, it's always the same thing. 2 bases with a fuckload of guards where people wait for a massive zerg before going down 1 path leading to the other base and waiting to get outzerged. Just make a new "RvR" bg. Lasting 30-60minutes, only one map that fits however many people apply, random spawn so people can't run to a safespot with guards. Can't attack your own race and every time you kill someone you get a scorepoint. The race with the most points at the end wins whatever amount of ap/gp.. So kinda a mix between FFA and casemates without the npcs. Now the only problem would be the retards who'd log afk alt accounts to just die and inflate the score, but it's time those retards start getting banned anyway... if there were any actually active ams around.
     
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    First of all I won't even read all that because you could have been active when mix was still a thing and you were flying a kite so... fu. Since you left no one was killing anyone in mix unless SELFISH ppl were doing some civil wars / duels using me and @Vanityfair as healing bots to check how long @Kriplex can last with 3 glads hitting him. Besides that, you left... so fu again!

    PS: You personally know well that mix was one of my favorite things to do in Aion but unless it gets its glory back I don't look forward to it...
    There was a thread by @wolfik332 about a week ago suggesting to disable speed race and give more time to BoG and Guardian. I think that was a great suggestion and I hope that @Noyah will take this into consideration.

    UPDATED REPLY TO @Grrr a.k.a THE DAMAGE:
    After your (discord) QQ I decided to give your post a chance and actually read it...
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    I feel more democratic already... :pompus:
     
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    Vanityfair Getting there

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    Bring Back MIX FIGHT !!!
     
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    ...and unleash the @Grrr beast!
     
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    Yeah, bring back 3man mix, game is completely dead after guardian, and yeah "dead" includes heiron as well, even theres few ppl they just sitting in base, boring boring boring.
    And about that mini maps in heiron, yeah it was a good idea but ppl doesn't prefer pvping there alone instead of zerg. Those parts of the map is completely empty unless theres few box hunters.
     
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    In fact, the only reason we had to disable it temporarily is because the players destroyed what was actually meant to be "Mix fight". People formed groups and for the whole 55 minutes they would just stand and talk about this and that and wait for the poor victim to emerge from the middle of nowhere just to kill him. Now when I say groups I mean more than 5 groups and no I don't exaggerate. Even when you finally saw a group that was not in your "alliance", they would say they were elyos/asmo, and in other words... "let's not kill each other."
    Right now we have no plans to bring mix fight back. Things may change, nothing is permanent.
    While I agree with you about the guards thing, I had to place them to prevent obelisk camping. It's always the same because players don't allow change. -Why? I added 4 more bases to lessen the zerg but no one even bothers to check where these bases are. If people used these bases your gaming experience could be completely different and I'm pretty sure you wouldn't even complain because you didn't have to jump from the base straight into 20 bored players waiting for some action. Most players prefer to play in zergs, and it doesn't matter what you try to do to prevent or lessen the mess, they just will not allow you to do so.
    I agree, and I think that 10-15 minutes (maybe even a little more) will make a difference, especially in battle of gods.
     
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    No need to repeat it, I already know that's why it was disabled. All of that could have been prevented by permabanning 5-10 people and the rest won't do shit, same way there isn't a 15 man blob in ffa. Except it'd be a massive pain in the ass to report them cause everyone's name is changed with this stupid "Fighter" bs. It only serves to make reporting harder, inspect worked in mix and so does chat, making the renaming thing completely unnecessary.

    I know it's not coming back, was just typing solutions out of boredom. I know full well they'll be completely ignored, just like how we'll have to deal with no kills counting in bgs for the next 8-10 months and that accessories skills don't stack with essence since they were implemented god knows how long ago. Aion is on autopilot and though i don't like it we can't do shit about that.


    Ofc you need the guards to prevent camping, the entire approach is wrong. Open world isn't supposed to have bases for both asmo and ely on the same map, that's why ncsoft deleted the 3.0 and 4.0 maps. Back when this server had a population (and a 2nd server) people pvp'd in multiple places because there were more than enough people that when you get sick of 30v30 in 1 location you could go and check another. The shit undergears would stay in the massive zerg and the people who could do better would try to find their own place. Right now we know where everyone is, sure you can fight in another map but we all know there's nobody there and nobody is gonna "sacrifice" his time to patrol a random area in case someone else thought of the same place and went there to fight. Adding more bases doesn't work because it's extra effort to go there and nobody is gonna waste their time for it, hell I didn't even know there are secondary bases, now that I do i won't even bother trying to find them tho. The bgs and these bases have spoiled the players so even if this was all removed, they wouldn't go back to pvping "naturally" via rifting cause everyone became a lazy piece of shit who won't walk 5 minutes through a rift and find a kisk spot before pvping.

    And here's a solution that will be ignored anyway: Remove the shitty mithril/ceramium/blood marks from ingame rewards, they're completely worthless when the starter gear is better than the stuff you can buy with them anyway. Replace those with the 5.0 recovery serums and more mamastone boxes.
    Then enable these recipes http://aiondatabase.net/us/recipe/155202244/
    Make normal mobs in illuma/norsvold drop the missing mats, remove the manastones from the shop because it's a fucking joke to ask for 200$ just to put manastones in your armor/weps for ONE character on a dying pserver when you can get a geared retail account for less.
    1) People go farming the mobs to craft +10
    2) Other people go through rifts to farm the people farming the manastones
    3) The farmers start whining and linking location in LFG
    4) People go to farm the people that are farming the people who farm the mobs
    Bam, open world pvp without dogshit safezones and guards everywhere.. AND you don't have to sell your kidney, your soul and your newborn child to start playing on the server, you're welcome.

    If god forbid these changed are possible, reducing the timer on 1v1/2v2/whatever vs whatever from 1 entire minute to 10-15sec would be bretty good. Back in 4.5 when the bgs were first introduced, scrolls shared the same cooldown so you needed 30seconds just to get crit/atk/run speed scrolls up. Now that you can do that all in 3seconds it's just wasted time and a long opportunity for people to leave. I don't even bother applying to 1v1 anymore cause i know whenever it pops it's just a lot of loading screens and wasted pande scrolls cause all these fuckers leave. Make them lose gp or a random % chance to have their accounts deleted when leaving, ez
     
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    I think that with some adjustments like the ones that @Grrr's suggested teaming could be prevented at least to some extend. If this doesn't work either I suggest we unleash the beast! :D
    A pvp map without any bases could be interesting actually. It would bring kisking back and keep the cowards off map.
    Yep! Would love to see that happen! :joyful:
     
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    Remove DP mobs for the rangers sake!
     
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    Are you both trying to protect rangers for some reason?
    I think this part of your post made sb's pocket cry... ((y))
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    Omg I am crying with laughter with that... (cwl)(cwl)(cwl)
     
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    Up!
     
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    Yeah, they're free kills.
     
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    And here's a solution that will be ignored anyway: Remove the shitty mithril/ceramium/blood marks from ingame rewards, they're completely worthless when the starter gear is better than the stuff you can buy with them anyway. Replace those with the 5.0 recovery serums and more mamastone boxes.
    Then enable these recipes http://aiondatabase.net/us/recipe/155202244/
    Make normal mobs in illuma/norsvold drop the missing mats, remove the manastones from the shop because it's a fucking joke to ask for 200$ just to put manastones in your armor/weps for ONE character on a dying pserver when you can get a geared retail account for less.
    1) People go farming the mobs to craft +10
    2) Other people go through rifts to farm the people farming the manastones
    3) The farmers start whining and linking location in LFG
    4) People go to farm the people that are farming the people who farm the mobs
    Bam, open world pvp without dogshit safezones and guards everywhere.. AND you don't have to sell your kidney, your soul and your newborn child to start playing on the server, you're welcome.


    If god forbid these changed are possible, reducing the timer on 1v1/2v2/whatever vs whatever from 1 entire minute to 10-15sec would be bretty good. Back in 4.5 when the bgs were first introduced, scrolls shared the same cooldown so you needed 30seconds just to get crit/atk/run speed scrolls up. Now that you can do that all in 3seconds it's just wasted time and a long opportunity for people to leave. I don't even bother applying to 1v1 anymore cause i know whenever it pops it's just a lot of loading screens and wasted pande scrolls cause all these fuckers leave. Make them lose gp or a random % chance to have their accounts deleted when leaving, ez[/QUOTE]
     
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    Cycles War is PEACE

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    But seru i am a clerooo im enjoying those those DP's too. :p

    I cant ask for more of what you have just said.
     
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    First of all, no, it doesn't work that way. Players can not be banned just because they are not willing to kill their friends on a bg that certain rules don't apply to for several reasons. Besides, there are ways around your suggestions. Even if the chat is disabled, players can always be marked before entering, which is what players used to do before FFA. There are another ways that are not even worth mentioning.
    The bases were placed above the ground for avoiding it in the first place but as always the players found special ways to get there as well. The whole idea of the map and the way things are going now is what the players wanted to see. We enabled the rifts from Heiron to Beluslan and vice versa once more, but as usual, no one uses them (rifts are not permanent, but if that's what the majority wants, it's something that can be changed).
    Vital Recovery Serums will be added to treasure boxes.
    Probably not gonna happen.
     
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