Hidden nerf: Hunting + New sniping spot

Elk's now take 2 headshot/1headshot+2bodyshots with a +10 sniper rifle.
It used to be only 1 headshot.
The new sniping spot is unBEARable, it takes ages with a +10 sniper rifle to be able to kill a single one and they run fast so enjoy the hit n run to maybe be able to hit them.

I think sniping is now a hobby and i should probably open a Patreon to support this lifestyle.

[INDENT][INDENT]Just by curiosity who's realy sniping anymore?[/INDENT][/INDENT]​

 

Huh? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patreon
That is a site for artists and creators. I am completely unable to draw a line from Hunting in a game, with a sniper matchlock, to opening a page on that site at all?

Also...Not quite sure if you have tested this theory out fully yet?

It might be a temporary thing, or indeed a bug, that you could have reported instead of making yet another "I just wanna complain" thread.
I mean it takes like a couple of minutes to video record what is happening, find a video of it working as it used to, and make a bug report, unless of course you didn't make a search in the first place on whether it is indeed intended or not in the first place

 

"Also...Not quite sure if you have tested this theory out fully yet?"
i have fully tested the sniping after the patch i've also been hunting a long time before the patch i am fully aware of what it take to kill an elk.
as i've tested in the past the lion spot wasn't worth doing they were too tanky and i take that as a game feature like the current state of bears.
maybe we'll see a future balance change for those two spot?

"it might be a temporary thing, or indeed a bug, that you could have reported instead of making yet another "I just wanna complain" thread."
I realy wish i'm wrong and this is temporary!
About it being a bug i don't think it would be considered a bug as i can't think of any way why would the elk suddenly bug and have more hp than they used to,
from my perspective its more of a balancing change that came with the patch that probably wasn't noticed or thought about.

I'm happy this spot is getting some visibility i feared that since the sniping community was so small that it would just die and we would not hear or have any hope for a future balancing change on it.
I wish this will get fixed cause that's something i love doing when i'm wanna spent some time chilling while still making a bit of money.

I wish you the best !

 

@hotdaawwwg
Indeed rifle is bugged. We should hitkill lions with 1 headshot, however it's not happening since rifle was added. That's why everyone still hunting with matchlock. I'm about to make a bug report, if u do this first (because I have more than one bug report to make) I'll definitely pass by to give my experience.

I'm starting to think that's not about your age... And your 3 degrees in science should help you understand a lil bit of sarcasm.

 

I also cant one shot sensitive elk with +10 sniper rife with headshot.
In the patch notes, there is some fix to elk, not sure is it intended to make elk needing 2 shot to kill

 

I've made a bug report thanks for all the feedbacks !

 

I think because u all use Skipping Reloading Trick to skip reloading system in order to hunt faster. This is so much compared to Grind while this is unaccepted > They fixed to make u all have to kill with 2 Headshot or 1 Heashot + 1 - 2 Body Shot and now u all only earn at least 350 - 500m / h with 901 mastery
Sr about my english

 

How to perform the Skipping Reloading Trick? I searched for a long time on the internet and I cant find any guide on this

 

Fixing an issue (exploit of skipping reload) adding a new issue (increased mobs HP) has always been the worse solution implementation one could ever pick for which I believe the developers are smarter than that and this is a temporary bug.
If not then the "Skipping Reload Trick" has to be release since it's clearly that it's not part of the game design and unfair game for everyone who doesn't know or want to use that exploit since as far as I know it's against the rules.

 

Have you ever done any sniping? do you have any idea of how ridiculous those number are?
Even with 1.4k mastery i can go up to 250M/H if im the only one of the spot.
i can't believe you're actualy posting random numbers like that i'm pretty mad about it.

i'd like to add that im aware of the reload skip and even with that you'd have to have a high amount of mastery to reach a good amount of money. overhaul if there was such ammount of money to be made i think id see that spot submerged by people.

Also here is a screenshot of what i used to do in 1h https://i.imgur.com/isqRWUo.png

 

Are u seriously in hunting ?
this pic is with 900 mastery and 300m / h. Obviously If I have 901 mastery, I can earn at least 350m - 400m /h. Up to your skills
This is my current gear before new patch

this video is my manual hunting guide 15' before new patch ( see Uploading Date) with ~855 mastery if I remember right and guess what, I earned 77m within 15' and if it is within 1 hour, it will be about 300 - 350m / h
Your income is pretty low. I think u should focus on your skills before saying that I lied

yeah I know, I dont like to use that trick but in Hunting Area, everyone use that one and that makes me also use it to take advantages like they

Due to rules so I won't say anything about Tricks in Hunting as well as teach someone how to use those tricks.
But you should research before saying someone lied because you can't do it doesn't mean that eveyone also can't do that

 

Looking at latest post based on what you said you earned 77m in the first 15M even if its innacurate to say you make 308M per h based on that i can believe you
never the less i'm using Gathering Mastery and not Hunting mastery so my claims werent totaly correct.

i had done some testing in the past and i probably didnt have enough Mastery in hunting to see any changes so i kept to my Gathering mastery and i'm glad to see i was wrong and that i can improve that.

Now for Hunting reaching high ceiling of mastery is way more complicated than Gethering so i guess what you could except at most if you had Full Tri+Robeau Hunter clothes Pen (wich is the most reasonable item you could expect getting unlike Pen manos) is 740 Mastery + levels (let's say yo uspent a shitton of time hunting so Guru 1 wich is 405 mastery) and you get a total of 1.145 Mastery at best wich is not that much higher than 900 but still it's not enough to reach a significant increase in money.

We can clearly see that just reaching 900 mastery for hunting and only getting 350M/H isnt somethings easy to achieve and that claiming 700M/h ez pz was realy something that you shouldnt have said lightly cause im pretty sure no one will ever be able to reach that ammount.

I'd like to add that without the reload trick you'd made half the money you're making
Hunting was just perfectly fine as it is before the patch the only sad thing was that there wasnt any diversity in what you could snipe

Also i'm glad i thook a screenshot of your first post claiming you were getting on average 700M/h since my point was heavily based on that in the first post since you went back on what you said after a bit of research .

 

In the morning,the staff member in forum asked me to remove infor about " Reload skip trick " and thing related to that so I removed the picture 800m/h of my friend as well as his guide clip about " that trick ". If you are insist on my mistake. You contact me via Youtube Channel which I posted in this post and I will show you evidences.
700m/h is amount you can earn by That Trick as I said but I removed it due to the rules in forum.
To remember, I do not encourage everyone use that trick because it will make unfair to everyone. The reason I said to That trick because I want to show the reason why Dev fixed 2 headshot to Elk instead of 1 Headshot in Old patch. The reason is the trick is so OP which I can earn x1.5 - x2 profit compared to manual hunting.

In additional, that amount profit is in Old Patch. It will be different from New Patch after Dev fix Dmg deal to Elk. Now I think you only earn 200 - 300m/h with 900+ mastery.
To remember, Gathering Mastery is not applied to Hunting.

 

That's unbelievable. your numbers keep growing up the reload skip doesnt make you're sniping rifle a machine gun it just saves you a few second i used to hunt like this and from what ive tested personaly and seen you can NOT make such ammount of money and if it was the case how come i'm not seeing many people hunting? i could barely find anyone before the patch and almost a year ago i know this hunting spot was popular so why isn't it anymore?

I realy feel like you're trolling if you wanna prove something you'll just have to show some proof.
Otherwise you're just pushing an idea something that isnt there and making it more difficult for things to get fixed.

 

This is the last Loot Report with Manual Hunting + 900 mastery before New Patch 1 day.

Why did not you see people hunt ? Because you rarely see them or at least most of them dont know that trick.
People who hunt elk know that trick and they always use it even in new patch but due to HP fixed, that trick is limited
As I said. You can not do that does not mean people can not also do that. why dont you see yourself before saying someone lied ?

 

This is the highest ive been able to get maybe i'm not seeing something? it may be due to the high mastery in gathering+hunting that works together
i'd say you realy got huge amount of levels in both lifeskills+realy good lifeskilling gear this isn't that bad i'm surprised

 

Gathering is not applied to Hunting. You remember this. animal killed by Normal weapon will be calculated to Gathering while animal killed with Matchlock and Snip will be calculated to Hunting Mastery as well as Butcher Knife Mastery also do not affect to it. You dont know that thing ?
Hunting and Gathering are different

 

I realy doubt that gathering mastery isnt applied my number are close to your and im only at 600Mastery ive tested both but as i said not with an insane Hunting Clothes.
maybe this require further testing.

 

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I think people who know large profit from hunting always hide it for self so you rarely see they show that profit. But now you know that.
if u want to test. Just use Basic Butcher to loot animal and use Manos butcher to compare the difference. The result is same because I tested it. Currently I was and am using Clean Loggia Butcher Knife to loot and the profit is not different from your profit

 

To be fair i don't see how it would be something so secret that no one will talk about it you're doing it yourself as we speak.
i've always promoted Hunting inside my guild and yet barely anyone hunts, you could say its due to the amount of money that i make that isnt envious, but still
why would you hide yourself to hunt? if there is profit no matter what you do sooner or later everyone gonna know about it i have yet to witness such amount of money being made.
Also my main source of income comes from cooking/farming/Horse training hunting is merely a fun distraction that can be worth the money if you spent a long time on it.
as it is curently its unbearable even with the reload tricks and as you've mentioned you've been contacted by a staff saying to remove some of the things you said about reloading but i yet have to see it happen to me.

Again what's so secretive about it? hunting is fun and you can make some money with it maybe you broke the system but as far as im aware its all talk.
and if you did i don't even understand why you would try to shoot yourself in the foot with your main source of income.
you could never have told me about the hunting mastery scaling or anything but still for me your arguments don't add up.

It's too bad i didnt spent time recording my hunting session and my testing .

Anyway we'll see how it goes i hope this get fixed so i can enjoy it as it is. A fun lifeskill to relax with.