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MR vs MA and Various skill Proc.

Discussion in 'GamezAION General Discussion' started by ReedAdrian333, Apr 30, 2025.

  1. ReedAdrian333

    ReedAdrian333 New Member

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    hello i would like to talk about the skills proc chance on high MR character, the purpose that we used MR is to avoid getting Bullied by Magic Users, SW, SORCS and SM SLeep and Fear still has High chance of proc even though we have over 500+difference in MR X MA, Isnt it for every 10 MR difference u get 1% chance of resisting the skill?? so if over 500 MR difference then 50% chance of Proc, i still get slept and feared by SM, SW and Sorc with no MA buff and no devuff on me, its very frustrating as a Cleric we have low MB we cant even hit hard but our opponents can still play us around like dolls, maybe atleast fix the sleep and fear chance? it has a very high proc even with high MR and opponenst low or no MA manastones and buffs. and if possible so we can fight baclk maybe make 1.3% increase in resist chance, it would make the game a little bit balance i think. everyone feel free to argue with me

    Yours Truly JIRI! asmo side
     
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    Besides i don't know & can't tell if procing skills such as "Fear/Sleep" have been modified here, it's not as you said.
    MR/Block/Parry/Evasion are % capped which means, you can have more MR than opponent's MA and still have a chance for the skill to go thru (proc). As for MR cap it's 40% and no, it's not that 10MR=1% of resist aside there are various calculations influencing. I don't remember at all how much MR you need againt X MagAccu in order to reach or get close to the cap, all i'm saying is that even if you'd reach like 1k more MR than opponent's MA, your opponents will still have chance to proc their magical skills. Reminder, ALL classes have magical skills such as CCs even as "physical classes" mostly sins and rangers which rely on MA (glad+temp as well).
    FYO as for block, cap should be 60%, parry 50%, evasion 30%.
    Cleric, just like chanter is known to deal lower dmg for obvious reasons (healer class). Unlike chanter, i can tell cleric's DMG is kinda better if you would run with magic boost as offensive build. If you'd play ranger with MR manastones (defensive build) then you have no right to complain about it as it's your choice to go for that path, i'd say you should instead learn how to play cleric being offensive and menage to outplay your opponent. It can be pretty hard because as FULL STIGMA server, some classes have way better advantage than others (consequence=unbalance, i'd say)...as you should know, cleric as stigma server could pick 3 different stigma trees, full DMG, full healing or hybrid...this happens for other classes as well, so you could have better chances to deal with some classes. This is why for example a gunner which is a full dps/dmg class has so many skills to burst any opponent in short time, just like sin and ranger (according to your opponents obviously), while it's not supposed to be so.
    I mean, as cleric vs gunner -> gunner less dmg skills ->cleric would have better chance to counter and menage to survive/kill.
    SongWeaver is an hybrid class just like cleric/chanter but with different abilities obviously, so same applies to this class (DMG/Support=Heal/Hybdir=some dmg+heal-support skills as for stigma tree build).
    RNG system in aion has always been an issue or helpful thingy in the battle anyawy, for RNG i mean stuff which has certain chance=% to proc as you should know, armour +20 skill effects like "paralize/silence+bind" or attack/defense boost etc, godstones and also skill procing effets as stun/knockdown/knockback/aethershold/fear/sleep...

    This should explain your situation i'd say...even tho, i repeat, Fear/Sleep proc might be reviewd from devs thru some accurate tests on MR/MA and game mechanic/knowledge not to create further frustration for these class users and bring on a real disadvantage.
     
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    Thank you for this, yes id say your statements are correct, and if its true that 40% is the CAP for MR then well sht, id rather get Magic Suppression then, Less Damage but more Sleep or Fear but what armor has better magic SUppression there are no Yellow stones for that , back to Brigade general xD but no PVP defence. hay yes its hard being cleric maybe id make another class full Damage jsut to have fun hahaha
     
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    I don't know which set is better (not playing at all), try checking players and asking around...but again, maybe sleep/fear skill penetration has to be reviewed, don't know if they might have increased the basic skill's mag accu to help CCing high MR users for obvious reasons.
     
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    Stehphirlos New Member

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    Hello friend!
    As a Spiritmaster player, I have to tell you that there are certain sets that have definitely given me trouble. I won’t name names, but these are builds specifically made to be very annoying at least for me, since I’m focused on DPS and crowd control.

    The set they usually use is full Antriksha Cloth, yes, cloth, because it has higher MR stats as a PvP set.
    They also use Sunayaka's Hairpin, or some go for Master Carved Glasses (I’ve seen a few being sold on the Elyos side), though Sunayaka’s has better MR.

    They use food that gives MR, and some also use suppression scrolls though those are mainly to reduce damage.

    Even so, it’s not easy. I’ll tell you that I have around 3350+ MA easily (with buffs from the Water Spirit, Simp-Mind, Spirit E., and food).

    Landing skills on them is a different story, especially because Templars/Clerics are really annoying, particularly when they have around 3200 MR, I literally miss everything. I have to rely on using all three pet buffs just to land a Fear and gain some control.

    So u can try with differents sets.
     
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    Hi thanks for the reply, i also use this set my friend, idk but for some reason some sorcs and SM and SW still lands 3/4 times sleep fear and penguin dance on me , i dont have 3200 MR only about 3100, but damn, this shouldnt work , weve sacrificed our magic boost and defense against phyiscal order for us to live and supposedly not be affected by this skills but still they proc, how do u even tag a GM, they should test this , becuase they annoy the fck of us and weve sacrificed our defence against ranger and glads were paper now., @GM? @Marvel @Carl, is this how u tag?
     
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    I've played Cleric for my entire Aion career, I never complained being played around by other classes since I am not playing solo. Joking tho :D:D:D

    Get 2 sets of armors and weapons (mace+shield); 1 set for FULL MR and the other is MB/MA. You have all the skills you need since this is a full stigma server, you just need to use the right skill to counter the attacking class in the right time. Just saying.

    IDK if 3500 MR is achievable with this server's current version. But who knows, you just need the right things ya know.

    Use boss dropped accessories (Earrings, Rings, Belt, Headdress-Sunayaka Hairpin, Necklace) if you want higher MR, in exchange, you sacrifice PVP Def and Attack. Use Ring of Ancient Magic and MR food.
     
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