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Please buff the Ranger

Discussion in 'Suggestions' started by CCCC, Jun 6, 2025.

  1. CCCC

    CCCC New Member

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    During my time playing the sever, I’ve observed that the Ranger class is often overlooked or outright rejected by the majority of players.
    Please consider adding skills such as "Bloodlust Arrow" or significantly buffing the Ranger in other aspects.
     
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    alertoking New Member

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    BUff ranger and nerf that fooking bard T_T and also add some magical defense on gladiators it looks like there is no equiped armor when attaked by gunner Grrrrrr!
     
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    Celeste Not-Quite-Master of Disguise Forum Legend

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    Iirc, songweaver in this patch is the most cancer. So, you must have a lower ping + better gears to actually kill a good sw.
     
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    CCCC New Member

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    good idea
     
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    CCCC New Member

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    After playing on the server for a while, I’ve come to feel that the Ranger class needs to be under the effect of all available buffs just to perform on par with other classes. Would it be possible to consider increasing the attack power of Bestial Fury and Bow of Blessing by an additional 15% each (20>>35, 10>>25), on top of their current effects? I believe this adjustment could help bring Rangers closer in balance without making them overpowered.
     
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  6. CCCC

    CCCC New Member

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    Currently, only well geared Rangers are able to join Kamar Aly, and even then, many geared Rangers are still being overlooked or excluded.
    This suggests that the current balance or perception of the Ranger class may still need improvement, even for players who have invested in top gear.

    *Oh, I just realized I made a mistake earlier. it's not specifically about Kamar. However, in many other instances and dungeons, Rangers are facing similar issues.
     
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    lemon07r New Member

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    Honestly I would be happy if Rangers even only got QoL buffs for their buffs. It's really annoying having to rebuff so frequently. In PvE it's easy enough but in PvP things are happening very fast so it can quickly become a hindrance when you're trying to juggle a lot of things at once. Would be cool if all the 1min no cd buffs were just made into toggles like natures blessing, etc. They have no CD anyways..
     
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    You know how ridiculous of a request that is right? You're not considering the entire game as a whole when suggesting those changes. For example, now those buffs would not be subject to removal from an SM?
     
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    quite hard to kill top class player even ur on maximum full rank 1 set and acces and +25 equipment still soft as paper tissue
     
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    lemon07r New Member

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    I don't think it's that ridiculous, it's not like we're buffing an OP class, but I do agree with your point about the buffs not being able to be dispelled. I guess my next suggestion would be to bump up the duration's to 2-3min and increasing the number of shots focused shots last for. This is not as OP of a change as pretty much everything else that has been suggested here. I know most people think rangers are the worst class in 4.8 all stigma server, but I think they're okay and don't need that big of a buff. They do decent damage already, issue is they're still completely glass cannon and fold like paper and are pretty hard to play in PvP for that reason, so I think the best solution is to make changes that make them easier to play rather than bruteforcing things, unless we're gonna buff something that's currently almost useless, like strengthening eye, which could end up becoming a viable alternative to focused shots in longer fights where rangers struggle most. Alternative ideas, removing the pdef debuff from focused shots, and increasing the evasion buff in dodging. Both are really small changes and wont really move the needle, but help slightly with their hardest matchups; plate classes.
     
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    My only gripe with ranger on here is for one, there is this fake skill delay that stops you from double jumpshotting, apart from your arrow strike combo. This delay also prevents you from being able to fully cancel focused shot casting animation (prior to 4.8 every buff had a 1s recast cd but after 4.8 you can BF>FS in one jump animation WITHOUT ever getting a cast bar). And traps are very finicky, they don't play well at all with server desync. If they fixed these things I think ranger would be a lot more playable, but yes full stigma server favors the classes with offensive and defensive specs the most.
     
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    I believe that Ranger is not only lacking in survivability but also falls behind other classes in terms of damage output. This is especially noticeable in both PvE and PvP scenarios, where its DPS is clearly lower than that of classes like Gunner.

    Based on this, I propose a damage enhancement mechanism that is built upon two long-duration buff skills(Bestial Fury and Bow of Blessing). In PvP, a Ranger must be under full buff uptime just to perform on par with other classes, whereas those classes do not have the same requirement.

    In addition, I think the current amount of control skills is sufficient. A skilled Ranger can kill other classes during the duration of trap activation. However, the damage is often just slightly insufficient to secure the kill — even when weaving normal attacks between skills. This issue is compounded by Ranger's inherently low magic accuracy, which makes trap-based control effects unreliable due to their probabilistic nature.

    As for other potential adjustments, such as increasing the number of uses for evasion skills, I believe this needs further discussion. I’m unsure whether such a change would overly affect 1v1 balance or remain irrelevant in group combat.

    That said, it is widely recognized that Ranger’s survivability is its most significant issue at present.

    Right now, I don’t see any hope for meaningful change. This server has already gone through three seasons, and yet classes like Bard have never been nerfed. I’ve seen many other classes completely toyed with and dominated by Bards.

    I sincerely hope the GMs will start taking balance issues seriously. Some players may choose to reroll and start over with a different class, but others may simply choose to quit altogether.
     
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  13. lemon07r

    lemon07r New Member

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    I would be happy with any changes or buffs to ranger at all. It really is a weak class in this server. I don't even play it anymore but feel bad for other rangers, and usually avoid recruiting any for bgs unless they're really geared. Honestly their damage isn't even that bad, it's just that it runs out super quickly (you'll be sitting with all your skills on CD or out of mana very often, especially if the other team has a cleric) and has a very high investment cost (high cds, lots of having to prepare buffs, which make it almost impossible to play from behind cause you'll either die on spawn while trying to buff or you have to fight without them at all, and hit like a noodle). All these issues and still dealing less damage than other classes like bard, gunner, sorc, sm, etc
     
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    I feel your bro, bard is OP in this server their just making gladiator as a paper
     

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