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[Gamez] Message to Staff / Players

Discussion in 'Old Threads' started by Exposed, Oct 26, 2010.

  1. Exposed

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    I agree with other fellow players, staff should discuss their issues on their own within their own, don't bring it out to the community to create chaos between players. If you guys cant come to an agreement about your issues just resign, and when you resign just tell the community you have problems in real life, or that you need more time for your personal needs or something, don't just start bashing out about each others ways and deeds. When you have a conflict within yourselves; approach it and solve it, but if you mess up, own up to it and quit like a man and dont whine like a little girl.


    I also agree about the admins, it seems that all they care about is having players, having those who keep donating over and over and not caring for the rest, everything or at least most of what they do leads to more and more donations...for example, not releasing a new item.pak to "stop dupers from duping." which I think its just bullshit, if you want to stop dupers and hackers do it the the hard way, do it the pro way, dont do it my making you community's life a living hell just because it makes yours easy and helps you get more donations. I thought making servers was to serve those who came to play it for you and occasionally help you with it. Making hackers GMs just because it seems you cant stop their hacking is the most ridiculous way to go with it, if you cant handle it, ask your community for help, don't just hide from it covering it up by making stupid statements and making up stupid excuses a 5 year old would not believe, instead you should man up to it and ask for help when needed. Am pretty sure there are others as sneaky as those "hackers" to figure things out.

    About the so called corruption it is true no matter what you say to hide it, it has been seen by many players and don't ask for proof because when players don't have proof you ask for it, and when they have some you say its not "solid" and when they have concrete proof you just ignore the threads, close them and move on. You should pay more attention to the things that concern your players instead of the incoming funds from them. Be more strict with GMs, they get corrupted suspend them for some time, corrupt again, take their tittles away, of course that would not work since admins are never on to check on theirs. This keeps happening over and over because admins don't mind it and don't even look for these things, as a matter of fact you only see them online is in the forums(never in the game) when announcing a so called "update."

    Sometimes however, its true players look for "corruption" when there isn't any to find something to complain and create drama about, like "GMs helping guilds and 'friends' in the server." That's why i keep saying it, GM's should stay away from joining community guilds, you have your own guild "Aion Masters." It doesn't matter if you're on your GM char or on a regular char, if players know its you, your still a GM. Therefore if a GM wants to join a community guild, keep your GM identity secret to them, let them know you as a 'regular player' that way if you do shit to profit your 'regular char' no one will know and whine about it. I still think GM's should get some sort of compensation for doing their jobs since they don't get paid. So do it, but keep it a secret from players ffs!

    Ok im tired of writing so i'll finish it with this: To admins. You might keep 3 loyal players who keep donating 100$ each weekly, but you might loose 20 players who donated 30$ each weekly, at the end majority wins, your loss.


    I hope no one takes it as an offensive message because that's not what it's meant to be, it's just the truth as i see it.
     
  2. deathpenalty92

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    i beleive that if a staff member should make a thread about an issue publicly, the only reason it should be noticed puplicly is if it can be constructively conversed. for example raik3n thread about the staff. but i aggree with some of your stetements.
     
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    so? happy?
     
  4. ciufpuf

    ciufpuf Attention Whore! Forum Legend

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    i just read raiken's thread..i think i'll read urs tomorrow^^
     
  5. Raazzil

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    Noone noticed raik3n's thread yet, Sadly..
    I tought some Senior AM or Admin would read the topic.. but It seems they haven't =/

    About this.. well, Maybe ur right, maybe not. . . Everyone is complaining about the same thing.
    Alente stated b4 that the situation with the items.pak could be reversed. . . Still not sure if It will, but time will say..
     
  6. BetaMax

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    first the public wanted transparency
    when it happened, they want staff to do it with in themselves...

    ano ba talaga kuya.. oops..
     
  7. Jessica

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    I think one thread is enough. Raik3n's thread had a lot of replies, so if the admins ignored that thread that had multiple replies from different players who donated and not. This thread would still come up useless, it's redundant and whatever we do we are just players. They decide what they do with their server. It's theirs not ours.
     
  8. itsaleckz67

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    check your room mate..
    well let them have some couple of meetings then they discuss things internally..
    :whistling:
     
  9. ciufpuf

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    we are the customers and after all we keep this server alive not carl/karissa..
     
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    i wonder what will happen if carl pulls the plug like...... RIGHT NOW. :) and remove the website and everything. :D
     
  11. Lucent

    Lucent Ghost in the shell of a former Drama Queen Forum Legend

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    If nothing else, the forum whores saw the thread :p we're usually in invisible mode so we might not show up on the list of people that viewed the thread, but we saw it.

    Karissa has a knack for noticing large threads too, so i wouldnt worry too much about her seeing it.

    In ways I agree that we should fix duping at its source (note: we've been trying to, unfortunately most of our past devs couldnt really fix it for good and now we hardly even have any devs) instead of just using items.pak to fix it, but items.pak is also just a convenience, the game was built around those items being untradable, whos to say we should've spoiled you guys by changing it in the first place :p
     
  12. Jessica

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    like sanctus said, we're not customers. they can do whatever they want you know. let's hope carl/karissa don't get tired of the drama, but the thought of that. yeah they won't coz they do get money from the server.
     
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    u all are wrong..the big community of gamez keep it alive not carl/karissa..if tomorrow 1000 players decide to move to another server i would like to see what will carl/karissa keep alive..an empty server that's what and than they will just be obligated to close it..
    rofl my pc went crazy sry for this^^
     
  14. Frenemy

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    Well, the people who donate could be considered as costumers. Ofc this is illegal server, so no official Cash Shop can ever exist, but still u get a reward (-something like a cookie for being a good kid-) for donating...

    So yea, we are their costumers. Without us there would be no GamezAion, nor CrystalAion... Without us this server wouldn't ever exist.

    One last thing: Do u know how many new Pservers pop up everyday in hope to become well known, famous and succeed like this one? Do u know how many Pservers shut down due to low activity of the community?

    Admins should be thankful for having such dedicated community that supports them no matter wat!!
     
  15. Raazzil

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    I support them in my own Way :p
    I've seen many ppl QQin about this and about that.. However, they still play here :D
    I guess GM's / Admins did a few things right, otherwise noone will stay .
    And I've got all my faith on Sycth, he'll be the best GM imo :D
     
  16. Exposed

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    Well there's two types of servers, a more free server(Donations are only for minor things, involve stuff that wont cause big differences between players who donate and those who don't, donations mostly cover for the server to keep running). The other type of server is the profiting one(owners make a huge profit off the donations from players, not just to keep a server running but to feed their pockets). As far as I know Gamez is by far one of the most profiting servers out there...there are players who have spent not hundreds but thousands of dollars into the server so just because its a "donation" doesn't mean its not a business...If it isn't done as a business, do this...Give nothing back to those who "donate." No items, no tittles, nothing at all, i bet you 100% that the "donation" percentage would drop by far over a 95%.
     
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    Wanna hear a story:

    The is a server who runs smoothly. Where if u want to be GM, u have to donate 100$ first. Many people do donate and apply but only few are chosen. If the chosen GMs will be inactive/cause drama or cheat in any way then very next day they got kicked from Staff team...

    Did u like it? Now, this is wat organization means. Admins are strict to GMs and they keep only the ones who got the skills and the bawlz to be a good one.

    Do u see the same happen here? No.
    Why? Idk... are they lazy enough to bother to be more organized and strict?
     
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    I speak for myself when I say not even I would still play here if I didn't have fully ABG'd sorc gear on my sorcerer right now.

    Being honest, maximum profit is when trades are allowed as donators go out of their way to get more donations in order to provide gear for other people/trade/etc.

    But I shouldn't have to speak on that and point that out being a clinical neuroscience student and not even needing a buisness degree behind me.


    It's called basic fundementals of profit...

    Didn't I post this on another thread on this website? I thought I did.


    Buisness is a fickle *****: take too much and she will leave you, give her too much and she will abuse you. A proper balance of giving and taking is needed to reach the apex of the bellcurve of profit and win out the most.

    Simply taking and taking and taking will result in the "*****" getting angry and leaving, people are very testy buggers.

    ---------- Post added at 01:49 PM ---------- Previous post was at 01:47 PM ----------

    btw I still think its pretty damn sad that the gm's are pretty much an elyos-collective.
     
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    Im sure the higher ups have read Raikens thread, they just did so in Ninja mode
     
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    Bingo!! They do it but they don't hide shit from whom they're doing it with...its simple plain and strict, pay the $100, apply, don't abuse it or misdo it or you'll loose it...but that doesn't happen here. Here it's basically this way... You're forced to PAY! not "donate" to be decent at your gameplay otherwise you'll just be overpowered by a donator, so admins make it seem like they're doing what they're doing for YOUR benefit not for the benefit of their pockets.
     

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