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Not So Focus In PvP!

Discussion in 'Old Threads' started by Khallarion, Nov 8, 2010.

  1. Khallarion

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    Hello Everybody!

    I know that this server is one PvP server! But, I was thinking a little, taking a look in the economy and the number of players and ony thing come in my mind!

    And if we start to chagen the game economy, if we start to learn some professions and start selling usefull things in the broker, and if the drop hate change a little to balance the economy?!

    Ok, isn't so nice if we think that we can't drop like we are droping now, but I think decrease the drope rate a little and focus more in the balance the economy we can balance the game and give a little more "real experience" to the players, understand!?

    Doesn't need to be like the retail, just need to focus more in one balanced game, a little "nice dificult" to make some fun, just to not been so much a PvP server!

    Ok ok...you can say: "If you don't want PvP server go out!" But I'm just trying to express my point of view! It's bad that i don't have fluency in English to express exactly what I'm trying o say, but I think it's the center of the Idea!

    Make some focus in balancing our economy, lear some professions, make some money not just for dropping, but by other ways, continue in the PvP focus, but with sothing more, to keep our players fight against the other race, but doing other things too!

    What do you guys think!? Please show me your opnions, I want to see if my ideas are usefull or not!


    Thank You for the attention!

    Have a nice day!
     
  2. Clk

    Clk do you even lift

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    I am always selling things for normal-low prices just to help out new people. Don't know if i am the only one but at least i try :p
     
  3. Khallarion

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    Yes! Like that!

    But you know that some people don't have this focus to help others!

    We are not the ones that do that, for sure exist other like us, but if our "system" if our server make all of us do by this way to, help other to make some money, buying and selling to give for everyone what everyone needs, will be nice too!

    You need money, you can drop, you can sell materials for craft, you can sell potions and with this you help others, balance the economy and have more fun and reality in the game!

    You give other thing to the players do, you keep in the server all kinds of players, like the ones who wanna fight, others that like learn professions, others that like collect materials...I think by this way you can call attention of more players, more people and can increase the server player's rate!
     
  4. blinky

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    I feel this game is ridiculously easy to earn kinah. I've earned a few billion in just my first week, leveled up a few level 55's, full Anuhart gear, and Tahabata weapons. With that said, I don't feel anything is overpriced in relation to the amount of kinah you can earn.

    However, I still to this day do not purchase food, or pots, or scrolls. They are scaled up accordingly, but I still don't buy them despite being able to. Personal preference.

    We are just dealing with larger numbers, and eventually supply will outstrip demand. Tahabata's weapons are falling in price due to saturation, and the same for many Anuhart gear. Nothing is really out of reach really. Just go and farm. Extract the stones and sell, and sell manastones. Attend a simple fort raid for 3 silver medals, and sell them for one to two billion kinah each. That will fund a few characters.

    I could never, ever achieve these results in retail, to what I have on this private server. We are dealing with large numbers, but nothing is impossible, or out of reach.
     
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  5. Khallarion

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    That's the problem, or "problem"! We are dealing with large numbers and I think it take of some fun from us! Like you say: "This game is ridiculously easy to earn kinah"

    If we have some nice dificult to earn Kinah, we can do other things, make focus in other things and discovery more from the game! I think this "dificult" will help people to stay in the server and will be more hard people go out because they don't want to play more, because of the easy way that they reach their objectives.
     
  6. Ashtar

    Ashtar Enraged Ashtarius Forum Legend

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    Sunnirius if you have attended events in the last day you will see I have dropped the prize of kinah considerably to a max of 50m excluding tournaments. The economy has gotten screwed up a bit and the prices at the broker are ridiculous.

    As far as the drop rate goes... its fine. All people want to do is to level, get their gear and go pvp. If you've ever done dp with no prem you will see it's not so easy to get the drops you need there.

    As far as the crafting stuff goes, I think most people either craft to use the items themselves or for their pvp groups/legion members to use.
    Most are not going to waste their time gathering crafting mats to make crafted items to sell especially since we dont even have morphing available. Aether is very easily gathered but other mats are not. i.e. sapphire for greater awakening scrolls.

    I think one of the more popular items to sell right now is stigma shards since the majority of the new people have to go and re-equip their stigmas every time they log in.

    For myself, I'm all for helping other people in game but there comes a point when they must help themselves.
     
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  7. Raika

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    Opps Wrong server
     
  8. blinky

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    I can agree with what you are saying to some extent.

    PVP and pimping out your character is a means to an end, but once you reach that end, what is there left to do? I understand what you are saying.

    To be honest, the reason I joined this server is to max out all job classes, and really find out the one class I enjoy the most. I would then take that back to retail. Why? Because it would take a year to max out in retail, and it's possible to max out in a week or two here. Hell, I can max out a character in a few hours. With that said, you understand what to expect endgame, to know what you feel comfortable with to take back to retail, if that's your game plan. It's my game plan.

    Private servers are great, but they are PVP. They lack PVE, and most likely won't be true PVE to any significant degree. However, private servers are very enjoyable until the euphoria is over. I'm nearing the end of that stage for myself. I enjoy it, but I'll probably go back to retail soon enough for the PVE we lack here.

    However, I will jump back and forth. There's room for everything to keep this enjoyable.
     
  9. AdamantiumZ

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    Make the //wc to 100m each shout =D jk
     
  10. Khallarion

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    Blinky got my point, he understand and express my idea better than me!

    But what Gm says it's true! As I said too, the people will focus in thenselves, not in the others, they will craft things for thenselves, they want reach max level, great equips and star to fight!

    Well, but, if we want to craft, we can do it! I think we can use morth, creat items with aether and DP! Even the other materials still hard to get, with aether and DP we can creat lots of materials, thousands and make scrolls and potions!

    I think it's just the focus of the people and the server! I don't wanna change nothing, but as our friend Blinky said: "private servers are very enjoyable until the euphoria is over." And I think we can change it and make the game more fun than th retail, we can do it if we focus in it and do what need to be done.

    But it's just one idea, I let the administration of the server for who knows what to do, I'm only a player with some ideias!


    Thank you all for the time and attention here!!
     
  11. Alaz

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    u can also try going to asmodea they usually sell things cheaper than elyos
     
  12. Khallarion

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    Ah! Thank you my friend for your preocupation!

    But what I trying to say isn't that is hard to get things, but that our economy focus just in gears for pvp!

    We lost much of the game, a lot of other things that can be done just for focusing in pvp! It's that! ^^

    But I will check Asmodae to see how it is!

    Thank you again!
     
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    I like the way he is, he would be better if they had not done some updates
     
  14. Nujabes

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    Mhm, I myself have noticed gears being sold around 200m-400m recently and not even refined at all. I sell these level 50 gear drops around 20-30m, food around 25m, scrolls 50m and so on. The only item I would sell for 1b is the 10% godstone.

    Maybe if the rates were reduced or money has more essential purposes things would be different. I'm sort of 50% on the refine enchantment rate, I'd be 100% okay with it if this was how it were at the very beginning of the server, but the original players took this advantage so it's quite a side track.
     
  15. Khallarion

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    Hum, understand!

    Yes if you like just to do PvP it's a great server! You can reach max level and get some nice equips and star to fight!

    I think the news uptade are good fo the reason that this don't alow the players make the game more easy than it is! For exemple, we have players that abuse in the votes and get one anuhart set with lots of accounts, account vote points, they use the item pak and give all items to one char...it is the oposite that what I'm trying to say, it's destroy absolutely the economy and you don't need to do nothing, just vote!

    So by this way the server start to be boring about some months and you stop play in the server, the Administrators lost one players and the oportunity to make some money or develope the server with the donation money...I think because of that new uptades are coming righ now!

    Making the server not so easy and not so hard will keep more players playing for more time and more donation comes to the server and the Administrators can do lots of things for us...it's what I'm tryingo to say too!
     
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    putting a cap always helps...
    atleast.....
     
  17. Nujabes

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    Maybe make the monsters as tough as they're in retail?
    Or Anuhart gears not tradable?
    I can't say lose the vote system because then you'd have to wipe and that wont really do well at all.
     
  18. Khallarion

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    Yes, true Nujabes!

    I don't think to lost the vote system! It's just to do some things that you said too, like make the monsters more strongers than it is! To be fun kill then! To have some chalange!

    Make the Anuhart not tradable will make us focus more in the vote points and in play more to get what we want! If you don't like to wait to get what do you want, you can donate!

    It's a good idea too! But, like we are saying here, it depends of the focus and at first time the focus and objectives of our Administrators!
     
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    Maybe have a progressive rates?

    1-20
    Exp: 5x
    Drop: 5x
    Quest: 5x
    Kinah: 5x
    Gathering:5x
    Crafting: 5x
    Abyss points: 1x

    20-30
    Exp: 10x
    Drop: 10x
    Quest: 10x
    Kinah: 10x
    Gathering:10x
    Crafting: 10x
    Abyss points: 2x

    30-40
    1-20
    Exp: 15x
    Drop: 15x
    Quest: 15x
    Kinah: 15x
    Gathering:15x
    Crafting: 15x
    Abyss points: 3x

    40-55
    Exp: 20x
    Drop: 20x
    Quest: 20x
    Kinah: 20x
    Gathering:20x
    Crafting: 20x
    Abyss points: 5x

    Just a thought.

    Could increase the prices of stigma skills that are sold too.
    Lower rate of gathering, drop and crafting.

    I'm okay with the stuff atm (feels a bit easy but yeah) but I'm sharing my ideas too.
     
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  20. Khallarion

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    Hum! o.o

    A really nice idea I think! Because with it we can enjoy the low levels, but isn't so dificult level up too! With that we have people enjoying the start of the game, selling items for others and on economy more balanced!

    We will have a game play more enjoyable and not so PvP! For PvP and just PvP we have Gamez Aion!

    Nice Idea dude! xD
     

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