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"Chanters are healers".

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Dimitra, Nov 24, 2010.

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  1. Dimitra

    Dimitra 安心。 Forum Legend

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    So I've come across many incidents like this and I don't know if the person that actually told me this is gonna read this, but anyway.

    I've seen lots of people coming up to me and saying "why didn't you heal me? You're the freaking healer in here".
    I don't really think chanters are healers, and that's because priests are divided into two sub-classes, one called Chanters and the other one, CLERICS.

    Almost all of clerics' skills are used for healing and there are some buffs included in them. On the other hand, almost all of chanters' skills are for buffing or are mantras or stats improvement and some of them are used for healing. They have like two or three proper healing skills (please don't tell me they have ten, cause 7 out of10 heal 50MP every 2 seconds for 10 seconds in total).

    So you really think Chanters are healers?
    "You should have healed me, you're the damn healer here".

    And don't tell me, "yeah chanters are healers, you just don't know how to use the class" cause I always use my healing skills as I have to, but sometimes the reuse time is the thing standing in my way.

    If Chanters are healers, then what should we call clerics? BUFFERS? Please.
     
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    Cleric's are mainly for keeping the group alive with their massive group heals, as chanter's are meant to keep the group buffed with mantra's as well.

    Imo Clerics keep groups alive and chanters keep themselves alive o_O
     
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    Dimitra 安心。 Forum Legend

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    Go tell that to the you're-a-freaking-healer people.
     
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    Thats just an excuse people use when they die.

    "Uhhh.. Uhh.. why didnt you heal me??"
     
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    Chanters are a hybrid class, but every Gladiator in game doesn't know anything except tanking so they expect you to heal them. Ignorance is awesome.
     
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    Dimitra 安心。 Forum Legend

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    Nice. I'm glad I didn't see the "You just don't know how to use the class" thing.
     
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    chanters are buffers
    clerics are healers

    clerics have more advanced heal
    chanters advanced buffs

    chanters are needed in group pvp for buffs and support heal cuz a cleric cant heal everyone in the group if he's getting attacked
     
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    They also add "you're the healer here" as I've already said. That's something that reaaally frustrates me.
    "Go play a chanter yourself and tell me if they're healers or not", that will be my answer.


    Right. Like you said, additional heal, not main heal. I'm done with these kids yelling at me because I couldn't heal them while 3 bosses were attacking them.
     
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    Chanters are meant for many things:

    In my view of them if you're the only healing class there then you're main goal is to buff + heal. Not DPS.


    Just as a spiritmasters role is only to CC, a spiritmaster that focuses on DPS is a moron.

    But, if you have a cleric then you should be trying to buff + dps... and definately provide some off-healing to support.


    Believe it or not, clerics heals aren't enough in tough situations/battles.

    So I'd get off the chatners aren't healers, yes... they aren't the BEST healers... but they definately make a large impact and have a variety of heals they can provide.
     
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    Basically they can either choose to take care of themselves like they're supposed to (helping with the buffs and mantras is helping enough)

    Or they can choose to heal someone else and die during it.
     
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    I've already tried out a cleric and I've seen their healing abilities. Like stated before, I don't mean that a single cleric can heal a group of many people, but they sure can keep up a small group in DP or abyss or anything else.
    It's just that people always come up to me with the you're-a-healer opinion. I'm not a healer, never was, never will be. Chanters are not meant to be healers, and that's why most of their skills are for buffing purposes.


    Let me give you today's example. I was in the abyss core so one group spotted me and added me in. After a fortress siege, we got for some artifacts. A sorcerer was supposed to be tanking so after he died, he's like "What are you doing? I do the damage, you heal."

    I said nothing because I was too bored to start a convo, but the second time we tried out, the mob was doing huge damage on him, like 3,000HP every two seconds. How am I supposed to heal him? Chanters' best healing skill heals almost 2.500HP and the reuse time does not help in instant healing.
     
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    Hummm... im still a decent group healer when i need to be but i mostly focus on DPS and stunning sorcs/SMs/Clerics (most troublesome ones)
     
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    dont lie..
    we know wat u do
     
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    A decent group healer? I don't know.
     
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    Im sure u know! :ninja:
     
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    yeah, i dont see why ppl call chanters healers.. i always used to solo alone abyss and i can kill up to whole group when UD wasn't fixed.
     
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    You make me proud
    :crying:
     
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    Yeah I just ignore all "Buffs please" and "Heal Me" requests. If your lucky I'll ignore you, if not I'll just say "no".

    Every other job always wants a buffer or healer, but you don't see any chanter asking for a DPS or a Tank. Chanters don't need them, that's why. A well played, and well geared chanter can stand head to head with a glad, ranger, or sin. I've beat MANY of each.

    Let's be honest, this server lacks PVE, so it's not like there's much grouping needed. I don't run DP. I don't group when I go asmo killing, I don't need the headache. I do much better solo, and I can heal myself. You want buffs, or heals because your screwing off dueling someone and too lazy to rest for a minute? Roll chanter. Don't want to hear that, jump on your chanter and become my personal buff and heal bish for my glad and ranger, and I will return the favor. Fair is fair right?

    I will say one final thing. I have a Ranger, a Temp, and a Glad, all pimped out. I've never once asked a chanter or cleric for buffs or heals, because it's f**king rude. I suppose it takes playing the chanter class to appreciate the bull crap that they receive. Asking for 100+ "buffs" and "heals" per hour from various people is not acceptable. If I buff or heal you, 50+ others are going to expect the same, so no one gets either. I offer an equal opportunity "no" to all requests. It's only fair.

    When in a group, when I feel like grouping, then, and only then will I take on a chanters roll of buffs and backup heal, but by my own choice. That's just me, others may enjoy catering to others, but that's not me. I value my time when I log in, and that is not catering to numerous others.
     
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    That's another reason why I left the illu, whenever someone died, it was my fault. Fortunately I left.. Anyways, I make sure to tell the group I'm PvPing with that I don't heal really. I find myself fighting more than anything else including buffing/healing. If one of my friends is nearly dead, then I'll jump around and heal them, maybe even use Divine curtain.
    We only have like three decent heals that work on other people. One of them takes forever and your member could be dead before it was even used on them. The other is slightly fast and heals for 1.2k and the last one heals for like 900 every 2 sec for like 6secs.
     
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    Same thing here,in dp when ppl died im to be blamed-_-
     
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