[Guide] Assassin when the Stigma System comes out.

Lakhane · Sep 4, 2010

deathpenalty92 said: ↑

its also good to add some extra accuracy, because accuracy helps the attack go through block and parry. i think its good to have JUST a little more accuracy than usual sins do. plus try not to go past the hard cap for crit. seems like to me its half effective when u pass the crit hard cap. :sick:
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Not really. You have oath of accuracy for one and I tested a full accuracy set once (about 3900 with oath) and it never went through a templar's block and he had only 2600.

DeadlyKillerx · Sep 4, 2010

how much crit should a assassin have :3?

anderpr · Sep 11, 2010

GM fix Stigma system is unbalance

juris3 · Sep 20, 2010

how about chanter guide pretty pls?

Starkk · Sep 29, 2010

u need god ping for this combo work good without any skill off!

janiphs · Sep 29, 2010

is stigma important in this server???

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Lakhane said: ↑

Assassins

[Manastones]

Assassins have a much better survivability rate than rangers, therefore they don't really need HP socketed, and due to the fact that sins have a total of 5 magical resist skills and 1 physical resist skill, socketing magic resist is rather, useless.

Assassins do not dps just by spamming rune carves and other skills, assassins depend on weaving (adding normal attacks in between) to get the extra dps off. This also helps tremendously when taking a gladiator, templar, cleric, or chanter down.

The one and only build, for all sins, is to stack attack.

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Weaving

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcQ8Y-jzWNY

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Stigmas

*Sins don't have great stigmas, so there is no point in mixing it up, most sins use the hybrid build, but the dash and slash build is well known for group ganking.

[Dash And Slash Build] - This build is mostly used when in ariel combat (pvp)

-8 Slots-
[Normal Stigmas]

Apply Deadly Poison

Deadly Abandon

Aethertwisting

Blinding Burst

Oath of Accuracy

[Advanced Stigmas]

Apply Lethal Venom

Lightning Slash

Dash and Slash

[Hybrid] - Going rifting or any place during free fly \ duels, this is the more optimal stigma build.

-8 Slots-
[Normal Stigmas]

Deadly Abandon

Flurry

Aethertwisting

Blinding Burst/Sigil Strike (Rune carve and sigil strike do not require you to stand still while attacking, so it's a great stigma when carving and moving at the same time.

Oath of Accuracy

[Advanced Stigmas]

Ambush (Normal stigmas can be placed in advanced slots)

Shadow Walk

Throw Shuriken

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As a sin, you want to stay as productive as you can and keep changing your rotation by looking at the situation and making a decision. No sin has a set rotation, it's all about planning your move beforehand and breaking it all down by looking at the situation.

Here's an example of a stuck-lock rotation that I would think of when dueling a chanter.

Preduel

Deadly Abandon -> Apply Deadly Poison -> Flurry -> Clear Focus -> Focused Evasion -> Hide 2

Ambush -> Suprise Attack -> Weave -> Rune Carve -> Weave -> Sigil Strike -> Weave -> Binding Rune -> Throw Shuriken -> Weave -> Weakening Blow (Make sure their back is facing towards you) -> Weave -> Fang Strike -> Crashing Wind Strike -> Pain Rune -> Weave -> Swift Edge -> Weave -> Soul Slash -> Weave -> Rune Slash

(They should be dead before this rotation even ends)
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[Gladiators]
Gladiators are a pain because it takes longer to burst them down. If you're planning on soloing a glad in real pvp, don't bother unless they do not have Unwavering Devotion up. Try to keep a gladiator stunned while you attack. Pop blinding burst if it's a must and you're about to die. Also, have focused evasion \ aethertwisting up when you think they're going to ankle snare you, because next patch, ankle snare will count as a magical attack like it's supposed to and will be resisted if you have aethertwisting on.

[Templars]
Templars are a must-avoid if it's a 1v1 situation. Just like gladiators, it takes longer to burst down and makes it all harder if they have unwavering devotion on. They're just as hard as gladiators due to their tremendously high block rate (you will get blocked) so it's a good idea to pop oath of accuracy (increases your accuracy and goes through block). Sins aren't meant to take down templars, but if they're low health, or is on the ground without unwavering, it's always challenging trying to take a templar down using sole burst and stun locks.

[Sorcerer]
Sorcerers are all magic-based, so in 1.9, they shouldn't be as hard because you have a total of 5 magic resist spells that WILL work against sleep, root, etc from then on (assassin's resist skills are getting fixed). Sorcerers are an easy kill as an assassin, and you should have definitely NO trouble killing them with one ariel or stun lock as they have VERY low hp and pdef.

[Spiritmaster]
Spiritmasters, just like sorcerers, are magic-based, and in the upcoming 1.9 patch, you will be able to resist fear, body root, and so on like it's intended to. Just keep in mind that they have an INSTA-FEAR skill, so aethertwisting when they see you is a MUST.

[Ranger]
Rangers, like sins, have all-seeing eye. So you need to be aware incase they actually have up. Rangers are low-hp, low-pdef. They're squishy. As long as you get that first initial stun, it should be cake from then. But do remember, they do have sleep arrow so aethertwisting will help. Not only that, they also have their own focused evasion, so be aware that if they see you, your first initial stun might not get on.

[Sin]
Most sins start off a fight by popping focused evasion. The best way to get through this is by using low-damage useless skills such as rune knife from a relatively safe distance to get that focused evasion off. Afterwards, you can pop your stun (unless they have aethertwisting) and be able to get them in that stun-lock.

[Cleric]
Clerics are relatively easy to get as long as you get your initial stun off, but keep in mind that they have a root just like a sorcerer, so be careful and keep your aethertwisting up. Not only that, clerics have insta-heals as well, so when fighting against one, it's best to either get them stun locked and carve a couple runes to use silence-rune, or to silence them first, then stun them. They also have a long-range skill that can stun you, aethertwisting will also bypass this.

[Chanters]
Chanters are also a very dangerous stun-lock class. As long as you can focused evade the initial stun (inescapable judgment) or get your first stun off, chanters should be no problem. Do keep in mind that chanters can also heal so silencing them will help in most cases. Chanters also have protection skills that dramatically increases their physical defense, so it's best not to attack them while they have them up, they also have a low cool-down charge time, so it's best to attack and get your stun off right before the protection ends.

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Hopefully this guide has helped you and that you become a better sin.
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if dont have a good ping u cant do weave that easy

zeunkeong · Oct 29, 2010

lakhane could you tell me Whats the best crit cap for sin pls?

Lakhane · Oct 30, 2010

u dont need crit since u guys have clear focus. worry about attack.

natasha · Dec 9, 2010

i hope i will perfectly control my assassin this is helpful. thank you

Georgie · Dec 9, 2010

Lakhane said: ↑

Assassins

[Manastones]

Assassins have a much better survivability rate than rangers, therefore they don't really need HP socketed, and due to the fact that sins have a total of 5 magical resist skills and 1 physical resist skill, socketing magic resist is rather, useless.

Assassins do not dps just by spamming rune carves and other skills, assassins depend on weaving (adding normal attacks in between) to get the extra dps off. This also helps tremendously when taking a gladiator, templar, cleric, or chanter down.

The one and only build, for all sins, is to stack attack.

----------------------------------------------------
Weaving

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcQ8Y-jzWNY

----------------------------------------------------
Stigmas

*Sins don't have great stigmas, so there is no point in mixing it up, most sins use the hybrid build, but the dash and slash build is well known for group ganking.

[Dash And Slash Build] - This build is mostly used when in ariel combat (pvp)

-8 Slots-
[Normal Stigmas]

Apply Deadly Poison

Deadly Abandon

Aethertwisting

Blinding Burst

Oath of Accuracy

[Advanced Stigmas]

Apply Lethal Venom

Lightning Slash

Dash and Slash

[Hybrid] - Going rifting or any place during free fly \ duels, this is the more optimal stigma build.

-8 Slots-
[Normal Stigmas]

Deadly Abandon

Flurry

Aethertwisting

Blinding Burst/Sigil Strike (Rune carve and sigil strike do not require you to stand still while attacking, so it's a great stigma when carving and moving at the same time.

Oath of Accuracy

[Advanced Stigmas]

Ambush (Normal stigmas can be placed in advanced slots)

Shadow Walk

Throw Shuriken

---------------------------------------------------------------
As a sin, you want to stay as productive as you can and keep changing your rotation by looking at the situation and making a decision. No sin has a set rotation, it's all about planning your move beforehand and breaking it all down by looking at the situation.

Here's an example of a stuck-lock rotation that I would think of when dueling a chanter.

Preduel

Deadly Abandon -> Apply Deadly Poison -> Flurry -> Clear Focus -> Focused Evasion -> Hide 2

Ambush -> Suprise Attack -> Weave -> Rune Carve -> Weave -> Sigil Strike -> Weave -> Binding Rune -> Throw Shuriken -> Weave -> Weakening Blow (Make sure their back is facing towards you) -> Weave -> Fang Strike -> Crashing Wind Strike -> Pain Rune -> Weave -> Swift Edge -> Weave -> Soul Slash -> Weave -> Rune Slash

(They should be dead before this rotation even ends)
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Great Guide. But you should've said that if you have +500 ping you better not go in PVP (1v1) cuz ur skills are not gonna work, and if you get a ppls that has 10-100 ping YOUR ****ED

Vaugn · Dec 9, 2010

this is old >_>

Georgie · Dec 9, 2010

just saying.

If your were talking with me ...

Vaugn · Dec 9, 2010

Lakhane need to update this stuff since it's already 2.1 and we have 11 stigma slots available.

ico0524 · Dec 28, 2010

how about equipments? you have any advice?

Bakulaw · Dec 28, 2010

FUll Abyss Set , since its more on PVP

The Ablazed · Dec 29, 2010

I have a sin pvp vid out. My rotations are pretty much the same on my retail sin.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S85Clze9Gas

george3009 · Jan 28, 2011

What weapons are the best to use with a Sin? Sword/Sword Sword/Dagger or Dagger/Dagger ?

Elvary · Feb 16, 2011

noob questioninched:

what is the mean of weave / weaving ??? inched:inched:inched:

Dralais · Feb 16, 2011

For a sin atack speed is some, if not THE most, important thing since it can out DPS single targets better than pratically everyone (in the long term...). So dagger/dagger when you're early untill you can arrange weapons that have atack speed bonus, then you can go with dagger/sword (better DPS in the long run because of speed+crit advantage of dagger on the main hand + dmg bonus from secondary) or sword/sword(better DPS in the short term).

Weave is when a sin can appear to 'gost' hit an opponent while atacking it. Its just an optical mistake since it is the normal atacks going tru while you're using skills. To wave you just have to get good at timing you skill while doing normal atacks on your foe. Go to youtube to see some vids on it.

Cloudnine · Feb 16, 2011

Lakhane said: ↑

Assassins

[Manastones]

Assassins have a much better survivability rate than rangers, therefore they don't really need HP socketed, and due to the fact that sins have a total of 5 magical resist skills and 1 physical resist skill, socketing magic resist is rather, useless.

Assassins do not dps just by spamming rune carves and other skills, assassins depend on weaving (adding normal attacks in between) to get the extra dps off. This also helps tremendously when taking a gladiator, templar, cleric, or chanter down.

The one and only build, for all sins, is to stack attack.

----------------------------------------------------
Weaving

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcQ8Y-jzWNY

----------------------------------------------------
Stigmas

*Sins don't have great stigmas, so there is no point in mixing it up, most sins use the hybrid build, but the dash and slash build is well known for group ganking.

[Dash And Slash Build] - This build is mostly used when in ariel combat (pvp)

-8 Slots-
[Normal Stigmas]

Apply Deadly Poison

Deadly Abandon

Aethertwisting

Blinding Burst

Oath of Accuracy

[Advanced Stigmas]

Apply Lethal Venom

Lightning Slash

Dash and Slash

[Hybrid] - Going rifting or any place during free fly \ duels, this is the more optimal stigma build.

-8 Slots-
[Normal Stigmas]

Deadly Abandon

Flurry

Aethertwisting

Blinding Burst/Sigil Strike (Rune carve and sigil strike do not require you to stand still while attacking, so it's a great stigma when carving and moving at the same time.

Oath of Accuracy

[Advanced Stigmas]

Ambush (Normal stigmas can be placed in advanced slots)

Shadow Walk

Throw Shuriken

---------------------------------------------------------------
As a sin, you want to stay as productive as you can and keep changing your rotation by looking at the situation and making a decision. No sin has a set rotation, it's all about planning your move beforehand and breaking it all down by looking at the situation.

Here's an example of a stuck-lock rotation that I would think of when dueling a chanter.

Preduel

Deadly Abandon -> Apply Deadly Poison -> Flurry -> Clear Focus -> Focused Evasion -> Hide 2

Ambush -> Suprise Attack -> Weave -> Rune Carve -> Weave -> Sigil Strike -> Weave -> Binding Rune -> Throw Shuriken -> Weave -> Weakening Blow (Make sure their back is facing towards you) -> Weave -> Fang Strike -> Crashing Wind Strike -> Pain Rune -> Weave -> Swift Edge -> Weave -> Soul Slash -> Weave -> Rune Slash

(They should be dead before this rotation even ends)
---------------------------------------------------------------

[Gladiators]
Gladiators are a pain because it takes longer to burst them down. If you're planning on soloing a glad in real pvp, don't bother unless they do not have Unwavering Devotion up. Try to keep a gladiator stunned while you attack. Pop blinding burst if it's a must and you're about to die. Also, have focused evasion \ aethertwisting up when you think they're going to ankle snare you, because next patch, ankle snare will count as a magical attack like it's supposed to and will be resisted if you have aethertwisting on.

[Templars]
Templars are a must-avoid if it's a 1v1 situation. Just like gladiators, it takes longer to burst down and makes it all harder if they have unwavering devotion on. They're just as hard as gladiators due to their tremendously high block rate (you will get blocked) so it's a good idea to pop oath of accuracy (increases your accuracy and goes through block). Sins aren't meant to take down templars, but if they're low health, or is on the ground without unwavering, it's always challenging trying to take a templar down using sole burst and stun locks.

[Sorcerer]
Sorcerers are all magic-based, so in 1.9, they shouldn't be as hard because you have a total of 5 magic resist spells that WILL work against sleep, root, etc from then on (assassin's resist skills are getting fixed). Sorcerers are an easy kill as an assassin, and you should have definitely NO trouble killing them with one ariel or stun lock as they have VERY low hp and pdef.

[Spiritmaster]
Spiritmasters, just like sorcerers, are magic-based, and in the upcoming 1.9 patch, you will be able to resist fear, body root, and so on like it's intended to. Just keep in mind that they have an INSTA-FEAR skill, so aethertwisting when they see you is a MUST.

[Ranger]
Rangers, like sins, have all-seeing eye. So you need to be aware incase they actually have up. Rangers are low-hp, low-pdef. They're squishy. As long as you get that first initial stun, it should be cake from then. But do remember, they do have sleep arrow so aethertwisting will help. Not only that, they also have their own focused evasion, so be aware that if they see you, your first initial stun might not get on.

[Sin]
Most sins start off a fight by popping focused evasion. The best way to get through this is by using low-damage useless skills such as rune knife from a relatively safe distance to get that focused evasion off. Afterwards, you can pop your stun (unless they have aethertwisting) and be able to get them in that stun-lock.

[Cleric]
Clerics are relatively easy to get as long as you get your initial stun off, but keep in mind that they have a root just like a sorcerer, so be careful and keep your aethertwisting up. Not only that, clerics have insta-heals as well, so when fighting against one, it's best to either get them stun locked and carve a couple runes to use silence-rune, or to silence them first, then stun them. They also have a long-range skill that can stun you, aethertwisting will also bypass this.

[Chanters]
Chanters are also a very dangerous stun-lock class. As long as you can focused evade the initial stun (inescapable judgment) or get your first stun off, chanters should be no problem. Do keep in mind that chanters can also heal so silencing them will help in most cases. Chanters also have protection skills that dramatically increases their physical defense, so it's best not to attack them while they have them up, they also have a low cool-down charge time, so it's best to attack and get your stun off right before the protection ends.

----------------------------------------------
Hopefully this guide has helped you and that you become a better sin.
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good job mate...this will help others...

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