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Magical aether wrong rate!

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  1. Dagda02111

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    I hope you can check it! and fix it:S


    http://www.aiondatabase.com/item/152000914/brilliant-magical-aether#gathered-from
    (check this page) I don’t believe our rates (of succeeding) are lower than a regular lower rate server!

    I put something similar in a previous post!

    Now I’ll explain why the rates of getting it are wrong!

    Magical aether (450) has
    Magical aether 62.7Percent
    Greater Magical Aether 30Percent
    Pure Magical Aether 5.5Percent
    Brilliant Magical Aether 0.8Percent
    Essence of Wind 1Percent

    If you Add all of this percent you will get 100percent

    First Magical aether ---- There is 6.27/10 (divided in 10 to simplify), and if you divide that in 2 to simplify you’ll get 3.135/5
    So there is 3 and a little bit more out of 5 times to get Magical aether right!
    62.7/100 (magical aether)
    Second- Greater Magical Aether ---- There is 30Percent that means 30/100 right? Divided in 10=3/10 and divided in 3= 1/3.3
    30/100 (Greater)
    Third- Pure Magical aether ----5.5Percent = 5.5/100 right? Divide 100/5.5 = 18.18 Means 1/18.8
    5.5/100 (pure)
    Forth- Brilliant Magical Aether ---- 0.8 Percent = 0.8/100… divide 100/0.8 = 125 Means 1/125
    0.8/100 (Brilliant)
    Fifth- Essence of Wind ---- 1Percent = 1/100… divide 100/1 = 100 means 1/100
    1/100 (wind)
    62.7
    30
    5.5
    0.8
    1
    _____
    100

    Ok now Magical aether, there is 3 and a little bit more out of 5 times to succeed getting this aether! Means there is 2 of 5 times of missing succeeding right!
    Greater Magical Aether, there is 1 out of 3 times of getting 1, remember there is 2 out of 5 time missing getting a regular magical aether.
    Pure magical, only 1 out of 18.18 times in succeeding
    Brilliant Magical Aether, only 1/125
    Essence of wind 1/100 times
    Some people says is not accumulative! Well percentage work that way. That means that in 100 gathering of magical aether you must get 62.7 magical aether, 30 greater magical aether, 5.5 pure magical aether, 0.8 brilliant magical aether and 1 essence of wind!
    That’s how it work

    Even if people say is not accumulative then they really need to start study how percentage work!

    I’ll put a simple example
    Let say there is 99Percentage of getting magical aether and there is only 1percentage of getting a brilliant magical aether… then 99percentage of the time you will get a regular magical aether and there is only one possibility out of 100 to get the brilliant magical aether!
    I guess people don’t realize the symbol of percentage (I don’t put it because this forum is bug or something and appear a weird sign) means /100 out of 100 example 1Percentage 1/100 that’s the probability of getting 1 out of 100

    I really hope GM master check this out and fix it.
    Now I’ll put why I think is not working
    So far I gather (considering I already make like 500 greater crit scrolls, means I’ve use lot of magical aether, and means I’ve gather lot more)
    Magical aether = 850
    Greater Magical aether = 94
    Pure Magical aether = 22
    Brilliant Magical aether = 3
    Essence of wind = 25 (check this one 1Percentage and I gather like 1500 times (approximately) so I should have 15 and there is only 0.2More than a brilliant magical aether and still only got 3!!!
    So the succeeding rate is really low and is not working

    I got afraid when I see some guy offering 10,000 of brilliant magical aether, if the succeed rate is right he must get 1 out of 125 times of gathering, then if we multiply 10,000 X 125 is = 1,250,000 time gathering, and just if the succeed rate is right, but is not, then he probably gather a lot more time to get that!
    I don’t know if is a bug or something but 10,000 Brilliant magical aether is just ridiculous!!
    How much time do u need to gather over 10,000 brilliant magical aether? Gather more t han 1,250,000 times????

    I hope u check it!

    And remember! It supposed to be a high rate server! And still a ridiculous percent of succeeding!! If only the succeed rate works then I shouldn’t have such a lower succeeding getting brilliants!

    Take care all!


    By the way, I gathered a regular aether and their rate seems to be working even if has the same succeeding rate of a Magical aether, I’ve got 11 brilliants aether and gather over 1200 times!

    That’s why I think the Magical aether is not working!


    Thanks for your time!
     
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    :S please "Master" GM, Fix it :O
     
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    Yeah, magical aether harvest rate kinda low and this is suppose to be high rate server. And this will be tough 4 crafters like me. Btw, those guys who hav 10k brilliant M. aethers, they either spend freaking looooong time harvesting or they bought alot when material npc was still around.
     
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    I didnt think about that :O you are right!

    But then is kind unfair I mean 10k Brilliant Magical Aether!!! come on!!!!!!!
     
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    I belive Gms are really busy, I mean I tried to speak with two GMs in game and they doesn't even say hi... may be they were leveling... xD

    Nah I'm sure they didn't reed my massage :p

    Anyway I hope the Main GM check this post after the new actualization, and fix it:)
     
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    Moving this post up!
    I hope some GM read it!
     
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    GMs I really hope you check this:S
     
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    I agree with this, I stated my extraction idea because its a high rate server, however I agree 100% that such a percentage should be implemented, atm, I just recently did a 600+ drenite run and I've only gotten 4 brilliants to show for that, which is absolute nonsense.
     
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    NO GM AM response yet??? :S:S:S

    Please take your time! to do so! :S
     
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    im to lazy to read everything cya
     
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    bumppppppppppppppppp :O
     
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    uppppppppppppppppppppppp :S omg!!!!!!
     
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    I GUESS they just dont want to answer!!!!!!!!!

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    OMG!!!!!!!! GMs read this at least tell me what do you think is better than being ignored!!
     
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    your a nub and dont understand drop systems just cuz u harvest 100 does not mean u will end up with 1 brilliant it is chance there is a chance that you could get it on your first one there is a chance that u could never get one there is a chance that in 1,000,000 harvests you dont get one its like gambling just cuz it says 1/50 win doesnt mean that if you get 50 aether u are going to get one.... it also doesnt mean that you will only get one bud the rates are right you just have to get lucky thats all there is to it take me for example ive harvested 2k magical ive gotten 18 brilliant and 5 wind thingys so im saying luck was on my side
     
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    WTF hahahahahah!!!!!!!

    Do you really understand how percentage work!!!!!! OMG I guess I'm rounded of ignorant people!!!!

    Do you honestly read all my thread?

    I guess you are being noob!!! damm I can't believe there is such a fool people who doesn't even understand how it actually work!!!

    I was a GM in a different game, we know how the percentage rate of succes work!!!

    Seriously I can't believe people don't or can't realize how it work!!!


    Luck doesn't exist.... that why they put percentage fool...

    I just can't believe it.....................................................................
     
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    It's true that there is almost impossible to get it at your first attempt, because Brilliant Magical aether has 08Percent of succeed that means 1/125 in simply words means 1 out of 125 attempts, if you gather 125 times you must find 1 of this aether cause thats how it supposed to work...

    99percentage of getting magical aether (For example) and only 1percentage of getting brilliant magical aether (Example too) (Just to make it easy to understand)

    If I gather a magical aether is more likely that I get the magical aether because is 99/100 times, then i keep going and after a while I'll get that brilliant, it could be sooner or later but always close to the 100 times (in this case)

    If you have 10 little balls in your pocket and all of them are blue instead of one which is red, how many time you must put your hand in your pocket to get the little red ball, you will need 1/10 times, in that way you'll probably get all 9 balls before the red ball, may be you get it faster or it takes you a little longer, but still is close to the rate prognosticated.

    But what if I tell you, "you have 9 blue balls and 1 red" but you have 50 blue balls and only one red, it will take much longer...

    Thats exactly whats happening, they say it has 0.8 succeed rate, but apparently it rate is much lower!!!


    AND REMEMBER

    IS a HIGH RATE SERVER not a regular one!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
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