I hope last conversation about stigmy system!

After all this talk about stigma, some of the staff can tell us if and when it will be implemented on Siel?
At least so we know that death must die

 

Idk why most players think chanters and cleric su-k.
If you see really weak chant or cleric that dosnt mean that all are bad.
I saw really weak gladiators but I dont think all glad are bad.
And of course nobody dont like chanter because they are rarely noted in game. And a lot of that rarely chanters are noobs and dont know how to play with chanter so everybody thinks they are really weak.
Abbout:
Cleric can heal himself in middle of duel so he can resist until his players dont come.
And because it when he is 1 on 1 he can heal himself and try not use mp a lot
and w8 enemy lose his mp ,then he can strike.
And everybody wants at least 1 Cleric in group when they go to bigger battles.
Chanters can do same,but chanters for me are better in 1 on 1 then Cleric
because they have 2 spells for healing themself over 3000hp,one what regenerate 800hp every 2 sec,
and cooldown of all these is just 10 s so he can use continuously regenerate himself.
then if he lose his mp he have spell for regenerate about 1700 mp
he have power for rising his def by 2000 for 30 s , they have 2 shields what block, reduce attack and heal them for 15 sec
if they doge they can rise def for another 500. And attack is not so bad like some said.
1. They have power what can hit 1400 damage,few powers what hit 600-1000 damage.
2. soceres are very weak on them because they have power to hit and stun enemy from 25 m for 4 s
and cooldown is fast so socerer can not cast his spells (and socerers have low def)
I know spells for Chanter because I played with chanter a lot. Be live me you need be really skilled with
keys,one hand need to combinate up to 10 skills! because there is lot of chain skills and other attack slills.
and one hand need to clicking on healing skills (you need to heal a lot) If you dont do it right you lose
Only thing what destroyed them is stigma sys. because all that powers for healing and all strong attacks are advanced.
And without that powers they can not help group,they can not kill -attack is realy realy weak. They can not heal enough
themself .They are fatality destroyed,before I could defeat another lv 55 warrior in battle but now I can not defeat
strong lvl 50 warrior lol.
My conclusion about chant and cleric is:
Dont play with canther you will lose your time ,if you want make him equal with other -it is very difficult and long road.
Cleric are good,they still have strong healing skills.

If somebody wants to "repair" something what I just write he can,I would like to read and improve my thinking about the Chanter

 

It's pretty much a fact that Gladiators were being nerfed with the all-stigma system in place. 90% of advanced stigmas for gladiators are horrible for pvp. The duel wield line makes you stand still to use the chain, and SPC, PC, and SS all have cast time. LOL. Useless skills.

The classes effected the most are Sorcs, clerics, chanters. Followed by Templars. If you think glads are strong now, wait till you lose all your stigmas and run into a glad that knows how to work the 11 stigma system .

Then again, a lot of fail gladiators are running around on this server using non-extendable weapons in pvp..... so I think people will be alright, even after change.

 

SM is the best after stigma, cuz all the important/working (keke) skills are packed up in a single tree. I mean, the only think SM chooses is what to take from the non-stigma-tree stigmas.

Edit: Tell me, did I lose something?


I can tell. I'll miss only my Cloaking Word and Cyclone Servant. The rest is almost.. useless.

 

maybe you have to stop using your weak stigma skills and you will be fine after the stigma system is implemented. i can kill everything with 11 stigmas with my chanter ( i dont use skills like Healing Conduit cuz it sucks).

 

but whats going on with the stigma shards ? THEY SAID that we can buy em... what about this ? first they put it in credit store now they r deleted could any1 of u GMs read my thread ALREADY ? ...

 

the party healing, the 3k healing, the self healing, mp regen... all of those are stigmas..
And Hit mantra and invincible mantra are stigma as well...
The fact is, with the stigma system, you CANT find a build that hav both dmg skills and healing skills.. hav to sacrifice one.... And thats why chanter sucks...Sucks because chanter impossible to kill anyone without healing: weakest dmg, not hav high def like templar, only heals that helps them survive...
Edit: still hav 3 shields, but the 2k def shield is stigma, and others i dont remember, but the 5k dmg block has long cd, the 40% reduc dmg is only 10s, and doesnt help much....

 

Ya,I dont play with chanter any more and I wrote things what I remember, so better chanters can write more precisely about powers.
I just wanted to say that chanters are not so bad in pvp like most players think.And that I think they suffered the worst with stigma sys. But of course they can be strong,just need to have right stigmas like every other class.

 

True,Chanters have too much stigmas,and they can not put all important skills in just 11 places. But when I played with chanter I tried to organize how to put just 11 stigmas and that he dot lose a much healing,attack and that stuffs.
I will try to find paper where I wrote that...

 

how about implementing stigma system and remove the success percentage for last skill for chains o_o (i forgot how was it called,dont hate)
Would make chanters a bit more better

 

Ok I found the paper,all my ideas from this paper I put in this topic this topic lol.

 

Yes, that suck,now is easier to buy/find stigma skill then stigma shard :annoyed:

 

is there a stigma tree on siel now????