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why can't trade abg stuff

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by SUGERGIRL, Feb 6, 2011.

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  1. Smartik1

    Smartik1 Walking F.A.Q. Forum Legend

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    no im not blonde :p

    yes i do see your point and no i do not agree. there r enough complaints around that this is becoming a donator only server and guess what u r trying to do, make it even more so

    think the website alone makes it pretty clear that some items can't be traded unless u have VIP. and yes its quite obvious that the best armor set in the game belongs to that category. in any case it seems apparent that items sold on the website shop r quite likely to be untradeable unless u have VIP
     
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    He is right, you need VIP to trade items now.
     
  3. maxoorada

    maxoorada New Member

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    i have something to ask u did u donated already a hundred dollars??. maybe that is easy for u to talk like that cause maybe ur not a donator...u can donate and tell me what u've got by donating and believe me all stuff u can buy and all laws ingame will still the same nothings change..and all uve got there is useless cause ur not improving on game only the game is improving so tell me now.so tell me now is this wrong to have a donator atleast a little bit consideration?..what do u think..just a little bit i mean..is this really hard to forgive??. maybe for those not who can't understand the others..maybe a little sellfishness in game...
     
  4. Smartik1

    Smartik1 Walking F.A.Q. Forum Legend

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    please use google language tools...its hard to understand what your point is like this

    donating is not supposed to give u major benefits because it would become a pay to play server which is not what they intend here. donations r merely a way of keeping the server alive so everybody can play

    nobody forced u to donate to begin with. u got ur ABG for it to get ur advantage over others, u dont deserve further special treatment
     
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  5. SUGERGIRL

    SUGERGIRL Proficient Forum Legend

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    i know hun this is my point and people do not understand it one bit
     
  6. Smartik1

    Smartik1 Walking F.A.Q. Forum Legend

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    u just contradicted urself...

    the whole time u said u want to be treated better than other people because u donated but now u say u dont?

    can u say what ur really asking in ur native language? ill translate it, will make more sense i think
     
  7. SUGERGIRL

    SUGERGIRL Proficient Forum Legend

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    i was not talking to you plz leave me alone
     
  8. Aegis

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    Honestly it is a pain for everyone that we need to pay credits very similar to a subscription-based fee... it is almost ingenious that Carl did that honestly. Hooks in so many players it isn't even funny.


    There is, however, a nearly 0% chance that Carl would ever remove the current system in-place. It brings in heaploads of cash everyday (no doubt there).


    So... you have two options:

    #1: Vote up the points on the vote part of the main website (Here: http://www.gamezaion.com/index.php?page=vote)

    #2: Donate a TINY bit more in comparison to your massive 400 pounds donation previous.


    Because I really doubt that Carl would change it. But that is assuming he even does look at this thread, he seems quite inactive especially these days (always has been pretty distant) and no one else has the power to change that.

    So it is honestly, and I'm not trying to be a negative-nancy or a ***** or anything, a hopeless cause to try and petition for this change...


    Carl = only one that truly decides how the cash-shop works and Carl is very much not-here and Carl would, even if he saw this thread, not approve of it....

    I'm sorry =\
     
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    ok tell me now what will be the proper treatment that we have can u tell me?.yah i have all the stuff in the game by donating but other player that not a donator are also having that item..so tell me what is the donating porpuse to get advantage on others or to be same in other that did'nt donate...im not the only one who's not complaining about this believe me i have 9 freinds also donated and were asking ourselves like a fool what do we really have?..i think nothing, yah that's the whole truth nothing?.....all player can have that stuff but the donator that asking for a little help can't forgive whatta?...:\..
     
  10. Smartik1

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    @Aegis finally. its not gonna change just coz she wants it to. yes its bringing him money so no he wont remove it

    in any case its still affordable as by voting u make more than twice the requirement for VIP every month so by voting alone u can be a VIP permanently. so its not as unfair as u all make it seem since u get boosted AP/drop rates at the same time that many people enjoy the benefits of besides being able to trade
     
  11. SUGERGIRL

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    to be s8 i think i will leave gamezaion if this the way people talk to u b/c were i come from recpect we recpect each and nothing get sorted out
     
  12. Smartik1

    Smartik1 Walking F.A.Q. Forum Legend

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    donating = get the best gear without putting ANY work into it. thats what u paid for. its not supposed to make u so overpowered that non donators cant compete

    ive seen enough games die out because donators became gods who couldnt be killed by non donators (and nearly insta killed any non donator)

    donations should never kill the game balance as much as ud like it to

    if u expect everybody to bow down at ur feet and thank you just because u donated then u r dead wrong
     
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    i just solved my problem..

    go quit the game and log in again..
     
  14. Aegis

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    Then maybe you should leave to be honest... if you think we're all abrasive and cruel (Which I never intended to be, nor am I being now honestly) then it would be honestly in your best interest that you reclaimed the money you donated through whatever means you did donate (as it is a large sum of money) and then leave to another server.


    Carl isn't going to change the entire shop for donators... he reels in both large-scale donators AND minor-scale donators through that method... and honestly if you did donate that much then 1.5k credits should seem very small and trivial to you.


    In the end though if you think my post wasn't respectful to you, then that is your own issue. I thought it'd be fair, after being here for almost a year now, to let you know the reality of the situation. I was only trying to help, guess I wasted my time. Sorry.
     
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    no u didn;t understand me all i asking is a little help not that power that have to be given, did u got me sir not a power but a little bit help, thats all we need a treatment that a donator should be have not a power that ur talking.
     
  16. SUGERGIRL

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    i am not ask to be overpower other people i just think that donted should get v.i.p status
     
  17. Aegis

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    Donators, like your post, honestly don't understand the sheer gravity of the situation of how others got their gear.

    #1: They were given it by friends who donated (Thus in the end they "donated" via another friend).

    #2: They, like me, worked their butt off in-game to make donators EXCESSIVE amounts of pots/scrolls/food, rare remodels, etc... in order to trade an ASTOUNDING amount of time and effort to them for a single 2k credits.

    #3: They worked the market, doing #2 until getting a piece of gear and then trading it back and forth and back and forth until they got the gear.


    #4: They voted. You can try and do it yourself too.... it is 10 credits a vote X 5 votes maximum EVERY 12 HOURS.

    So that means 100 credits a day MAXIMUM (if you vote without fail).

    So that is 20 days to get 2k credits = one single piece of gear (if you vote WITHOUT missing even once!)

    That would be 100 days for 10k credits (a set of ARMOR). So can you time yourself for 200 times every 12 hours without mising it once? 100 days can QUICKLY stretch to 150 +


    I personally employed all those methods to get my gear.

    So non-donators getting those gears? Trust me, they've worked 1000x harder than you for the gear. Donating is IMMENSELY kind on time... it is instant gears instantly that you can pvp with and you don't need to deal with the scum on the planet for a trade that is blatantly obviously good for them.

    So that comment sort of irked me, its the typical comment from those who do not know. Donators already have HUGE advantages over others.

    So please don't say that non-donators that got their gears didn't earn them. Without non-donators the server would actually probably implode on itself.



    Aside from that Carl isn't going to offer more services, mostly because he doesn't need too. Carl actually hasn't even listened to suggestions that would even get him more money. So the chances of him listening to a suggestion about him losing money(overall)? He would NEVER accept.

    I've already outlined the two ways to get VIP credits very clearly...


    If you want VIP status from donating a lot? Thats what VIP forum status is. PM a moderator and see how that works, cause I honestly wouldn't. But VIP status in-game is bought like a subscription-based fee.


    Aside from that I'm out of here. People who donated got nothing, rofl. I'll rofl about taht for a LONNNG time.
     
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    Sugergirl unfortunately VIP /Donating doesn't work like that you donate to get the best items ingame before anyone else does,VIP is a luxury if you want it you gotta pay extra for the services regardless to whether you have already donated $10 -$1000.

    This may sound a little harse but thats life everything comes at a small price these days.
     
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    LOL ^^ you must apply it man VIP users ^^ this is server is fair ^^
     
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    i think something has to be done by a donator and the not that's all we want to share...let them feel what donating is for not only for a game but also for the people who donated money just to play..who is the fool that will donate that kind of money just to play i think that's not a nice idea i donate cause all i want is too enjoy not the power that smartik tell's about he's definetely wrong...make a little consideration for those people who giving money let them feel it back to them so they can say they also appreciatte by a game not this kind of treatmet..that's all i want sir..make sense on what i've said..
     
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