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Critical Strike attribute

Discussion in 'Old Threads' started by Bhakti, Mar 10, 2011.

  1. Asanka

    Asanka ~watching over you~

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    possible if old bugs work (and i'm sure they're) ^^.
     
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    maskedbr Legendary Member

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    u mean the atk glish?? sorry but thats a real effect of dagger/sword or sword/dagger (u cant use it with dagger/dagger or sword/sword)

    and i was an assassin with sword/dagger so i used to have 583 with full atk build...

    so even with the atk "glish" working that pretty impossible

    he is wearing dagger/sword so it does not make a abuser
     
  3. HEX

    HEX Legendary Member

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    lol he have 2 swords lmao ..... i know that for sure .... i'm 100% sure about that
     
  4. maskedbr

    maskedbr Legendary Member

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    he used to be sword/sword... since im a gamez player im talking about hes last video and it was dagger/sword
     
  5. HEX

    HEX Legendary Member

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    wat last vid?????

    on a vid i sow that he is full abg and he have 690 attk and 615 cryt (with scrools ) !!!!!! so i dun know - i guess that must be normal .... or not !!!!
     
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  6. maskedbr

    maskedbr Legendary Member

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    that one

    [video=youtube;3WlLnVlDWjA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WlLnVlDWjA[/video]
     
  7. ghxii

    ghxii Proficient

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    lol yure macherato .... the other one its a man or a girl?

    on topic: which video? t.t

    edit: ohh i see
     
  8. maskedbr

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    its a girl =)
     
  9. HEX

    HEX Legendary Member

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    i think the only one who can answer u about those is ablazed (resonance) ... u should talk with him .. about those
     
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    ghxii Proficient

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    its from brazil too?
     
  11. Bhakti

    Bhakti Banned

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    The reason this eluded me for so long is I been using a Greatsword instead of spear...
    But then i saw Reso advocating Daggers over swords...it sounded so awkward but then again reso has been pwning

    Basicly the best endgame fighter weapons are the ones with low crit and higher whatever else because of the cap (u can easily reach the cap with accessories)
    However since crystal allows u to easilly reach 600(with a scroll that s 720) that s almost every hit is a crit...Reso changed to glad (Masquerede) because glad has imba chain skills which r easy to trigger
    This is by NO MEANS CHEATING it s actually good play by him it s just he is taking advantage of a wrong rule

    This has to be fixed in order to have a meaningful pvp system
     
  12. The Ablazed

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    I have 650/690 attack and like 450 ish crit. Not home atm to check. With scrolls and food im at 620 ish. I always use attack with s/s. And in my vid with dagger I have 2 crit +15s in my weapon.
     
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    The Ablazed Banned

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    Daggers are for accuracy against leathers dodge and chain/plate parry and block. I switched to glad because in this update they're op. And I use polearn(I have 486 crit no food/scrolls rest is attack) because the high end damage is better than the steady damage of a greatsword.
     
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  14. Bhakti

    Bhakti Banned

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    Ofc without the cap at crit strike the polearm is better than the GS...U r able to stack more attack5
    auto attack doesn t work properly (another arguement against the fastest gs)

    Seriously the steady and faster GS is missjudged...wrongly considered as a templar weapon(which is either sword or hammer)
    Maybe not so good in mass pvp but u can always change...afterall glad excels with all weapons
     
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    nah - all the strongest glads are using a poleam !!!! The diference betwen a poleam and a gs is huge !!!! GS for glad sux b-cuz the diference betwen the attk speed isn't huge -the gs is a very slow attk weap as the poleam ... but the attk and crytical adds of poleam is huge !!!! Aswell how much time u are using a courage scrool ... the attk speed betwen a gs and a poleam it dosent exist !!!
     
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    Hex u r really out of ur fields in melee dps so stop saying things u don t know...
    For ur education....

    GS score in accuracy attack spead and consistant dmg
    PA score in Crit,no of strikes and "gamble dmg"

    if u equalize with manastones (add acc27 and crit17) to both weapons they do about equal dmg the extra strike of the PA is balanced by GS attack spead which gives almost 1 extra auto atack per 3 seconds and in long fights the steady Gs scores a little better than PA

    On retail in most european serversthey favour the PA but Coreans like the GS especially beyond 1.9

    so who is right?

    Well Unfortunatelly for PA users there is a catch...
    U see crit strike gets 2 caps one at 440 and oeat 600

    Without elite gear what u want is to grab a PA and get to the softcap fast
    However with elite accessories u can reach that cap with little efford from manastones
    So basicly what s happening is the extra crit of the PA is getting devoured by the cap of 440

    It s as i said in my post the PA is exellant shock weapon for mass pvp. Ideally u have a polearm in hand rush to enemies aoe and then swich to a Gs to continue the rest of the fight...That way ur initial attack might cause a great impact if u score a high hit. But when the real fight begins it s attack speed and accuracy that matter


    How about CA?
    In CA the Cap at 440 doesn t exist so the natural disadvantage of the PA becomes really an advantage


    I forgot to mention when u compare two things make sure the terms are equal. With courage PA is as fast as GS true but the GS with courage becomeseven faster as well!!!
     
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    bro the poleam is best for glad !!!!!! And i know a lot about males !!!!! The Gladiator dun't need more acc lmao wtf ...... wat u need is cryt and more attk !!!!!!
    And trust me a glad with gs in equal gear can't stand beiond a gladiator with a poleam !!!! Also in all things ...

    -PS - on crystal it's realy dun worth to use gs .....
     
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    i m using...Gs are more sexy...
     
  19. HEX

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    ;) - maybe .... ;)
     
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    Actually you forgot an important issue about weapons, which is configuration with skills. Let's talk about this by comparing masta PA and masta GS:

    http://www.aiondatabase.com/itemcompare#101300668;100900698;

    Like you can see, PA makes a considerable higher max damage than GS and its Crit is higher tha GS one but with a lack of accuracy.
    And if consider GS, there is a considerable higher min damage and accuracy, with a lack of crit.
    That means if you are looking for a personal skill combo based mostly on high damage skills then PA is the best choice of couse, but what comes against evasion/block/parry players? If you don't get a way to gain much Accuracy (like manastones and so on) then PA becomes the weak point and GS might give the difference, mostly with classes like assassin/ranger.
    And one more thing, normally if you consider same-geared glad and temp fighting each others, templar wins for higher defence/parry/block, and the best way to over-exceed those stats is accuracy.
    So i'd say that, while you have 2 weapon slots avaible on your char, you should consider on using both of them because on retail there is no greater weapon.

    About gladiators actual crits, i remind everyone that Crit calculations of gladiators is atm bugged, i'm working with evilset in order to remake and fix it, so please don't reply by saying that CA glads are good only because of crits.
     

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