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Is this a good idea?

Discussion in 'Old Threads' started by lkd, Jul 25, 2010.

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Do you like the idea of disabling free fly for rifters?

  1. Yes

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  2. No

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  3. Other (post why)

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  1. lkd

    lkd New Member

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    You know what I think would be the most awesome change that would cover a lot of the lowbie/gank issues.

    Make it so that opposing factions can not free fly while rifting. wuahahahah I can hear the QQ now but honestly, I think that'd be one of the most awesome changes. This way rifting and everything can still happen however now when you go rifting you better be prepare to be the underdog. (like you should be while invade someone else's world) Rifting should be a challenge.

    Don't like people flying away before you can kill them? GO TO THE ABYSS!!! That's where the PvP should be happening anyway. Rifters are just bad players trying to pretend like they're Pro-PVPers.

    I wanted to post this in the other thread but it was closed. =(
     
  2. Lucent

    Lucent Ghost in the shell of a former Drama Queen Forum Legend

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    I agreed with this long ago but it would seem there has to be a HUGE discussion in the works to make this change actually occur on Gamez. Good luck :p I might write a novel of my opinions later on xD
     
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    You are a noob ..thats why you suggest this
     
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    miykael Banned

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    in your mind...

    :w00t::lol::lol: LOL :lol::lol::lol::w00t:

    The only thing he had to say. :sick:
    Now he`s a happy camper:whistling:
     
  5. Gift

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    hell yea to this idea. lol fukin noobs always camping in DP when they know others need to go there to lvl up and to get gear.

    aint nothing pro about killing an unarmed man. fukin cowards
     
  6. lkd

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    You don't how true this is. I am VERY carebearish. But that's not the point.

    Even if I was 'pro-elite' it wouldn't change the fact that I'll get face rolled by almost anyone I encounter until I upgrade my gear.

    What chance does a new player still leveling/acquiring gear have against a 55 level, full stigmas up to 50, with +15 gear have? Damn near none. So if you take pleasure in action like this, I'm sorry to say, but you are just as much of a noob as I am then, but in a worst way.

    I don't mind getting killed and being a noob, heck that's how you learn and get better and that's fun to me. I've gone to the abyss countless times when I was in a PVP mood. Shit... I should have just gone to Heiron since there's more PVP action there... and that's sad.
     
  7. ProphetMan

    ProphetMan New Member

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    I think this would be nice, that way rifters have it harder to go killing people who is leveling. Or it could be done only in eltnen and leave heiron as it is being it higher level hence harder.
     
  8. Aegis

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    Disable it please.

    (Forum's automatically turn an entire phrase of cap's into a proper sentence... damn :surprised:!"
     
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    But if opposing faction members cannot fly in enemy territory exactly how are melee classes meant to kill rangers/sorcs/clerics attacking them from above o.o?

    Wut.
     
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    agree with you :D
     
  11. Daisuko

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    My stance has always been that you should merely disable flight while you have your weapon out, and clip wings if you're already flying.

    This enables freefly as a movement convenience but prevents the ability to pvp in the air over in rifting areas.

    And maybe add a timer similar to how Hide doesn't allow you to enter it until you're a certain distance away, etc.
     
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    I like this <3
     
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    I personally find rifting boring when i can just fly everywhere.

    It takes terrain completely out of the equation.

    Finding nice spots while gliding is half the fun.
     
  14. lkd

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    mhmm

    People will think twice about griefing and will promote people to move it to the abyss.

    Although I do really like what Daisuko said, I just didn't think a solution of that magnitude would be done.

    If the idea of rifting being extremely treacherous(like in my first post) is completely out of the question then there are a plethora of more complicated(server wise) ideas.

    Like Daisuko said or enemy factions having greatly decreased flight time(which probably isn't feasible) or a zone effect on enemy factions that drains flight time at an accelerated rate. etc etc etc

    Many solutions for your 'problem' you pointed out. There's always a solution, it doesn't need to come from me(I'm far from the smartest person here), just do a little brain storming in your head and you'll have the answer. Heck, you might even come up with a better one!


    Edit: I had an after thought about this which I wish I would have posted first. It's a comparison really.

    Which is 'better' for a server and community
    -Players (especially new ones) get 'cheaply' killed with no chance of fighting back in the zone that 'belongs' to them
    -Only certain rifting players have to put up with getting 'cheaply' killed with no chance of fighting back in a zone they really aren't suppose to be in(faction wise)

    Obvious answer is neither as they're both flawed but the lesser of the two evils is making the rifters suck it up instead of the people who are trying to enjoy the quests/leveling/gearing/sightseeing/whatever the f they're doing out there. Rifters have a choice of rifting, players don't have a choice. Brus/Theo isn't a real option, not when the level range/quests/campaigns/mobs/bosses/drops etc from the other places aren't there.
     
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  15. Aegis

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    If you want honesty though, the people entering you're territory are already at a disadvantage as it is pretty much the main "hub" of the race(s).

    The only reason I support this is because I know that in the end removing free fly for even one race will result in the removal of it for both.

    And I personally distinctly despise free-fly in it's entierty.. lazy people should just go back to the television and sit on their overinflated rump rather then ruin our fun.
     
  16. lkd

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    @Aegis

    I'm for getting rid of free fly too. Even though it's very nice and all it just breaks too much. However my idea was trying to keep those "t.v." people in mind since a lot of people seem to be against the loss of free fly. ^^
     
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    Yeah, Im all for getting rid of free fly altogether :p I played for a couple days without flying everywhere and to be honest, the graphics and the scenery were actually kind of nice to experience for once. It adds character to the game and it gives it the feel it was aimed to give.
     
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    Lol
    I would prefer town protection :<
    then maybe Telemachus wont need to be respawned every ten minutes and fear of an FP being mobbed will deplete :p
    *waits to get attacked for this opinion* :X

    EDIT: Except Abyss DX
    Mob those FPs... lol...
     
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    Ally Well-Known Member

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    free fly is nice,
    but im thinking it should atleast be disabled in heiron/beluslan.
    like you'll be able to fly in your main city in heiron/beluslan but anywhere else is non-free fly like retail for those map's, ground pvp is fun, i suggest only heiron/beluslan as retail maps because its basicly where 98% of rifting occurs.
     

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